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abe supercro
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yeah buddy
cannadan
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you guys make me laugh.....mopeds....lol had one...even modded the exhaust for extra pony power....
could fill it for 1 buck and drive it all day all week
I still remember esso giving out power player sticker for the big hard cover book....my dad would always make sure we got ours....and gas was pennies a gallon....
could fill it for 1 buck and drive it all day all week
I still remember esso giving out power player sticker for the big hard cover book....my dad would always make sure we got ours....and gas was pennies a gallon....
ttystikk
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So explain how that fast overweight four door sedan STILL smoked the 'vette off the line, through most of the quarter- and only got reeled in at the very end, if at all?
GEARING. The Tesla doesn't have drag racing gears, otherwise the Corvette wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.
On to electric motor reliability; put an electric motor in the same environment as an internal combustion engine and the electric motor will be more reliable. For proof, remember that you said your car cranked over the first time you hit the key, right? That's an ELECTRIC starter motor!
Some people, lol
On to energy storage onboard the vehicle; yes, electricity dissipates over time in battery storage. So if you don't plan to use the vehicle, don't store it with a full charge. Better yet, leave it plugged in so you can use the battery capacity to help the utility smooth out demand, like Denmark does already.
Best way to foul a carburetor is to run old gas through it. I've had my fair share of gas powered cars, sixties muscle and otherwise. I can't wait for my Tesla!
You can even create your own electricity at home which can be directly used in your electric car at incredible savings vs gas- or biofuels either, for that matter.
More food for thought; http://www.cnbc.com/id/102213440
j0yr1d3
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Yeah "some people"...I never said anything about electric starters working in the cold. And again the Tesla never ever beats the Corvette now does it? Off the line, sure, because that has to do with torque, not horsepower. Again electric can't make the horsepower that gas combustion can without adding hundreds of pounds of weight in batteries. Enjoy your over priced Tesla, I'll stick to my trucks.
CalyxCrusher
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Could have also won due to the driver. it's not like the car drives itself ya know. Driver can make all the difference. i get the point you're trying to make but electric cars are very limited in what they offer. Especially once we start talking about cold Canadian climate and batteries holding charges, or salt corrosion wear and tear on them. There's also the limited range as well. That's a BIG factor. The lack of charging stations in Canada, and also the time it takes to charge in comparison to the mileage provided.
And let's not forget the old adage "Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races". My personal favorite for unsuspecting torque monster is this :
738ft/lbs mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
ttystikk
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Except that in one of the three heads up drag races, IT DID... and lost the other two by a combined total of half a second. Not bad for a four door sedan vs a car that gives up a great deal of practicality for its performance.
Electric motors don't fail in the cold, only the batteries.
I'm waiting for a full sized electric truck. It will put any full sized American pick up absolutely to shame.
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ttystikk
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Corrosion is a body issue, independent of power source.Could have also won due to the driver. it's not like the car drives itself ya know. Driver can make all the difference. i get the point you're trying to make but electric cars are very limited in what they offer. Especially once we start talking about cold Canadian climate and batteries holding charges, or salt corrosion wear and tear on them. There's also the limited range as well. That's a BIG factor. The lack of charging stations in Canada, and also the time it takes to charge in comparison to the mileage provided.
And let's not forget the old adage "Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races". My personal favorite for unsuspecting torque monster is this :
738ft/lbs mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Cold weather and batteries is an issue, and I'm interested in how well Tesla style batteries do in extreme weather. On the other hand, a garage is also a good solution.
Tesla has claimed to solve the charging time issue, I'm interested in how it impacts battery life. Time will tell.
There is a cross country 'super charger' network of Tesla charging stations that crosses the United States. Again, that's an infrastructure gripe, not a technological one inherent to the technology. I'm certain Tesla is hard at work on a similar route across Canada.
That Mercedes is a fine car- and it costs half again as much as a new Tesla. And it will not win in the quarter, and certainly not get a holeshot. Why? That big Merc makes all that torque at just one point in its rev range, up around 3800rpm. Electric motors in locomotives, Teslas and your desk fan all develop 100% of their rated torque at zero rpm, making for an off the line experience few internal combustion powered vehicles can match. At any price.
When it's -40 outside its -30 in a Unheated garage. And if your batterie isn't in good condition your car still won't start.
OGEvilgenius
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We get raped for prices on the Island. These oil prices can't be helping Alberta right now.
leaffan
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Can't be helping Canada either...good thing we have retained such a strong manufacturing sector in Southern Ontario.
Flash63
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As long as our dollar remains under the American's...Guelph's unemployment rate remain's among the country's, lowest...mostly minimum wage jobs..
WHATFG
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See that's what I was talking about....I may have to plug the truck in but it's going to start at -45...well maybe cough to life, but it will start.
VIANARCHRIS
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Still around $1.09 here on the Island. Not sure of todays price as the towns under water and the bridges I need to cross to get there are closed! The mayor declared a state of emergency...I think he's just trippin'!
CalyxCrusher
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Down to 95.7 here today
