Kelogg's Patio Plus Organic Soil

[TedeBoy]

Hi eveyone. First post.

After years of not being able to grow I am going to attempt outdoor auto-flowering variety medical cannabis on a balcony. It's legal here in California!

As I gather supplies I am leaning towards the Kelogg's Patio Plus Organic Soil. I want to grow at least six plants at a time (we are allowed 12 total for two of us).

Is this soil pretty much ready to go or should I add perlite or anything else? How long before needing to fertilize? Should I add lime?

Auto-flower strains are smaller I know. How large of containers? Where to get seeds?

There will be more questions for sure...thanks!

 

[vostok]

CAUTION: that Kellogs is rich and rare with canna growers,
by far the majority use Fox Farm Ocean Forest(FFOF)
or even Miracle Grow both
with 20-30% perlite added to dilute that hot effect

in 3-5 usgallon air pots, have no saucer under as canna don't like wet feet
to my 12 week grow
https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/12-week-grow-sceneario-by-jorge-cervantas.30164/​

 

[Nullis]

Never used it but haven't heard anything particularly bad about it... Mandala Seeds lists it as an appropriate (or not to be avoided) soil for their strains. Germinate in a seed starting mix though.

 

[TedeBoy]

Never used it but haven't heard anything particularly bad about it... Mandala Seeds lists it as an appropriate (or not to be avoided) soil for their strains. Germinate in a seed starting mix though.

Since Fox Farms is so popular here and I can get it locally I'll go with it. Any thing I should add to it?

 

[jcdws602]

It works but not the best quality.....it has lots of wood in it.......I amended it with espoma plant tone and added perlite to it.It is cheap so for the price it worked well in a pinch.

 

[Nullis]

Since Fox Farms is so popular here and I can get it locally I'll go with it. Any thing I should add to it?

Dolomitic or calcitic limestone if anything, at about 1 tbsp per gallon of mix. This is more important if you plan to use RO, filtered or rain water. Many sources of tap water actually contain some amount of limestone dissolved in the water already (primarily as bicarbonates). This is the cause of hard water and lime-scale buildup on shower heads, drains, etc.

The only other thing I might recommend is Azomite or some other mineralizer (Ocean Forest has granite dust already though) but it isn't a necessity.

 

[Nullis]

It works but not the best quality.....it has lots of wood in it.......I amended it with espoma plant tone and added perlite to it.It is cheap so for the price it worked well in a pinch.

Good to know. Depending on how cheap it is and how much chunky material is in it, it might be worthwhile to screen it. They sell compost screens, but they can be made easily enough as well with plywood and chicken wire. I do this with bagged commercial compost in some cases (for seedling mixes especially). It really improves the texture and the result is a finer, more consistent and fluffier material.

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

Lot of grows with just kelloge soil. I add nothing but my nutes.

 

[az2000]

I mix 20% Kellogg's Patio Plus with 60% Pro-Mix HO and 20% perlite. Right now I'm doing 25/50/25. I might try 33/33/33 sometime.

If I used Kellogg PP alone, I'd add substantial perlite, perhaps 50%. I ran a ph test and the texture of Kellogg PP seemed heavy. It seemed to compress over time after water/dry cycles. Its ph seemed high. My Pro-Mix out of the bag is around 6.0. Kellogg PP is 7. So, mixing the two gives me a better ph. (That could be accomplished without mixing two together by using hydrated lime or aluminum sulfate, respectively.). I've read others say their Pro-Mix is too high out of the bag. But, mine's too low.