The UK Growers Thread!

The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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It's basically a 'proof of concept' exercise so she can pass her degree, another gimmicky gadget that's useless in the real world Ribena.

Too small and weak for ganja and pointless for salad/veggies that can be left on the window sill or chucked in the garden with fuck all maintenance.

It's already been done years ago with the 'Aerogarden' and that didn't take off either.

Aero/hydro is for high value big yielding crops or fast mass production.
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
It's basically a 'proof of concept' exercise so she can pass her degree, another gimmicky gadget that's useless in the real world Ribena.

Too small and weak for ganja and pointless for salad/veggies that can be left on the window sill or chucked in the garden with fuck all maintenance.

It's already been done years ago with the 'Aerogarden' and that didn't take off either.

Aero/hydro is for high value big yielding crops or fast mass production.
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Oh i realise its just a gimmick but still an interesting concept if it could be perfected, not that i would want one but i could see a lot of them selling
 
The Yorkshireman

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Think how many herbs/salad leaves you'd have to grow in that to break even on the £200 price tag taking into consideration that full lettuce heads are about 50p on the market and 80p in the supermarket.
 
The Yorkshireman

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What like the overall size, shape, components? Lol

Then have to sit the unit inside a tent with a carbon filter system anyway.

For the same £200 you could have a proper HPS set up that would smash the crap out of that all day long.

Even a ghetto wardrobe grow.
 
R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
What like the overall size, shape, components? Lol

Then have to sit the unit inside a tent with a carbon filter system anyway.

For the same £200 you could have a proper HPS set up that would smash the crap out of that all day long.

Even a ghetto wardrobe grow.
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Not everyone has to use tents n carbon filters etc

A £200 HPS grow wouldnt be automated and also you cant control it from your smartphone when you are out of town

As for the size/shape etc, as you said yourself its only a proof of concept, even you know before a manaufacturer releases it for sale it would be adapted to different customers/markets
 
The Yorkshireman

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R1b3n4 said:
Not everyone has to use tents n carbon filters etc

A £200 HPS grow wouldnt be automated and also you cant control it from your smartphone when you are out of town

As for the size/shape etc, as you said yourself its only a proof of concept, even you know before a manaufacturer releases it for sale it would be adapted to different customers/markets
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OK but grow weed in a residential property without filtering the smell (regardless of legality) and at the very least living with the smell would become unbearable and worst case scenario is you get robbed.

The only automated thing about that unit would be the periodic watering like it says (small pump timer, simple).
You'd still have to mix and Ph nutes then fill the reservoir.

And yes there are many grow 'apps' available for smart phones, but you need sensors and other kit for them to work.
Which leads onto what can actually be controlled remotely with that unit seen as it's so simple? Very little I would imagine without actually knowing the units specifications.

A proof of concept yes, but THAT unit as it stands costs £200.

Sarcasm aside it's pretty fucking useless for ganja and far too expensive and pointless for veggies/salad.

But now if for some reason the Sun fails to rise tomorrow......




Like I said, the 'Aerogarden' didn't take off for the same reasons.
 
The Yorkshireman

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what's up?...ur not still using katpersky I think it was that time u got a virus/worm..ice ripped u on it i lulled
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My graphics card won't work in the top slot on my motherboard, sometimes it does and sometimes the fans just spin up on full power with no life to the card (it's not worked in that slot for 3 days now).

Put it in the bottom slot and it works fine, I've had this problem since day 1 with this card.
The thing is I bought a brand new motherboard not 3 months ago and still have the same issue.

It's not a problem having to use the bottom card slot but that means I can't overclock the card for modded games like GTA IV.

The top card slot has a case fan that blows directly onto my card keeping it stable when overclocked.
In the bottom slot the fan just blows over the back of the card so the case has reduced airflow round the card causing it to glitch out sooner if pushed.





I've got OEM Norton cos it was only £15 and that's really just to keep the annoying adware shit from slowing down the PC.

I'll say it again, the proper viruses that steal your credit card details and shit can't be found or removed with antivirus programs.

A 'Rat' program costs around £3000 a pop on the DN for a reason.
And the really interesting stuff can't be found by anybody or anything other than the bad guy because they hide in RAM or HDD sectors and then make the sector appear 'dead' behind them and therefore invisible to the OS.

This is the same technique used recently by the NSA to compromise flash RAM memory sticks at the factory before they are sold to the consumer.


You learn some stuff watching the 'Black Hat' conventions. ;)
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
My graphics card won't work in the top slot on my motherboard, sometimes it does and sometimes the fans just spin up on full power with no life to the card (it's not worked in that slot for 3 days now).

Put it in the bottom slot and it works fine, I've had this problem since day 1 with this card.
The thing is I bought a brand new motherboard not 3 months ago and still have the same issue.

It's not a problem having to use the bottom card slot but that means I can't overclock the card for modded games like GTA IV.

The top card slot has a case fan that blows directly onto my card keeping it stable when overclocked.
In the bottom slot the fan just blows over the back of the card so the case has reduced airflow round the card causing it to glitch out sooner if pushed.





I've got OEM Norton cos it was only £15 and that's really just to keep the annoying adware shit from slowing down the PC.

I'll say it again, the proper viruses that steal your credit card details and shit can't be found or removed with antivirus programs.

A 'Rat' program costs around £3000 a pop on the DN for a reason.
And the really interesting stuff can't be found by anybody or anything other than the bad guy because they hide in RAM or HDD sectors and then make the sector appear 'dead' behind them and therefore invisible to the OS.

This is the same technique used recently by the NSA to compromise flash RAM memory sticks at the factory before they are sold to the consumer.


You learn some stuff watching the 'Black Hat' conventions. ;)
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what motherboard and card? my best mate will probably come up with a solution instantly if i ask him about it
 
The Yorkshireman

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R1b3n4 said:
what motherboard and card? my best mate will probably come up with a solution instantly if i ask him about it
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Mate I've been building custom rigs for over 10 years, I'll put my left testicle on it he can't solve it.

The card is an 'ATI HD6870' dual fan edition by XFX.

1 card in 3 different motherboards, same problem.

I think either the card has been faulty since day 1 (which doesn't make sense as it works in the bottom) or that there is a fitment problem with my case making it not sit right when in the top slot position.

Other than that I'm stumped.
 
R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
Mate I've been building custom rigs for over 10 years, I'll put my left testicle on it he can't solve it.

The card is an 'ATI HD6870' dual fan edition by XFX.

1 card in 3 different motherboards, same problem.

I think either the card has been faulty since day 1 (which doesn't make sense as it works in the bottom) or that there is a fitment problem with my case making it not sit right when in the top slot position.

Other than that I'm stumped.
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Had a word with him over the phone an have written it down below as well as i can remember it ( im crap with computers)

he reckons its been a dodgy card since day 1, something along the lines of .........

"overclocking it in the top slot has further exaggerated the existing problem with the card and whilst its being overclocked there are not enough lanes to fully use all the power of the card anyway (analogy he used was imagine doing 70mph in a car but only in 2nd gear, you are revving the nuts out of it but not using the full power of the engine/gearbox that is available by using it properly,, i.e. correct gear for correct speed) and then by virtue of it being now used in the bottom slot, the bottom slot will not/cannot allow the full power of the card to be used simply because its the bottom slot and that is the way they are made/configured

Also he said being an ATI card its more than likely a minor failure due to the heat sink/thermal compound etc that ATI use being from different suppliers an some of the suppliers have history of cheaping out on materials/ingredients especially the thermal compound used on the heatsinks and also there is a known history of the heatsinks/thermal compounds not being installed on the card correctly in the first place (i.e. not covering enough surface area and causing hot/cool spots
 
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