Thrips

[green_machine_two9er]

I believe I have a early thrip infestation. Luckily only on one of my mothe plants seperated from everything else is affected.
I plan to foliar with neem oil. 1 t. / quart. And .5t plain dish soap.
Any othe TLO friends ways to eradicate these little fuckers. I also ordered some Nematodes jus cause I could. But they won't be here till next week sometime.

Ideas? Should I use the neem or is that pointless? nematoads? if so how to apply predators to my soil?? Or any other options. I of course don't want any pesticides.

If all fails I will just toss the plant. And soil.

I can grab some pics a as soon as possible

Leaves have small discolered areas. I saw one translucent bug with 40x scope. Was fast as fuck. Once it was gone I could not find again. And I looked for like 30 minutes while having short freak out.
Looked almost like a head louse
As alway thanks in advance.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Looks worse than earlier today!! I need to do something quick. help!

 

[warble]

I simmer some habeneros and filter the water and spray as a preventative. I saw a bug flying around and I sprayed it. It kills on contact. I have humidified w/ it too. It is a pain to clean up. I would recommend spraying your grow room, plants, equipment and the top of your soil and every three days after until you have it under control, then weekly after that.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

I simmer some habeneros and filter the water and spray as a preventative. I saw a bug flying around and I sprayed it. It kills on contact. I have humidified w/ it too. It is a pain to clean up. I would recommend spraying your grow room, plants, equipment and the top of your soil and every three days after until you have it under control, then weekly after that.

Habeneros. Wow. How many would you use. And simmer for how long? And could I make a batch and store to use or make fresh each application? Thanks.
Any thoughts on the neem? I have some diluted just wait in for lights to click off ?

 

[TWS]

neem will help. spinosad will kill them.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

neem will help. spinosad will kill them.

This stuff looks promising. Just ordered some captain jacks 252. I would love to kill the buggers. I woul spray soil of course. Does it kill microbial life? I would hope not to wipe out my beneficials in this process.

 

[TWS]

Thrips lay eggs on the leafs. nematodes won't help that much . If they are thrips just spray a couple of times 3-4 days apart. done deal .

 

[warble]

Habeneros. Wow. How many would you use. And simmer for how long? And could I make a batch and store to use or make fresh each application? Thanks.
Any thoughts on the neem? I have some diluted just wait in for lights to click off ?

I use about a dozen. I simmer for twenty minutes. I have done enough for two batches, but it smells really bad after a week. If you put it in the fridge, it won't smell so bad. Since I do it once a week, I only make enough for one treatment. I've used neem oil. It makes my leaves very shiny. Other then that, I cannot say if it protects or even deters anything. Stay vigilant.

 

[DonTesla]

Habeneros. Wow. How many would you use. And simmer for how long? And could I make a batch and store to use or make fresh each application? Thanks.
Any thoughts on the neem? I have some diluted just wait in for lights to click off ?

I believe I have a early thrip infestation

*The active ingredient is the Capsaicin mon, you can get it from almost any hot pepper.. The most concentrated part is seeds or veins not so much in flesh- careful inhaling!!

*neem spray, try use less soap and less oil too. It's very strong. 1 drop per 100 ml I use now with no soap. Still works. Shake well before each plant. Unless you have organic soap then I would use 1 drop per 500 ml..

*thrips really really like blue and yellow. They thrive at 26-28 celsius. The bite marks and eggs are on leaf surfaces. Larvae hatch, turn to pupae then fall to soil to feed and grow. A few wks later a female can lay hundreds of eggs...

*** Diatomaceous earth rocks are naturally sharp (under a scope) and composed of slow release elements- imo it is the best pest mulch by far. More defensive than companion crop yet still slows evap and provides rare nutrition, like Si. Works for gnats too, they hate it.

Good luck!

*Other bio weapons include beauvaria bassiana fungus, your bene nematodes, minute pirate bugs, and predatory mites (amblyseius cucumeris)

*But another plant based one is the Pyrethrum flower, also good for fungus gnats, aphids, AND spider mites. GREAT VALUE.

I like to go with plant defence before animal defence personally, as well as something that has multiple uses.

All for protecting mothers,
Don T

 

[nuggs]

Green machine, good idea for you to read my thread in this outdoor section. Nuggs 2015russet mite war. there's a video on page 68 . watch it and see if it's the same looking insect you have. If it is you'll want to get right on it. get back to me if you need help. Nuggs

 

[DonTesla]

neem will help. spinosad will kill them.

Neem will render whatever thrips contacted useless, and sterile, while not harming other life.. Just bad pests.

Here is a pic of them as well as their damage..

 

[Dr Green Fang]

I use Azamax. Apply once, then 9 days later apply again.

 

[nuggs]

thrip and russet mites look about the same. you can't see a russet mite without a 40 power scope. you can see a thrip without one if you have good eyesight.

 

[DonTesla]

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Neem will render whatever thrips contacted useless, and sterile, while not harming other life.. Just bad pests.

Here is a pic of them as well as their damage..

The ones in this pic are teenagers.
Mature adults are darker and leap like grasshoppers

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Thanks al for all the great responses.

I foliared with the neem. Seemed to slow progress. I plan to use spinosid once it arrives.
Lowered humidity to 30%
Turned off heat source temp got down to about 65.


Don tesla. The diatomaceous earth sounds promising. I woul use in place of my bark mulch? Or underneath my top mulch layer ?
Could a paper plate be fitting to cover soil to interrupt their life cycle. Like catch the eggs or larva falling into soil?

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[green_machine_two9er]

Pic update. Not much change.

 

[DonTesla]

Thanks al for all the great responses.

I foliared with the neem. Seemed to slow progress. I plan to use spinosid once it arrives.
Lowered humidity to 30%
Turned off heat source temp got down to about 65.


Don tesla. The diatomaceous earth sounds promising. I woul use in place of my bark mulch? Or underneath my top mulch layer ?
Could a paper plate be fitting to cover soil to interrupt their life cycle. Like catch the eggs or larva falling into soil?

.

Good idea, a plate will block em til you get diatomaceous earth rocks.
I would skip the bark mulch once you upgrade, gnats love their not so rough, shadowy caves. The earth rock is too sharp a surface for comfort.

 

[Metasynth]

I second Spinosad...Spray, then spray again a couple weeks later, and once more a week after that...Bingo...No More Thrips.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Good idea, a plate will block em til you get diatomaceous earth rocks.
I would skip the bark mulch once you upgrade, gnats love their not so rough, shadowy caves. The earth rock is too sharp a surface for comfort.

How thick would you layerthe DE. A couple inches opt what? Thanks. I'm hopeing gone depot has some. Otherwise just gotta order and waitL

 

[st0wandgrow]

How thick would you layerthe DE. A couple inches opt what? Thanks. I'm hopeing gone depot has some. Otherwise just gotta order and waitL

I'm not sure that you have thrips. Do you see a bunch of little black specks all a round the blemishes on the leaves? That would be their shit, and it's a tell tale sign of thrips. The blemishes from them will look almost silver under your lights.