Look at this beautiful 25 gram cola!!!

a senile fungus

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I have phased out probably of 100 strains that I have acquired over the 10 years only kept the best of the best.. my goal it to find a plant that requires minimum amouts of water, so drought resistant. Crazy bushy fast growing in veg. With a short flowering period of max 65 days. That can easily yield half pounders in 15 gallon pots with a 6 week veg.. while offering all done organically

That sounds wonderful for many outdoor growers!

I myself am trying a couple strains outdoor this year and I'm hoping the season is long enough for me to finish them.

And yes to organics, I love my organic soil and bud.
 

a senile fungus

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Correct me if im right but isn't all this cross breeding just getting abit messy ?

like you've got about 8 different strains to produce one plant ........ But what exactly is it ? And how many times have those 8 strains been crossed before and before etc etc .

if this makes sense:)
You finally made a point for once.

If all this inbreeding over and over is going on for generations after generations.

WELL ITS ALL JUST THE SAME PLANT! NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT! They're all MUTTS. Like Murica. I guess.

:bigjoint:

Do you even genetics?
 

Iloveskywalkerog

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="ODanksta, post: 11374684, member: 464712"]This a strain I made called the "Da Gas" my homie always says yo bro that shit is the GAS! So that what I called.. The is Shoreline x Herijuana male to Comrade x Blue Apollo female.. Comrade is white russian x black russian And the blue Apollo is Dj'shorts BB x Apollo 11.. bred back to Jack Herer.. View attachment 3364815View attachment 3364816 View attachment 3364817
When i saw the first picture I said ewwww but the second one definitely put the 1st one to absolute shame and I'm from Texas
 

mainliner

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To understand the principles behind the breeding of cannabis you first need to be familiar with some basic terms related to genetics. "Genotype" is the genetic and chromosomal make-up of any given individual ? it is the genetic code. "Phenotype" is the expression of body type, structure, and appearance of individuals; it results from the interaction between genotype and environment.
Specific environmental conditions are often required for certain phenotypic expressions from a given genotype. If the available nutrients, hours of sunlight, or other conditions are not available then the development of the plant or animal will be altered. These conditions are referred to as "environmental triggers."

Two individuals with the same genotype can have greatly different phenotypes if grown in different environments.







but at the end of the day every single material thing is made of quanta ........ So non of it makes sense :)
 

Iloveskywalkerog

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i'm sure it looks better to a texan.
I say it looks like shit and i live in Texas, people have the misconception that Texas is full of shit like the first picture or worst but really it all depends on who you know. Now I live in Dallas certain areas have dank Plano is full of great dank, I live in garland I know 2 people out here who sell real dank. Most weed dealers out here try to market their bud which looks like the first picture as actual dank when really I know it's shit I'm from Palmdale, CA you can't fool me my friends out here who were born in raised in TX actually believe its legit kush it's way to funny so I guess you're right that would look better to a Texan. I only buy from the 2 people who sell good dank that's light green and frosty. I'll show y'all a picture as soon as I'm done with my break
 

Singlemalt

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To understand the principles behind the breeding of cannabis you first need to be familiar with some basic terms related to genetics. "Genotype" is the genetic and chromosomal make-up of any given individual ? it is the genetic code. "Phenotype" is the expression of body type, structure, and appearance of individuals; it results from the interaction between genotype and environment.
Specific environmental conditions are often required for certain phenotypic expressions from a given genotype. If the available nutrients, hours of sunlight, or other conditions are not available then the development of the plant or animal will be altered. These conditions are referred to as "environmental triggers."

Two individuals with the same genotype can have greatly different phenotypes if grown in different environments.







but at the end of the day every single material thing is made of quanta ........ So non of it makes sense :)
Exactly, horticulturally look at the the genera Capsicum, Cucurbita, Brassica, etc
 

a senile fungus

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Exactly, horticulturally look at the the genera Capsicum, Cucurbita, Brassica, etc

What about the 1000s of species of orchids or sunflowers, among others?

Interbreeding doesn't cause some genetic mish mash that makes us eventually all the same skin tone, eye color, and height.
 

mainliner

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What about the 1000s of species of orchids or sunflowers, among others?

Interbreeding doesn't cause some genetic mish mash that makes us eventually all the same skin tone, eye color, and height.
its just the way people list like 10 different stains to breed one plant theve named after their dog ....... What actually is the plant and whats the point ?


lol
 

a senile fungus

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its just the way people list like 10 different stains to breed one plant theve named after their dog ....... What actually is the plant and whats the point ?


lol

You don't understand man...

I've got a local guy here in Michigan who is very interested in Cheese, the strain.

I brought him some BC Cheese that I grew and he went upstairs and brought down some Skunk#1 and some UK Cheese, both of which are crossed to make the BC Cheese (cheese x (cheese x skunk#1)) iirc.

I could taste the uniqueness in each parents, and the unique combo in the progeny.

The cheese has a distinct exhale flavor that carried over into the BC Cheese, and also into Dairy Queen that I've noticed.

I had never had the opportunity to compare strains that were so closely related before, and after that session breeding has been a goal of mine.

Each of those strains listed by ODanksta brought something to the table, and created something new.

Very cool in my book.
 

Singlemalt

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Not sure where this is going so I'll establish my position. I'd encourage O'danksta. Over the course of 1000's of years man has tinkered with genetics and selected for phenotypes for a variety of plants. We now have phenotypes that are fairly stable in veggies, fruits and grains; however within each group they are still inter-fertile and one can figuratively throw a wrench in the works. All this ultimately leads to speciation; of course not in our lifetime, it'll take 10's of thousands of years.
Point is, with careful stewardship, in the not too distant future, one could plant MJ seeds and consistently get exactly what is advertized. It'll be interesting to see what O'Dank comes up with in say 30 yrs if he sticks with it, esp if he finds what he wants and then stabilizes it
 

a senile fungus

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Not sure where this is going so I'll establish my position. I'd encourage O'danksta. Over the course of 1000's of years man has tinkered with genetics and selected for phenotypes for a variety of plants. We now have phenotypes that are fairly stable in veggies, fruits and grains; however within each group they are still inter-fertile and one can figuratively throw a wrench in the works. All this ultimately leads to speciation; of course not in our lifetime, it'll take 10's of thousands of years.
Point is, with careful stewardship, in the not too distant future, one could plant MJ seeds and consistently get exactly what is advertized. It'll be interesting to see what O'Dank comes up with in say 30 yrs if he sticks with it, esp if he finds what he wants and then stabilizes it
We can leave it at that, well said.

I still think testing of the final product is in order!
 

Singlemalt

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Yep, I've been tinkering for many years, off and on, a bagseed sativa from years ago and in the last 3 yrs. crossing it with one cross I made of Maui Wowie and lemon skunk. I've gotten progeny that smell totally hardcore floral and an interesting very mild stone; a good mid-grade lemon smell and higher stone; and one thats exactly like the Maui. That's three new phenotypes; what do you focus on? I'm very interested in the floral one cuz I've never smelled weed like that, not even close. I want to stabilize the aroma and then breed in more stoniness. I doubt I can do it cuz I'm too old; ya gotta test each plant "shrug". Its fun tho
 

a senile fungus

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Yep, I've been tinkering for many years, off and on, a bagseed sativa from years ago and in the last 3 yrs. crossing it with one cross I made of Maui Wowie and lemon skunk. I've gotten progeny that smell totally hardcore floral and an interesting very mild stone; a good mid-grade lemon smell and higher stone; and one thats exactly like the Maui. That's three new phenotypes; what do you focus on? I'm very interested in the floral one cuz I've never smelled weed like that, not even close. I want to stabilize the aroma and then breed in more stoniness. I doubt I can do it cuz I'm too old; ya gotta test each plant "shrug". Its fun tho

I guess at that point you focus on what you want, right??

You mix and match and who knows what you'll really end up with? It might be some crazy floral aroma that you've never encountered and now you wanna bring the smell forward and keep the stoniness.

I might like the colors and want to bring those out, while you try to stabilize the smell. Either way, we're specifically choosing certain traits/genes that we want the next generation to have, and THAT is the point.

As far as testing, you could always send seeds to friends/family/other users (nudge) and they'd be happy to crack some seeds and pheno hunt for you!
 

Singlemalt

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I guess at that point you focus on what you want, right??

You mix and match and who knows what you'll really end up with? It might be some crazy floral aroma that you've never encountered and now you wanna bring the smell forward and keep the stoniness.

I might like the colors and want to bring those out, while you try to stabilize the smell. Either way, we're specifically choosing certain traits/genes that we want the next generation to have, and THAT is the point.

As far as testing, you could always send seeds to friends/family/other users (nudge) and they'd be happy to crack some seeds and pheno hunt for you!
Exactly! It's a hard job lol
 
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