Hey HPA Aeroponic Growers... are you still out there?

[Mad Lab]

My Dark Madder. Grown with HPA Aeroponics.



It's been awhile since there has been any action on the HPA threads. I know there are few of us out there with a dialed true High Pressure Aeroponic system but it's time for a change.

With the legalization in Washington, Colorado, Alaska, Oregon and hopefully Washington D.C., commercial producers are looking for ways to save. Save labor, save time, save energy, save on COG, basically save MONEY.

And for those who have taken the time to read about HPA and for those who have had the privilege and diligence to actually experience true aeroponics, you know with so many benefits prevalent it's hard to understand why every cultivator that likes to progress and doesn't settle for the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy doesn't make their way to HPA.

-Saving up to 90% less water than other mediums
-Saving 50% on nutrient cost. HPA runs at close to half the normal ppm range.
-Less energy used. HPA timers are set for approx. 1 second on, 4-5 minutes off.
-Faster growth. 99% Osmosis. More rapid nutrient uptake.
-No medium. Nothing to throw away besides disposing of root ball into compost or burning.
-Safer. Drain to Waste HPA means little to no chance of harmful bacterias and fungi attacking root base.
-Sterile. One of the only systems truly suggested to run sterile. Less time and money spent on breeding beneficials.
-Less work than Hydro. No dumping a disgusting reservoir every week filled with plant hormones, salt, bacteria and other toxins.
-Approx. 25% faster growth than most Hydro methods.
-Less work than Soil. No trucking in soil or remixing after each cycle.
-Approx. 50% faster growth than soil.





Anyone still out there?

 

[ounevinsmoke]

hey I dont no where the other guys are but im interested in seeing some more of your set up. If you have the time that is...

 

[thump easy]

Yup I only got a few friends go aroe the others in my area are arch enemies were do u grow?

 

[Mad Lab]

I'm currently upgrading my HPA right now, ordering my new parts that were recommended by someone with years of R&D on quality HPA parts.

Pics up soon! Will piece together system with large root chambers (2-3 ft deep).

Really looking at commercial use of high pressure aeroponics in conjunction with nutrient delivery systems with dosatron(automated fertilizer injectors). So as to rid growrooms of multiple water tanks, circulating pumps, airpumps, airstones etc as well as eliminate most of the labor associated with them.

Ran across a company i really like that makes true hpa systems for a larger scale operation.

Check um out

Some will argue over saturation by a milli second or two, but the biggest problem you run into with HPA is getting the center of the plants rootmass misted after the roots have overgrown the chamber(which is likely too small).

I cant dial in a warehouse of nozzle times to get perfect white fuzzy roots 100% of the time. I'll not risk water stress, which is worse. Still getting the same growth and water savings.

 

[thump easy]

Try fogging the moister from fogger will reach

 

[Mad Lab]

Try fogging the moister from fogger will reach

Great advice.

I did this on my last grow and worked great. I probably wouldn't want to have to add foggers to a commercial system to complicate maintenance but for the hobbiest trying to get the legendary root fuzz, absolutely.

 

[thump easy]

I'm working on a commercial aroe grow myself but haven't had any time.. But I will post picks they want me to sighn a secrecy form but what's funny is its all my style not there's ???

 

[Cold$moke]

Hi im interested for sure I see hpa as my next evolution.

Been runnin low press areo and dwc for years ready for something new

edit also I havent tried an undercurrent style setup yet either

 

[Cold$moke]

I'm working on a commercial aroe grow myself but haven't had any time.. But I will post picks they want me to sighn a secrecy form but what's funny is its all my style not there's ???

I would say as long as its your information to share on YOUR method AND , ou dont show anything to indicate a location

then I say you are within your rights. I think

 

[thump easy]

I gotcha

 

[Mad Lab]

Great to have you gentlemen here.

thump, it's get to hear about your project. Anything you are at liberty to share would be greatly appreciated!

 

[squarepush3r]

THe problem with aero, is you could step out for a coffee, and your timer/pump/feed line/power breaks, and you come back to a lost harvest.

I really like it and such but it seems very high risk.

 

[Mad Lab]

THe problem with aero, is you could step out for a coffee, and your timer/pump/feed line/power breaks, and you come back to a lost harvest.

I really like it and such but it seems very high risk.

That's always the first thought but theyre plenty of ways around this.

Pump Failure: Running two seperate nozzle manifolds through each chamber. If one pump goes, the other remains. Also if water is treated correctly before it runs through the pump it is rare for good pumps to fail. Also you can upgrade the size of your accumulator tank that holds your pressurized water. This reduces the amount your pump runs. You can have a pump that runs once a week to charge the accumulator or even longer!

Power Failure: Well in a commercial setting there are back-up generators and for the hobbiest, your supposed to hook up your solenoid and pump timers to a 12v battery with a tickling charger. So no problems there.

What else you got square? HPA guys haven't worried about those issues since the 90's.

 

[Mad Lab]

Your biggest chore is keeping water treated/filtered correctly and keeping nozzles unclogged. But HPA reduces so much labor, you have no problem having to check you nozzles as a part of regular maintenance. And if dialed in, nozzles dont clog much.

 

[TerpeneTom]

Care to divulge visuals of your system, Mad Lab?

ps. Beautiful flowers!

 

[Cold$moke]

I have some ideas about chamber height id like to try when my temporary room is done.

im thinking a tall like 4 ft chamber were the first 6 inches is a recirculating dwc and the mid and top are HPA.

Going crazy without a room up

 

[Atomizer]

THe problem with aero, is you could step out for a coffee, and your timer/pump/feed line/power breaks, and you come back to a lost harvest.

I really like it and such but it seems very high risk.

My outdoor hpa setups run from april thru november 24/7 year after year without anything clogging or failing. If you use the right kit and design, you could step out for a 2 week vacation, not just a coffee

 

[Mad Lab]

My outdoor hpa setups run from april thru november 24/7 year after year without anything clogging or failing. If you use the right kit and design, you could step out for a 2 week vacation, not just a coffee

Atomizer, thanks for stopping in, was hoping you'd pop your head in. HPA threads are always in need of as much support as possible because so many nay-sayers without enough experience speaking out against it, confusing people who may be interested in trying it.

Are you still doing AA?

 

[Mad Lab]

Care to divulge visuals of your system, Mad Lab?

ps. Beautiful flowers!

Hey TT,

I've been super busy and am mostly over on IC. But, soon I will have pictures and links to where I get each part and the importance of each one. Just to help newbies get an idea of how each component works.

I'm still trying to figure out the best way to post pics, lol.

 

[Atomizer]

Atomizer, thanks for stopping in, was hoping you'd pop your head in. HPA threads are always in need of as much support as possible because so many nay-sayers without enough experience speaking out against it, confusing people who may be interested in trying it.

Are you still doing AA?

Still running hpa, aa, ebb/flo and nft.
tbh i stopped by to see if there was anything new and exciting in the aero forum and the answer to that one seems to be a no. There`s a surprise lol

HPA threads dont need support if you`re interested enough in hpa, you`ll build one and get it to work. If you cant get it to work then you did something wrong, figure out what and have another go.
If you cant figure what you did wrong then you`re probably not cut out for hpa. If you cant admit you did something wrong, you`ll likely blame the system and become a naysayer

Note that the above is applicable to any/every other growing method ever devised by man. I cant grow in soil to save my life, i havent launched a campaign against it even though its obviously useless for growing stuff lol