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dustfrmphilly

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what's up guys! Having some trouble with my seedling. Running white cheese auto in coco with FNB with tap water. I'm thinking it could be a deficiency but not 100% sure. I have some cal-mag on the way. This is my first go with hydro grew in soil before. Please help!!
 

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quantumwot

quantumwot

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dustfrmphilly said:
Thanks for your input wasn't exactly sure. I checked my solution when I made it up but it was 500-ish. Calibrated my meter and rechecked solution and it came out to 1100. Flushed them a little while ago thanks again
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they'll struggle to survive being so small ....... I wouldn't waste much time on it.........
it might be quicker planting again ...
its up to u buddy

gooood luck :)
 
Cpappa27

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Itll survive probable. Looks sturdy other than the leaves. Don't feed it anything at all until those little round leaves turn yellow . 2 to 3 weeks. Plain water and it will bounce back. Its too young to have any deficiencies.
 
quantumwot

quantumwot

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Cpappa27 said:
Itll survive probable. Looks sturdy other than the leaves. Don't feed it anything at all until those little round leaves turn yellow . 2 to 3 weeks. Plain water and it will bounce back. Its too young to have any deficiencies.
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friendly bet it dies in a week .;)

there's no leafs for light .
 
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Damn thanks for the encouragement :wink:. I switched out Rez earlier today water and hydroguard for a good flush. Will give it 2 weeks and see what happens. Brand new room and grow style so I'm working on getting dialed in
 
quantumwot

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Were only messing buddy :)

but to be honest you say you'll give it two weeks ......it will be quicker to start again ....just saying .good luck


keep us updated :)
 
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dustfrmphilly

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quantumwot said:
Were only messing buddy :)

but to be honest you say you'll give it two weeks ......it will be quicker to start again ....just saying .good luck


keep us updated :)
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It's just a freebie I got with my order so I'll let it go and see. I have Tijuana grapegod dynamite and ak germin in the bull pen waiting there turn. Thanks for your input and helping me out
 
Ace Yonder

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quantumwot said:
friendly bet it dies in a week .;)

there's no leafs for light .
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I'll take that bet, the leaves are a little worse for ware but they are by no means beyond hope.
quantumwot said:
its allready dead
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It's absolutely not.
quantumwot said:
but to be honest you say you'll give it two weeks ......it will be quicker to start again ....just saying .good luck


keep us updated :)
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Quicker, maybe. But seeds are expensive and not always readily replaceable. No reason to throw out every plant that hits a little hiccup.


OP, it should pull through, I've had seedlings fight through worse and wind up totally fine.
 
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Ace Yonder said:
I'll take that bet, the leaves are a little worse for ware but they are by no means beyond hope.

It's absolutely not.

Quicker, maybe. But seeds are expensive and not always readily replaceable. No reason to throw out every plant that hits a little hiccup.


OP, it should pull through, I've had seedlings fight through worse and wind up totally fine.
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Thank you for the reply and input. It was a free auto tht came with my order. If I can get anything off of it I'll be happy. If it dies so be it. Atleast it was free and a hiccup happened only with this bean.
 
dbdweller

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There could be a few reasons.
1. Tips curling could be lights to close.
2. To hot... the leaves hold moisture on top and breath underneath. When its hot they will release more moisture from the top so it can breath.
3. You said it about the cal meg for coco but someone said it earlier about to young for those issues yet. Your next leaves after the round ones are your true plant. the round ones are produced by the mother for food.
4. Dry.. in coco the water evaporation levels goes up and if you have a ballast next to the pot or heat in anyway it will dry out faster.

Sometimes just a good ph balanced flush and something blocking the direct light (if your at 24/7) for a bit will help too. Keep it at 18/6 for its whole life

These are just a few things to pay attention to. i hope they help

Peace out
 
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dustfrmphilly

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dbdweller said:
There could be a few reasons.
1. Tips curling could be lights to close.
2. To hot... the leaves hold moisture on top and breath underneath. When its hot they will release more moisture from the top so it can breath.
3. You said it about the cal meg for coco but someone said it earlier about to young for those issues yet. Your next leaves after the round ones are your true plant. the round ones are produced by the mother for food.
4. Dry.. in coco the water evaporation levels goes up and if you have a ballast next to the pot or heat in anyway it will dry out faster.

Sometimes just a good ph balanced flush and something blocking the direct light (if your at 24/7) for a bit will help too. Keep it at 18/6 for its whole life

These are just a few things to pay attention to. i hope they help

Peace out
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Thanks for the tips bro. I'm in the northeast so it cold out right now I have a space heater in there keeps it around 72. I'm waiting for a humdifier to come in Bc my rh never goes above 25%. I have the light on 24/7 currently to help keep temp up. The ballast is hung high up away from everything. I had just set up my drip system yesterday feeding for 15 min 2 times in a 24hr period ph'd water with hydroguard
 
dbdweller

dbdweller

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For Veg you want to get Temps up around 75-80 with approx 60- 65% RH. Dropping temps and Rh as you go through the few stages of veg and few stages of flower.
How much water is collecting in that 15min? If there is not a lot then you are starving it. Coco drys very quickly.
Do you know how to do a drain test? You fill it with water and see how fast it goes down. Being in Coco i have always filled it till the drip pan was full. Then i did not water it for a couple of days. The point of coco is it will suck up the water as needed rather then leave the roots in water with no oxygen after time and get root rot. there is more reasons but we are on this one lol
I think i would stick with balanced water and hand fill the pot till it runs out. Take that drain water and test that. This will tell you what you plants is dealing with. Then see how long it takes for that to dry and you can then do the math. I think you might be light.
This will also let you see how much water your pot takes. Then run your drip test and see how much water is really coming out.
 
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dustfrmphilly

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dbdweller said:
For Veg you want to get Temps up around 75-80 with approx 60- 65% RH. Dropping temps and Rh as you go through the few stages of veg and few stages of flower.
How much water is collecting in that 15min? If there is not a lot then you are starving it. Coco drys very quickly.
Do you know how to do a drain test? You fill it with water and see how fast it goes down. Being in Coco i have always filled it till the drip pan was full. Then i did not water it for a couple of days. The point of coco is it will suck up the water as needed rather then leave the roots in water with no oxygen after time and get root rot. there is more reasons but we are on this one lol
I think i would stick with balanced water and hand fill the pot till it runs out. Take that drain water and test that. This will tell you what you plants is dealing with. Then see how long it takes for that to dry and you can then do the math. I think you might be light.
This will also let you see how much water your pot takes. Then run your drip test and see how much water is really coming out.
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Again thank you for the lengthy post of useful info I appreciate it. As I was reading your reply I went Into the room and turned on the pump. 400gph pump feeding 3-1/4" drip lines. After about 5-6 minutes water is pouring out of the bottom. I raised the light 4 inches and will set my timer to 18/6. Rh is @18% currently and 77. I have fan blowing inbetween leaves and bulb. I will do a test and see how much the lines feed in a 15 min period. I'm doing a drop recirculating system. I have them sitting in a f&d tray. Thanks ago I will run the tests and get back to you and see if I can pick ur brain some moremore
 
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dustfrmphilly

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dbdweller said:
For Veg you want to get Temps up around 75-80 with approx 60- 65% RH. Dropping temps and Rh as you go through the few stages of veg and few stages of flower.
How much water is collecting in that 15min? If there is not a lot then you are starving it. Coco drys very quickly.
Do you know how to do a drain test? You fill it with water and see how fast it goes down. Being in Coco i have always filled it till the drip pan was full. Then i did not water it for a couple of days. The point of coco is it will suck up the water as needed rather then leave the roots in water with no oxygen after time and get root rot. there is more reasons but we are on this one lol
I think i would stick with balanced water and hand fill the pot till it runs out. Take that drain water and test that. This will tell you what you plants is dealing with. Then see how long it takes for that to dry and you can then do the math. I think you might be light.
This will also let you see how much water your pot takes. Then run your drip test and see how much water is really coming out.
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forgot to mention I'm using 1/2 pots. Growth is at a standstill for almost 2 weeks in :wall:
 
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