UncleBuck
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the 18th century called, they want their feudalism back.
Try to envision a stronger economic system.
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the 18th century called, they want their feudalism back.
abandonconflict
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Actually that's Marxism. His premise is flawed because he doesn't realize that labor creates all wealth and ownership is parasitic, but aside from that, he is describing dictatorship of the proletariat.
NLXSK1
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Why are people making this so complicated?
Capitalism - You own the products of your labor.
Communism - You give away the products of your labor in hopes of getting something in return.
Marxism - You labor under the state in hopes of getting something in return.
With capitalism - You get to keep what you make... Any other system is simply re-distribution of the work of the individual. It is logic...
So, the most free form of commerce is capitalism. Other forms are parasitic.
Capitalism - You own the products of your labor.
Communism - You give away the products of your labor in hopes of getting something in return.
Marxism - You labor under the state in hopes of getting something in return.
With capitalism - You get to keep what you make... Any other system is simply re-distribution of the work of the individual. It is logic...
So, the most free form of commerce is capitalism. Other forms are parasitic.
abandonconflict
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no you don't, you get an hourly wage and your employer keeps what you make
londonfog
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what is it you do for a living again ?
NLXSK1
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You get the wage you agree upon. Or you start your own company and make 100% of what you earn minus expenses and the huge chunk the government demands.
Why are you whining? you get a check every month... Be fucking grateful for once.
NLXSK1
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I do a number of things. Currently I work as a home inspector and also I run a home watch business.
abandonconflict
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no, you get the wage offered or you look for some other drudgery you'll hate just as much because you'll starve if you don't. or you start a company and exploit workers the same way
NLXSK1
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Your experience has not been my experience.
You get offered a competitive wage for the job and the region of the country or you look elsewhere. You are not being forced to take one particular job. Why do you cry so much about work when you dont do any?
abandonconflict
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this is a good tactic for you, by even acknowledging that you say this, i have to contend with it, instead i just throw jabs of my own, except i'm funnier than you and then UB jumps in since he also delights in toying with the guy from a mehtlab town who wakes up before dawn everyday to get attention from he and I
but how many guys did you service yesterday for $20 a pop?
Ineffective.
Padawanbater2
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Capitalism insists you produce more than you earn, if you didn't capitalism wouldn't work
It's an economic form of exploitation, ie. slavery
Take a look around this country the last hundred years and see how successful unregulated capitalism has been..
It's like you're still rooting for the fighter face down on the canvas
Pay particular attention to the 4th word in my previous post, then we can both delete these last two posts. OK?Capitalism isn't "regulated"?
NLXSK1
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Again you mistake corporatism for capitalism.
Capitalism means you keep what you earn. If that is a salary, so be it, if it is another form of compensation such as goods and/or services, so be it.
What economic form do you produce less than you earn?? I believe that is called bankruptcy...
That's not directed at you, dude.
Padawanbater2
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If you kept what you earned your employer wouldn't get anything to run the business
If wages equalled production, they would be near $20/hour
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