yeah I did sum more reading pretty much everybody says 10-14days till roots, everything is still green I know when I clone in rockwool the plants would turn yellow and supposedly that's a sign its rooting, draining the leaves of any energy so it can root, right now there as green as they were when I cut them and perky, I want stress until 2 weeks, the root cloneing gel I would think would be useless cause I would think it would wash off and the little nutz I put in would be useless until I got roots I guess I could have used straight well water but this guy said this is the best receipt u know how that goes on the web, ttyl