Aero Cloning but No Roots...?!

cannakis

cannakis

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i Have the clone king and have it about 12-18" from 3 - 23w cfls (had 4 but just took out 1 thinking it to be the problem...) and just rain water, it has been about 5 days... No roots so far. Keep waiting? Too much light? Nutrients? because they are looking like they may want some Nutrients...
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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Trick is the stems need to be getting wet. Do NOT dome them. Use chlorinated tap water. Change it every 5-6 days. Thats it. They work.

You cant have your water temps getting too high though. Diabolical is right about that. Cloners on the floor usually stay cool enough even in a warmish room/tent.
 
cannakis

cannakis

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Yeah i need to check and make sure my water temperature is alright... how high is Too high? and thanks AlphaPhase i hope you are right! oh and dia, they don't look sick they are just looking a little lighter green in the new growth areas...
 
cannakis

cannakis

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warble said:
What is your water temp and ph? What is your ambient temp and RH? You should be around 70° w/ a ph near 5.7, 75° canopy temp rh of 70%. Have fun.
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I Need to get a barometer or whatever measure humidity... my pH is just straight rain water but it's like 7.3-7.6... i Will had some Apple Cider Vinegar and lower it... my Temperature in canopy is probably more like 80 degrees... thanks for the help i will let you know what the water temperature is.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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No problem - Also roots take longer if water temps are low. Check the stems and make sure there's no slime or mushy stems- if all is fine you have nothing to worry about. I use tap water like someguy mentioned.. No dome. And I just change the water once after my clones are finished. To be safe, I use pool shock (chlorine) to kill anything that might grow in there. The lighter green growth is normal, no nutes needed unless you want to add 1/5 strength bloom nutes (some people do, I don't), water temps about 75 is perfect but I let mine get to about 80 because I use chlorine
 
midnitetoak

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Constant operation of the pump will increase the temp of your water. If you get a CAP ART recycle timer you can set it to go off less frequent & keep the water cool & allow a bit more air to get to them which will make them root faster. Also helps to take nice long clones that hang down a few inches below the plug or neoprene inserts what have you. I had same issues but this was the key for me. A healthy clone will root in 5 days or so in my aerocloner if I use root tone & set my timer to 1 min on 5 mins off -hope that helps
 
mo841

mo841

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ive had it take from 6 - 14 days so far. I run mine for an hour, every 4 hours. straight tap water works fine, a lil bit of nutes never hurt either in my case. just wait it out, the magic will happen
 
cannakis

cannakis

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midnitetoak said:
Constant operation of the pump will increase the temp of your water. If you get a CAP ART recycle timer you can set it to go off less frequent & keep the water cool & allow a bit more air to get to them which will make them root faster. Also helps to take nice long clones that hang down a few inches below the plug or neoprene inserts what have you. I had same issues but this was the key for me. A healthy clone will root in 5 days or so in my aerocloner if I use root tone & set my timer to 1 min on 5 mins off -hope that helps
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mo841 said:
ive had it take from 6 - 14 days so far. I run mine for an hour, every 4 hours. straight tap water works fine, a lil bit of nutes never hurt either in my case. just wait it out, the magic will happen
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Thanks so much.! I definitely will be putting a timer to it! Should it be minute intervals or hour? Or half hour? Because I have it running all day and night! My water temperature is 86F. Of course I left off pump and i killed most of the cuttings. Got new ones going... Thanks so much for the advice everyone. ... also I Did lower my pH to 5.6 or so and it made a world of difference, just a capful of access in 5 gallons.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Right on, glad you're on the right track to cloning now. I may have to adjust my ph to see if it does make cloning a little quicker. I'm getting 100% roots in 5ish days with 7.9ph and 82 degrees at the moment, would be great to get roots a day or two less :)
 
mo841

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a timer that goes in half hours is fine. on every 3 or 4 hours for an hr at a time seems to be adequate. might b able to get away with just a half hour. Just play around with it untill ur satisfied.
 
cannakis

cannakis

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mo841 said:
a timer that goes in half hours is fine. on every 3 or 4 hours for an hr at a time seems to be adequate. might b able to get away with just a half hour. Just play around with it untill ur satisfied.
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I Am afraid that would be too long of a dry period...? I like the 1 minute on 3 minutes off or maybe 1/2hr on 1 1/2hr off? If you can guarantee they won't die at 1hr - 3 hr then I will do it... Or maybe 1hr - 2hr...?
AlphaPhase said:
Right on, glad you're on the right track to cloning now. I may have to adjust my ph to see if it does make cloning a little quicker. I'm getting 100% roots in 5ish days with 7.9ph and 82 degrees at the moment, would be great to get roots a day or two less :)
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damn that is exactly what I want! I wouldn't change anything! I hope the timer is the trick...
 
cannakis

cannakis

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mo841 said:
this is my timer and i havent had any die yet
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Question... If I do not have the tray filled will that matter? I have the 36 clone king but right now and only plan for a while to use 6 - 18 slots... Will this matter?
 
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