Try to envision a stronger economic system.

abandonconflict

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the 18th century called, they want their feudalism back.
Actually that's Marxism. His premise is flawed because he doesn't realize that labor creates all wealth and ownership is parasitic, but aside from that, he is describing dictatorship of the proletariat.
 

NLXSK1

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Why are people making this so complicated?

Capitalism - You own the products of your labor.

Communism - You give away the products of your labor in hopes of getting something in return.

Marxism - You labor under the state in hopes of getting something in return.

With capitalism - You get to keep what you make... Any other system is simply re-distribution of the work of the individual. It is logic...

So, the most free form of commerce is capitalism. Other forms are parasitic.
 

londonfog

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Why are people making this so complicated?

Capitalism - You own the products of your labor.

Communism - You give away the products of your labor in hopes of getting something in return.

Marxism - You labor under the state in hopes of getting something in return.

With capitalism - You get to keep what you make... Any other system is simply re-distribution of the work of the individual. It is logic...

So, the most free form of commerce is capitalism. Other forms are parasitic.
what is it you do for a living again ?
 

NLXSK1

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no you don't, you get an hourly wage and your employer keeps what you make
You get the wage you agree upon. Or you start your own company and make 100% of what you earn minus expenses and the huge chunk the government demands.

Why are you whining? you get a check every month... Be fucking grateful for once.
 

abandonconflict

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You get the wage you agree upon. Or you start your own company and make 100% of what you earn
no, you get the wage offered or you look for some other drudgery you'll hate just as much because you'll starve if you don't. or you start a company and exploit workers the same way
 

NLXSK1

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no, you get the wage offered or you look for some other drudgery you'll hate just as much because you'll starve if you don't. or you start a company and exploit workers the same way
Your experience has not been my experience.

You get offered a competitive wage for the job and the region of the country or you look elsewhere. You are not being forced to take one particular job. Why do you cry so much about work when you dont do any?
 

abandonconflict

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Why do you cry so much about work when you dont do any?
this is a good tactic for you, by even acknowledging that you say this, i have to contend with it, instead i just throw jabs of my own, except i'm funnier than you and then UB jumps in since he also delights in toying with the guy from a mehtlab town who wakes up before dawn everyday to get attention from he and I

but how many guys did you service yesterday for $20 a pop?
 

NLXSK1

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Yesterday and today I am completing the support walls on the 2nd floor so I can install the beam to repair the roof. Nothing serviced by my own hobby's and games.
 

Padawanbater2

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Why are people making this so complicated?

Capitalism - You own the products of your labor.

Communism - You give away the products of your labor in hopes of getting something in return.

Marxism - You labor under the state in hopes of getting something in return.

With capitalism - You get to keep what you make... Any other system is simply re-distribution of the work of the individual. It is logic...

So, the most free form of commerce is capitalism. Other forms are parasitic.
Capitalism insists you produce more than you earn, if you didn't capitalism wouldn't work

It's an economic form of exploitation, ie. slavery

Take a look around this country the last hundred years and see how successful unregulated capitalism has been..

It's like you're still rooting for the fighter face down on the canvas
 

NLXSK1

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Capitalism insists you produce more than you earn, if you didn't capitalism wouldn't work

It's an economic form of exploitation, ie. slavery

Take a look around this country the last hundred years and see how successful unregulated capitalism has been..

It's like you're still rooting for the fighter face down on the canvas

Again you mistake corporatism for capitalism.

Capitalism means you keep what you earn. If that is a salary, so be it, if it is another form of compensation such as goods and/or services, so be it.

What economic form do you produce less than you earn?? I believe that is called bankruptcy...
 

Padawanbater2

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Again you mistake corporatism for capitalism.

Capitalism means you keep what you earn. If that is a salary, so be it, if it is another form of compensation such as goods and/or services, so be it.

What economic form do you produce less than you earn?? I believe that is called bankruptcy...
If you kept what you earned your employer wouldn't get anything to run the business

If wages equalled production, they would be near $20/hour




 

NoDrama

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Capitalism is all about Capital.

Too bad some of these people have given themselves the power to create this "capital" from thin air. Those are the ones that bend every economic structure to their will.
 
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