Aid to Israel rape of American taxpayer

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ccodiane

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I really like Lieberman for his seemingly honest independence. He does what HE, and his constituents, seem to think what's right. As the (R) VP, I hate that punk ass bitch.
 

We TaRdED

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I say it's time to start washing, but you've completely missed the point! The point is, it's really not about Israel, it's about money. Israel is just a distraction to fool the world while we are raping and pilaging other countries in the region and around the world, the true mantra of capitalism, "They hate us for our freedom", while we are fucking everyone elses freedom including ours, aint Capitalism great?
I believe capitalism IS great!

But........ But I believe our capitalist country has been compromised by the big money companies. The lobbyists have (most of) the politicians bought out and are now partially working "secretly" for whomever company/lobbyist had the highest bid. Politicians are like expensive entities at an auction, they get sold out to the highest bidder. And, when the Zionist Jews are the ones in charge of the private monopoly printing our money/dollars (the "Federal" Reserve) than it only takes a layman to connect the dots that the "Federal" Reserve has the most buying power and thusly the most political influence. (MM, you should know exactly what I'm talking about here)

So, I believe capitalism is great, but our system- the US gov't- is corrupt and is more poised towards fascism than capitalism.

Can anyone more savvy tell me if this infomation is true? YouTube - Plans Against Dissidents

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 

medicineman

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1.One of the fundamental faults of capitalism is the basic axiom that if everybody tries to accumulate as much property as possible the general interest of the people will be served. All this seems to create is exploitation. The factory owners try to reduce as much as possible their expenditures on employees. The factory and storeowners try to profiteer as much as possible without any concern for the public. It has often been said that such a piggish axiom is needed to motivate people. But there are other motivations besides greed, such as, travel, interesting work, extra vacation time, shorter hours, a feeling of importance, and the feeling of happi­ness which comes from doing a good job and helping build a better community. To support the wage-incentive axiom is the myth that luxuries brings happiness. Are we that much on an island that we have no compassion for our fellow man, for there are only so many loaves of bread in our country? I think a system which is based on an assumption that man is basically piggish and therefore only fit to look after his own needs; such system impedes rather than promotes the good within each person.

This is the basis of Capitalism, piggishness.
 

medicineman

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2. I have felt there is more to justice than the impartial enforcement of laws. Is there not a Christian sense of justice, where it is wrong to take advantage of other people? This sense of fairness comes into conflict with the business ethic, which considers as right all forms of profiteering and exploitation as long as it is within the law. Through the millions spent in lobbing reasonable controls upon business have been removed. The desire for economic success and the influence of the powerful elite have ruined the mass media. The restrictions advertisers de facto place upon content has limited critical political and economic ideas while presenting subtle approval of our economic system. The mass media is becoming more and more an opiate, an aid for living the unexamined life. There is a lack of diversity of opinion. The schools could do much better by teaching critical analysis. Why is it that philosophy and ethics, economics, and political theory are not taught as exercises in critical thought in our public schools? And what about media content? Who would be challenged—besides the churches—by a populace that a developed ability to critically analyze complex issues? With such a populace there would be many fundamental changes and social justice would become its first axiom.
 

medicineman

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3. Under capitalism insensitivity to human needs has developed. For example, Canada and the United States worry about overproduction of food, and actually pay for the reduction of crops while people starve throughout the world, including on our own doorsteps. Also the production of goods is determined by its market and not by human need. At all levels of development industries are run as if they are a good in themselves and should be maintained for their own sake and not for the welfare of mankind. I would like to see a system where production is determined by human need.
So in reply to a question by my American friend “What would replace it (capitalism)?” I would suggest a world government dedicated to seeing that: (a) every­body was properly fed, clothed, and housed; (b) everyone worked and received a fair return for their work with none receiving too much; (c) intellectual deve1opment for all to be encouraged; (d) businesses are the servant to man; (e) the production of war materials end; (f) the ending of all exploitation, including one region by another or one class by another; (g) and the ending of a press which is controlled by those who make up the ruling class.
Only in countries like the United States can people be so ignorant of what is wrong with capitalism as to think it to be a perfectly fine system which needs only occasional slight modifications to insure that it will be a political-economic system lasting for all times. It is time that democracy be practiced by creating an informed, reasoning public.
 

We TaRdED

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And then some people, after reading post after post after hateful post from a bitter, angry, emasculated old man, just get fucking sick and tired of his spouting against people based solely upon their fucking last name. All because he couldn't shoot his own wad. He is a bigot, through and through. And a liar. And a piss poor one at that. So, they decide they've had enough of his bullshit to call him on it. As for him, I won't imply or suggest anything of the sort, I will make an unequivocal declarative statement, he's a bigot, and anti-Semitic bigot.
And YOUR true colors come out too. (someone having a bad day? :mrgreen:)

Your calling MM an "anti-Semitic bigot" because knows history and facts. Why don't you debate with him about WHY he believes the Jews are at blame. Why don't you go see which group owns ~90% of the mainstream media.

You remind me of a ignorant person calling RON PAUL a raciest or something(its just silly). MM knows who owns the "Federal" Reserve AND the MainStream Media. These Zionists have a PRIVATE monopoly on the printing our OUR money, AND the information that we perceive as "true". Can't anyone else see how a group of people that have a monopoly on our money and information/media is very dangerous indeed.

So, my point being is that YOU look like a boob calling MM a liar, bigot, anti-Semitic, piss poor, emasculated old man, and blah blah blah. Why don't you try and refute his propositions instead of personally attacking the guy.

It just makes me upset to see a RON PAUL supporter being so closed minded. If you support RON PAUL you should obviously know some of the corruptions that the gov't ensued. I'm not saying that every "conspiracy theory" is correct, but rather look to find the truth before you attack.

From what I gather, MedMan isn't anti-Semitic at all, but rather just against the corruption of gov't and the New World Order. He is putting the pieces of the esoteric gov't knowledge together. I believe most of the mainstream media is controlled by Zionist Jews and thats why the US tax payers are being rapped- its because the Zionist Jews also (partially) own the "Federal" Reserve and thusly a monopoly on news/information and our currency.

YouTube - Is Iran Ready To Take Over Europe?

Why else would we be spewing so much money to Israel? Why can't we be friends with Iran too? Is it because they "harbor terrorists" too. HAHA

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 

medicineman

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And YOUR true colors come out too. (someone having a bad day? :mrgreen:)

Your calling MM an "anti-Semitic bigot" because knows history and facts. Why don't you debate with him about WHY he believes the Jews are at blame. Why don't you go see which group owns ~90% of the mainstream media.

You remind me of a ignorant person calling RON PAUL a raciest or something(its just silly). MM knows who owns the "Federal" Reserve AND the MainStream Media. These Zionists have a PRIVATE monopoly on the printing our OUR money, AND the information that we perceive as "true". Can't anyone else see how a group of people that have a monopoly on our money and information/media is very dangerous indeed.

So, my point being is that YOU look like a boob calling MM a liar, bigot, anti-Semitic, piss poor, emasculated old man, and blah blah blah. Why don't you try and refute his propositions instead of personally attacking the guy.

It just makes me upset to see a RON PAUL supporter being so closed minded. If you support RON PAUL you should obviously know some of the corruptions that the gov't ensued. I'm not saying that every "conspiracy theory" is correct, but rather look to find the truth before you attack.

From what I gather, MedMan isn't anti-Semitic at all, but rather just against the corruption of gov't and the New World Order. He is putting the pieces of the esoteric gov't knowledge together. I believe most of the mainstream media is controlled by Zionist Jews and thats why the US tax payers are being rapped- its because the Zionist Jews also (partially) own the "Federal" Reserve and thusly a monopoly on news/information and our currency.

YouTube - Is Iran Ready To Take Over Europe?

Why else would we be spewing so much money to Israel? Why can't we be friends with Iran too? Is it because they "harbor terrorists" too. HAHA

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
Thanks WE, sometimes the seabitch is pretty ignorant. I don't hate Jews, never have. My nextdoor neighbor is jewish and we are the best of friends. There are many forthright jews in the world, hell, Jesus was a Jew. I hate those in control of our country. The ones that use our country to further their zionist ways. Just so happens most of them are Jews.
 

We TaRdED

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3. Under capitalism insensitivity to human needs has developed. For example, Canada and the United States worry about overproduction of food, and actually pay for the reduction of crops while people starve throughout the world, including on our own doorsteps. Also the production of goods is determined by its market and not by human need. At all levels of development industries are run as if they are a good in themselves and should be maintained for their own sake and not for the welfare of mankind. I would like to see a system where production is determined by human need.
So in reply to a question by my American friend “What would replace it (capitalism)?” I would suggest a world government dedicated to seeing that: (a) every*body was properly fed, clothed, and housed; (b) everyone worked and received a fair return for their work with none receiving too much; (c) intellectual deve1opment for all to be encouraged; (d) businesses are the servant to man; (e) the production of war materials end; (f) the ending of all exploitation, including one region by another or one class by another; (g) and the ending of a press which is controlled by those who make up the ruling class.
Only in countries like the United States can people be so ignorant of what is wrong with capitalism as to think it to be a perfectly fine system which needs only occasional slight modifications to insure that it will be a political-economic system lasting for all times. It is time that democracy be practiced by creating an informed, reasoning public.
I agree with pretty much everything you said in your last three posts. I also believe that humans are "piggish" and are greedy. I also believe the downfall of America has been attributed to greed an corruption.

I strongly believe that we don't need a one world gov't though. It seems like most gov'ts turn into corporations and then their lust for greed increases the burdens on the people, AKA increasing taxes and the cost of living.

Just look at our civil liberties they have taken away within the last 8 years of Bush being in office. Most people don't know what bills have passed while GWB has been in office. MM, what do you think the king/dictator/president/queen/tyrant of the world would do for the people? I believe if we ever start taking steps towards a one world gov't (New World Order) than the people need to unite fast or forever be oppressed by the one world gov't/military. You would be either follow the world gov't laws or go to jail. They would have a monopoly on THE WORLD! People would have to flee to the jungle if they didn't want to pay taxes.

Can you do a fact check on this video MM...
YouTube - Plans Against Dissidents

I believe capitalism isn't perfect, but any other form of gov't is worse. Its man which hinders capitalism (because of greed) and not the other way around. Socialism/communism, to me, could potentially be equivalent to the Chinese child labor and sweat shops. Socialism is pretty much letting the gov't/corporations take control over society as a whole. The big wigs are the only ones that can prosper and the rest of us are just worker bees. Just my humble opinion on what socialism could very well be like.

I think I would have rather been born into an Indian tribe instead of modern day society where you can't wipe your ass without paying taxes on it. I'm sick of contributing MY MONEY to a corrupt gov't that is trying to slowly take over the world. The war in the middle east is unjust and is taking a huge toll on their cultures, and I don't blame the "insurgents" one bit for being pissed off at America for invading their land. 911 was an inside job, and the middle eastern "insurgents" are simply trying to defend their land and culture. I'm not rectifying all of their previous actions, and I'm not saying saying that don't see some cultural flaws, but I believe we(the USA) turned to war instead of diplomacy.

The USA gov't/corporation is the true terrorists and the middle eastern "insurgents" are mostly fighting for their culture and land. The USA is the new gov't in the world. The USA only came to be within the last ~200 years, so what gives us the right to say our shit don't stink? How many people in the USA cheats on their spouse and beats their wives and family? I believe we should concern ourselves more with our own domestic problems instead of dropping bombs on middle eastern people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

(I'll refrain from going more on a rant)

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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We TaRdED

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Thanks WE, sometimes the seabitch is pretty ignorant. I don't hate Jews, never have. My nextdoor neighbor is jewish and we are the best of friends. There are many forthright jews in the world, hell, Jesus was a Jew. I hate those in control of our country. The ones that use our country to further their zionist ways. Just so happens most of them are Jews.
I know exactly how you feel.

Thats why I gave my 2 cents to SM.. I don't hate anything about your mundane Jew either. I do have problems with the Jews owning most of the mainstream media and "Federal" Reserve though.

I have friends that are Jewish too. Its the same reason why I don't discriminate any one race- its because you can't hold an individual accountable for its leaders malice. I don't hate middle eastern people any more than I hate my own brother. I don't like how the US gov't is dealing with its foreign policy, but I still love my country and its people. I'm not anti-America, anti-Semitic or anti-anything except corruption!

I am anti-corruption!
I'm a patriot that bleeds red, white and blue :D

YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 

We TaRdED

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(Anyone interested in educational SPAM? Some "food for thought"... HAHA)

Who do you believe?

The MainSream Media(MSM) and gov't. "The kids need the fluoride in the tap water" YouTube - Notebook: Bottled Water

Or scientists and doctors?
YouTube - Professional Perspectives: Fluoride in Tap Water
YouTube - Fluoride Poisoning
YouTube - Dangers of Fluoride

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________

YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real

YouTube - Alex Jones Predicts 911

YouTube - WTC 7 - Pull It By Larry Silverstein

YouTube - Here's something the government didn't want you to see

YouTube - FOX-5 Reports 9/11/01: WTC-7 Collapsed Before Actual Event

YouTube - 911 WTC Basement Explosions video and photographic proof

YouTube - Dick Cheney Exposed! - Excellent TV Doc
YouTube - US Troops in Iraq talk about Halliburton & KBR

Richard Gage, AIA, Architect - "How The Towers Fell" - Complete 2 Hour Presentation | 911blogger.com

(Zeitgeist)
Zeitgeist - The Movie

(America; Freedom to Fascism)
America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version

(Ring of Power)
Ring of Power - Parts 1-5 - Sprword.com
Ring of Power - Parts 6-10 - Sprword.com


(The Money Masters) The Money Masters - Part 1 of 2
The Money Masters - Part 2 of 2

(Esoteric Agenda)
Esoteric Agenda - Sprword.com

(End Game)
ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global Enslavement

(The Great Global Warming Swindle)
The Great Global Warming Swindle - Channel: UKUFO on LiveVideo.com

After you educate yourself with these links you can clearly see that the media and gov't are sleeping together. You should also be aware that the media is trying to make us hate Iran (just like Iraq) by telling us all this BS propaganda. The MSM is owned by Zionist Jews and hence the wars in the middle east because of difference in religion and corrupt politics.

YouTube - Plans Against Dissidents

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REOVLUTION

~PEACE~
 

Seamaiden

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Thanks WE, sometimes the seabitch is pretty ignorant. I don't hate Jews, never have. My nextdoor neighbor is jewish and we are the best of friends. There are many forthright jews in the world, hell, Jesus was a Jew. I hate those in control of our country. The ones that use our country to further their zionist ways. Just so happens most of them are Jews.
:lol: Yeah, and he's black, too, huh? What a fucking liar you are.
 

medicineman

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:lol: Yeah, and he's black, too, huh? What a fucking liar you are.
Seabiscuit, or seabitch as your proper name is. You have no Idea what you're talking about, so return to your stall and fuck off. If by chance you do know my address, (Your dickhead husband and his puny ISP job), I'll have your ass and your husbands job. Don't underestimate me bitch. I know a few powerful people. You and your dickhead husband would do yourselves a favor by acting civil.
 

Seamaiden

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Seabiscuit, or seabitch as your proper name is. You have no Idea what you're talking about, so return to your stall and fuck off. If by chance you do know my address, (Your dickhead husband and his puny ISP job), I'll have your ass and your husbands job. Don't underestimate me bitch. I know a few powerful people. You and your dickhead husband would do yourselves a favor by acting civil.
Bring it. :D Lying twat. I'd tell you to go yank your pud, but I don't think you'd be able to find it under that there dunlap you've got going. Try another one, these are getting good. :lol: YOU, of all people, telling anyone to behave civilly, fucking RICH.

Oh yes, at this point, medicine (I'm sorry, I can't call you a man anymore), I consider this a direct threat. :D
 
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We TaRdED

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Seabiscuit, or seabitch as your proper name is. You have no Idea what you're talking about, so return to your stall and fuck off. If by chance you do know my address, (Your dickhead husband and his puny ISP job), I'll have your ass and your husbands job. Don't underestimate me bitch. I know a few powerful people. You and your dickhead husband would do yourselves a favor by acting civil.
They are threatening you by saying they know where you live? They are saying that they are going to attack you? You can't be for real. :confused:

That seems intense. I know you guys have your problems, but WOW! Dave and SB are stepping over the line on this one.

Bring it. :D Lying twat. I'd tell you to go yank your pud, but I don't think you'd be able to find it under that there dunlap you've got going. Try another one, these are getting good. :lol: YOU, of all people, telling anyone to behave civilly, fucking RICH.
You can't be serious..

I thought you were a civil RON PAUL supporter and not some belligerent trash talker.

Oh yes, at this point, medicine (I'm sorry, I can't call you a man anymore), I consider this a direct threat. :D
If you guys(Dave and SM) are threatening this guys(MM) life over your differences in political opinion (and because he likes to get people riled up) then I feel sorry for you guys.

There comes a point where you just have to ignore some people instead of letting them boil your blood. MM, has freedom of speech so you might not be able to get him to conform to your ideology. How did this get escalated to the point of him fearing you(SM) and Dave (or whomever) are going to come to his house and maim him :?..

This is ludicrous and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. I thought most of us in the political section were adults:???? Why are you letting him make you so mad? If he says a rude remark than let him look like the belligerent boob.

Get over your differences and debate logic and reasoning and forget the rest! (Unless you enjoy having internet fights..:confused: I hope we are more mature than that...)

You guys owe me $29.95 for the counciling session. You guys can either pay by cash or paypal... :lol:

The REVOLUTION has begun!

RON PAUL REOVLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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VTXDave

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I don't believe I've addressed Med in quite some time, thank you in spite of his continued disparaging of me and my wife.
 

medicineman

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I don't believe I've addressed Med in quite some time, thank you in spite of his continued disparaging of me and my wife.
Does the quote "I'll knock your cum stained teeth down your motherfucking throat" ring any bells? Duh-Dave? I'd just as soon forget about the two of you, but I can play hard also. After all, this is the internet where 90lb weaklings become supermen, I'm sure you know what I'm saying. The main guy I fight (Argue)with on site is Vi. Actually our, (You two and I) political views are not that far apart, at least not far enough to warrant the attacks you and the seatrout have been pursuing. Actually prove to me that Jews (Rich people with Jewish surnames) don't basically run our government and therefore the world. That might be interesting. seems that this is what sets the Seanob off.
 
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