Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Midwest Weedist
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Could they have found an escape route?
hyroot
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nope. They're in Rubbermaid totes in a walk in closet.
Midwest Weedist
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Damn =/ That's a bummer. It always sucks to lose a worm bin.
st0wandgrow
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I had that happen to one of my bins. The fuckers just up and vanished. The only thing I did differently that time was I used different bedding because I was out of coco coir/shredded brown paper, so I used some old peat based soil and composted cow manure. I did some head scratching and started looking on line and came to the conclusion that the cow manure *may* have come from a farm where they used de-worming medication on the cows and the manure wasn't composted long enough to neutralize it.
hyroot
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I threw in some peat based recycled soil and coco and leaves for bedding. Harvested the bin. Threw back any uncomposted material into the bin and added coco, dried canna leaves and already washed trim (hash). Then added some pureed romaine lettuce a week later and coffee grounds. But all the worms vanished in both bins. I noticed 3 days ago. I added some more veggie scraps. Checked last night to see if the worms came out from hiding to feed. No worms. Scraps already composted.
st0wandgrow
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Huh. That's crazy.
greasemonkeymann
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that's a lot of new "greens" to break down, canna leaves, hash trim.... and the pureed lettuce? maybe it got a lil warm.. thermo-compost started and cooked em a lil?
You also said you harvested them, did you tumble it? or use some kind of strainer? maybe you microscopically damaged their skin and they died?
That's weird though. Go through your differences what did you do differently this time than usual.
Temps in your area? Course you said it was inside...
Were the leaves for the bedding from a know safe source? Not from a roadside or something... I would guess since their bodies are so simple that even a lil pesticide or engine oil/coolant/hydraulic fluid/ etc, etc, etc, all that would probably kill them all off.
Was the hash tumble processed or chemical? Kinda knowing you I assume it wasn't chemicals..
And the fact that they literally kinda melt when they die too. Makes it hard to see what the hell happened..
Hmm..
That really sucks though, not knowing what you did wrong.
AllDayToker
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Whats up organic crew, so I'm kind of in a situation I could use some help with.
It's winter, and my house is drier then hell. I have a harvest coming any day now, and my usual drying area, as well as everywhere else in the house, is way to dry and don't want my buds drying to quick. I tried adding humidity to the room but it only went up a few % with my small humidifier.
Is there some sort of method I could use, maybe a box of some sorts, or possible paper bags, to dry my buds before I cure.
I typically don't hang dry, I have drying racks I use.
Right now the drying room I usually work in is 60F and around 30-35% humidity.
It's winter, and my house is drier then hell. I have a harvest coming any day now, and my usual drying area, as well as everywhere else in the house, is way to dry and don't want my buds drying to quick. I tried adding humidity to the room but it only went up a few % with my small humidifier.
Is there some sort of method I could use, maybe a box of some sorts, or possible paper bags, to dry my buds before I cure.
I typically don't hang dry, I have drying racks I use.
Right now the drying room I usually work in is 60F and around 30-35% humidity.
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earthling420
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Bout to start fresh see my true power ( the dirt) lol anyone have experience germing seed after soaking in humid acid for 24 hours?
I think ill just fem it in the soil to be safe. my beautiful soil
I think ill just fem it in the soil to be safe. my beautiful soil
greasemonkeymann
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hang dry whole plant or at least whole branches (sunleaves and all) and put them in a brown paper bag, twist up the top of the bags, and dry them inside it, it'll slow the drying process.
the least amount of "wounds" the better, and by "wounds" I mean any part of the plant that'll bleed when you cut it, you don't want to take any of the leaves off for that purpose. Every wound will allow the plant to transpire it's liquids faster which of course facilitates the drying process.
I really hate line racks, always dry too fast for my liking.
The slower the better for me.
but I do it solely for me, not large commercial stuff
AllDayToker
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Well manicuring after the leaves and such are dry sounds like a giant pain to me, but if it's my only choice to slow down the dry and get good product then I gotta do what I gotta do.
greasemonkeymann
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it certainly is a pain. Believe me I've tried numerous ways to cure and unfortunately it's the best for taste and smoke.
there are a couple shitty parts of pot growing.
1.cloning.
2.trimming.
3.harvesting worm castings.
I LOVE the rest of it, but reaaaaally could go without ever having to trim again...
If it gets humid take the bags off, or "burp" them like you would jars, you'd be surprised how much water/moisture bags can hold.
st0wandgrow
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It's really not ADT. I used to trim while the buds were still wet, which worked great in the summer (humid) but my shit dried out too quick in the winter, so I started doing what grease recommended above and it works great. The plants will dry much slower, and it's actually easier to trim when the leaves are dry and brittle.... at least for me.
AllDayToker
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Alright so just cut it into branches and throw them in a paper bag, and close it up. Seems simple enough.
How much do you normally put in one bag? Or do you just watch the humidity? I can throw a hygrometer in the bag with them.
greasemonkeymann
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well depending on the strain of course..
but like I said the less "wounds" the better.
I've only had to do this method 3 times, never had to check the humidity numbers, after all the harvests I've done you kinda get a "feel" for it... I know that doesn't help. Sorry.
If it's too dry, you really don't need to worry about a hydrometer, the paper bags don't hold the moisture THAT well, not like a plastic bag would. Just slows the evaporation of the plant.
If you have squatty indicas try and put the whole plant into a bag, if you have sativa hybrids then go by branch.
If it's REALLY dry you can also tie small plastic bags/ or plastic wrap around the ends of the branches to slow the drying as well. Usually you don't need to go THAT far.
Your first sentence is spot on.
"Alright so just cut it into branches and throw them in a paper bag, and close it up. Seems simple enough."
exactly.
st0wandgrow
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I keep it pretty simple. I remove the larger fan leaves, then cut the plant at the base of the trunk. I then hang the whole plant. If it's really dry I will fill a 5 gallon bucket up with water and leave it beneath where the plants are drying for a little moisture as it dissipates. This time of year it takes a week to 10 days to dry. I then remove individual branches and get to trimming. That's it.
Mohican
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I have also seen people use grow tents to control the RH. Closets and small closed areas will increase in humidity from the plant. My indoor space is very air-tight and stays right at 65% RH. I can dry forever in there and they never get harsh.
I had to use the hot dry sun last year to get some of the denser buds to dry!
Cheers,
Mo
I had to use the hot dry sun last year to get some of the denser buds to dry!
Cheers,
Mo
Rrog
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I overdo everything, so I keep the bud & branch upside down on christmas ornament hooks on little clotheslines in a tote with a fan. I monitor the rH to 60-70%. Pretty high, but constant air movement. I do that for 7 days. I feel the chlorophyll breaks down. Chemical reactions continue for a bit. I do this at 70F.
Then I trim bud from branch and place in 1/2 gallon mason jars. 1/2 full, jars laid on their sides so the bud is about 1-2 layers of bud deep on the bottom. Each jar has a calibur III hygrometer and I burp the bud a few times daily as I slowly draw the Rh to 65%. That's about a week. I can then stand the jars back upright, maybe consolidate a few. Then another 3 weeks of less frequent burping to get to 60% where I leave it.
I got all of this from the famous Simon threads
That's what I do. Probably a waste of time... lol
Then I trim bud from branch and place in 1/2 gallon mason jars. 1/2 full, jars laid on their sides so the bud is about 1-2 layers of bud deep on the bottom. Each jar has a calibur III hygrometer and I burp the bud a few times daily as I slowly draw the Rh to 65%. That's about a week. I can then stand the jars back upright, maybe consolidate a few. Then another 3 weeks of less frequent burping to get to 60% where I leave it.
I got all of this from the famous Simon threads
That's what I do. Probably a waste of time... lol