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curious old fart

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yeah, that's true, i could just insulate a section, I'd like to do a 5x10, but the car get's parked in there and there's some giant windows i'd have to cover. I think I have enough scrap wood to build a frame and the insulation board works well for walls and easy to work with. hmm, i have to draw up a plan sometime, I know i'd have to run a space heater at lights off which would double my electric, that's the only thing that sucks with this tier electric crap, if i add one more appliance my kw cost doubles, it sucksssss
that's the size grow area I have and I divided it in into 2 areas about 5 X 5 each. One side is for bloom with 2 600's and the other side is for veg with a 4 bulb and a 6 bulb T-5 that are stacked.....fortunately my electricity is not tiered.

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GemuGrows

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Iron or sulfer? heat will turn a plant crispy, light intensity can yellow the tops, my plant directly under the hps, just one or two tops is green but way lighter green then the rest and it's from the radiation or something the light gives off, is that plant directly under the light? Is it the whole plant or are other branches ok? I don't think it's gonna kill you're plant whatever it is though, don't freak out too much. Too intense light or iron def. would probably be most likely
The plant is pretty close to the light like I said, but just the top. And only the tops are having the symptoms. I've been making steps towards moving my plants a bit further from the lights though. I've been up and down google and I cant find anything exactly like what I have going on

Also i'll look into sulfur deficiencies
 

AlphaPhase

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i reallllllyyyyyy miss the regular flat rate electric, my bill is $250 now with just 1000w and a few 2 bulb 32w floros, and I haven't even had to run the heat yet, I think I'll be doing all wood stove this winter. I'd be at $400 if I added any more lights, some friends are hitting $800+ a month out here, it's ridiculous!
 

oldman60

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Hey Everybody! here's a look at my ladies right now!

For the vast majority they are looking pretty bomb, but just a few tops (being tops of main colas) are having this yellowing starting on the inside of the leaf. I think its a Magnesium or Iron deficiency, i've been feeding them calmag to try and fix it and it seems to be making SOME difference, but i could be imagining it.

I think it could also be a zinc deficiency, but i can't find any nutes that have zinc at any of my local hydro shops...

I don't have anything to measure my PH, and i'm going to be stuck without it unless you all think i'm completely fucked right now without it.

The plants with the yellowing are between 3 1/2 feet tall and 5'3", so they stretched pretty hard and grew pretty huge, maybe something contributing to the deficiency if that is the problem? (was out of town while vegging)
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^That pic is the best example of the yellowing, that is by far the most extreme case. My temps are pretty reasonable, usually about 79F, but my plants are about 10" from my 600w hps. There is very good air flow over the plants though, I highly doubt its heat stress. Maybe light bleach?

I already took some steps to move my tops a few inches further from the light, as of right this second i cannot raise it more

I'm afraid of nute burns so I never use full strength, should I maybe just give some of these guys a good heap of calmag?

If you look REALLY close you can see the outsides of the leaves are still dark green, but the entire insides are rich yellow. The leaves are not deformed, except for a few but thats from other reasons

Thoughts well appreciated!

(This post isnt about showing off any dankness, purely diagnostic (: )
Are the top of the plants getting dry? if so load up on mag.
They look similar to mine a few grows back and it was mag def.
Use epsom salts @ 1tsp. per gal.
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AlphaPhase

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Could any heat/air guys help me out with something. Can I exhaust my tent into one of the ac/heat vents on the floor? It doesn't run that much, if at all during the day and at night it might run one time. I'm still battling humidity and it would be easier to vent to the ducting on the floor instead of running a 10' duct out of the room. Just tested the tent with the exhaust off and it went to 100% humidity in about 10 minutes.
 

jimmer6577

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Could any heat/air guys help me out with something. Can I exhaust my tent into one of the ac/heat vents on the floor? It doesn't run that much, if at all during the day and at night it might run one time. I'm still battling humidity and it would be easier to vent to the ducting on the floor instead of running a 10' duct out of the room. Just tested the tent with the exhaust off and it went to 100% humidity in about 10 minutes.
Yes you can do that, but it will push the air out other vents unless you close them off or don't care about the heat. It's actually what I set my friend up with recently to supplement his heat in his trailer. He use a wood stove so his heater doesn't run much. It's not going to be that noticeable if divided amongst all the vents in all actuality. So yea your all good. We closed all of his vents off to direct the free heat to his bedroom vent only.
 

AlphaPhase

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I gave it a shot jimmer, but it didn't lower my humidity any more than with just ducting it into the grow room. grr... I've never had to deal with humidity, even my basement in ny was 50% all year round.I can already tell the small 4 pint dehumidifer i just ordered ain't gonna cut it, i'm gonna have to return it before i even get it delivered. Thank god i have a home depot card. Got a 30 pint dehumidifier i can pick up tomorrow and hope i can get the humidity in the 50% range and lower later on in the grow

Giggles, that harlquinn is one of the bests plants for oils, you're going to be very happy with that one
 

giggles26

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I gave it a shot jimmer, but it didn't lower my humidity any more than with just ducting it into the grow room. grr... I've never had to deal with humidity, even my basement in ny was 50% all year round.I can already tell the small 4 pint dehumidifer i just ordered ain't gonna cut it, i'm gonna have to return it before i even get it delivered. Thank god i have a home depot card. Got a 30 pint dehumidifier i can pick up tomorrow and hope i can get the humidity in the 50% range and lower later on in the grow

Giggles, that harlquinn is one of the bests plants for oils, you're going to be very happy with that one
I plan making ice wax from them :)

Oh and to lower humidity change your intake. That's how I adjust mine is with a speed controller on the intake.
 

AlphaPhase

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no doubt, i'll have to get a controller, I've never used one, can i just hook it up to my exhaust fan? My fan only has one speed and it's full blast
 

AlphaPhase

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it's like i'm learning to grow all over again, it's amazing how drastic environments can change from place to place, i had to raise my humidity all summer, was way too low and now it's the complete opposite lol
 

AlphaPhase

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Lol Oh OK, I just use passive intake at the moment bro. Here's another question, I've never had this happen before so no idea what is going on. My tangilope was eating LOTS of food so I was gradually raising the nute levels. After a week I noticed it stopped growing. Checked the ppm level and it was much higher than when I started, so I know it became to high of a nute concentration and it was only drinking water and not taking in the nutes. So I lowered the nutes to a lower concentration and now it's eating them like crazy, went from 650ppm to 600ppm in 8 hrs. But the thing I don't understand is there is not one single sign of over feeding at all. I wouldn't have known unless I checked the ppm level. Ppm went up from 750ppm to 950-1000 because it drank so much water that the nutrients got wicked concentrated. Why didn't anything happen to the plant!? Not even a tip burn, I'm so stumped, do I have a plant that will not be hurt by any level of fertilizer? I'm smoking a little more right now too so sorry if this didn't make sense, but I have no clue, I can't find anything in the forums about it happening
 

jimmer6577

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. Not to mention it's been a few years since I've had a Indica grow. These hybrid sativas are great, :hump:
I have a question for you about the sativas. Don't these add to your anxiety and not being able to sleep? Just curious. I love them but the gf smokes me out of house and home with them trying to get relief.
 

BeastGrow

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it's like i'm learning to grow all over again, it's amazing how drastic environments can change from place to place, i had to raise my humidity all summer, was way too low and now it's the complete opposite lol
fan speed controllers are great for quieting a fan even if they won't lower your humidity. that damprid stuff will help with humidity if you are in a somewhat closed environment
 
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