Nuggs 2015 russet mite war
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it's not easy on the hands either.
getawaymountain
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thats great nuggs now ya can do more than before good luck with them bugs at least we don't have to deal with them -- just mountains of snow !!
ttystikk
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I got russet mites really bad a few years back- and because the motherfuckers are so small, I had no clue I was battling an infestation as opposed to a nutrient issue or something- so I was barking up one wrong tree after another until a buddy put a 'scope on a leaf and showed me millions of little cones from hell...
Then I got serious; I found that Avid was the best for them, but that persistence is the key to winning. I don't mean the grower's- you better have plenty already!- I mean the pesticide.
The last page(!) of the Avid label suggests using a horticultural oil to extend its effectiveness- and what do you know, Azamax is a fine horti oil!
KILLER RECIPE
Bottle strength of Avid, warm water (about 100f), a spreader like aloe and 60ml/gal of Azamax and shake like mad before and during application. Apply immediately upon mixing and use it all or toss the rest, it's no good if it sits. Spray THOROUGHLY, remember how well something that fucking small can hide and spray with serious attention to detail.
Do this twice ten days apart and it will summarily deal with damn near anything on the plant's leaves and stems.
Don't do this during bloom. AT ALL. Smoking Azamax is nasty and Avid is worse.
You want the nuclear option, that's it. Works just as well on totally webbed out infestations of spidermites with the same schedule.
Don't be tempted to skip the second application because you will miss some the first time, it's just inevitable.
I did that and that's the last I ever saw of the tiny fucks- and it's been years.
As ever, keep your newly arrived clones the fuck away from the rest of your girls and work with them last, AFTER you've handled your normal grow.
Fuck, I hate those little fucking things.
Now- go Fuck 'em up, bro! Tell 'em I sent my regards as you spray them down!
Fuck!
Then I got serious; I found that Avid was the best for them, but that persistence is the key to winning. I don't mean the grower's- you better have plenty already!- I mean the pesticide.
The last page(!) of the Avid label suggests using a horticultural oil to extend its effectiveness- and what do you know, Azamax is a fine horti oil!
KILLER RECIPE
Bottle strength of Avid, warm water (about 100f), a spreader like aloe and 60ml/gal of Azamax and shake like mad before and during application. Apply immediately upon mixing and use it all or toss the rest, it's no good if it sits. Spray THOROUGHLY, remember how well something that fucking small can hide and spray with serious attention to detail.
Do this twice ten days apart and it will summarily deal with damn near anything on the plant's leaves and stems.
Don't do this during bloom. AT ALL. Smoking Azamax is nasty and Avid is worse.
You want the nuclear option, that's it. Works just as well on totally webbed out infestations of spidermites with the same schedule.
Don't be tempted to skip the second application because you will miss some the first time, it's just inevitable.
I did that and that's the last I ever saw of the tiny fucks- and it's been years.
As ever, keep your newly arrived clones the fuck away from the rest of your girls and work with them last, AFTER you've handled your normal grow.
Fuck, I hate those little fucking things.
Now- go Fuck 'em up, bro! Tell 'em I sent my regards as you spray them down!
Fuck!
ttystikk
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To a point; the Azamax is an oil and it will suffocate them and inhibit movement. The Azamax is an anti feedant, meaning it makes them starve.
Whatever it is about this one-two punch of a cocktail, it works.
Absolutely spray every surface of the plants; base, stems plus top and bottom of every leaf. In short, soak the whole plant so there is nowhere on it that isn't shiny wet.
nuggs
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Adower, I don't think the DE will completely take care of the problem. I do think it will help if applied before I bring in new soil. I've thought about it over night after you posted and if they get as far as the lower 30% of the plant then it's too late to eradicate the bugs. the only thing left is control and I won't fight them like last year. If I get infested again this year I'll chop and burn my crop. It just wasn't worth the fight last year .they got probably 75% of my buds last year and I had to fight everyday for that. Then what I had left was almost all b grade.
I'm going to watch the weather close and spread it at a time when it will sit for a couple weeks without getting wet.
thanks for your in put.
As bad as It sounds. If I got heavy mites I would just trash my run. Not worth all the money put in to get bad results. hope you have a good run this year nuggs!
nuggs
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alright then! this is what I was hoping to find. Someone that has had to fight them and won. I was like you in the beginning. I thought I had thrip and treated it as so. they got out of control early. I did get them somewhat under control toward the end but never did rid of them completely. I was in week one of flower when I found the thrips that were actually hemp russet mites. I have just about every spray on the market in my cabinet . after chopping one plant they started working on the next. I found forbid but sprayed lite cause I was in the 3 week of flower. It slowed them way down but it was to late. I still had live russ in dec on a sativa plant that never finished (sister to the 18fter that never flowered). I had issues with trying unproven genetics last year too.Amersterdam marijuana seeds sent me something that wasn't what I ordered before. picture #31 didn't flower. the smaller plant on #30 was the sister. neither turned out. Thanks for your help on this and you are helping others as well. here in northern California seems like it's getting a lot of outdoor grows.
couple questions to be sure I get it correct .
1) bottle strength on the avid.. means as directions say?
2) you wrote aloe and azamax. did you mean aloe or azamax? I'll for sure be using azamax I have a gallon of that now.
thanks again,
Nuggs
freemandrake
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While there young and still in 1 gallon pots why not try what humboldt does, I read that he will mix up 20 gal of mighty wash, or what ever your using and dip the plant in it...he has no pest problems come flower time. I'm glad we don't have russet mites here, I wouldn't know where to start...
freemandrake
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No way would we have anything that would even put a dent into the infestation, bloody oath he is...he should be able to give you some good info, just trying to help any way I can, I wanna see your big girls flower this year!
ttystikk
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1. That's right. Don't double or anything, just use what it says, like 3ml/gal or so, IIRC.
2. Aloe Vera is a spreader/sticker, aka surfactant. This keeps the solution from beading up and running off the plant's leaves. Use roughly half of whatever the label says.
Azamax is the horticultural oil with a pesticide bonus. On that label, you'll see they suggest 30/60 ml/gal, so use the high number. Use both aloe and Azamax with Avid to make the sauce.
nuggs
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Ok thanks for clarifying. I have a fogger and a pump sprayer. I get better coverage with the fogger so that's what I plan to use.
ttystikk
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If the oily Azamax doesn't clog it up, it will be fine.