Suggestions for a 5x5 room?

bicit

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I am about having the best. What ever that is. Just took 4-5 year for something to get to apache's level. I have been running cxa's for a while now.


That light is CXA3070 at 1400ma.
What do you have running in between the heatsinks? (I suppose I could just look at your thread)

I love how uniform things look under that light. 3000K?
 

JimmyIndica

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I am about having the best. What ever that is. Just took 4-5 year for something to get to apache's level. I have been running cxa's for a while now.


That light is CXA3070 at 1400ma.
Throw a cover on that and put in production? I need 2 half that size? Nicest one I have seen! Whats the wattage on that?
 
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Greengenes707

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My ideal system for blowing a 1000w HPS away would involve 16 CXB3070s @ 1.4A - 32 watts per foot in a 5x5.

Have you put that lamp up against a HPS?
I don't run hps any more. But have years of consistent yields with them and know what I get from them. I also have done side by sides with hps and my apaches.
I have compare par outputs over the footprint and is superior to 1k. I also have a client with 10 of this desgn hanging and waiting on 10 more. And another guy with 2 of them. Nothing but praise and amazement about the lights. Their lights have a housings and reflectors...but other than that, are what see above.
Most everything is in my thread or on my channel.
What do you have running in between the heatsinks? (I suppose I could just look at your thread)

I love how uniform things look under that light. 3000K?
I'll save you the time...you at least know where to look if need be. And not sure if I ever actually said it.
It's roof flashing. Lightest I could find at the time while still fairly cheap.

This one is actually 4k. And doing amazing. It was what made the one client want a full order for his operation. I lent it to him, and can see why he was so happy...its rocking.
Throw a cover on that and put in production? I need 2 half that size? Nicest one I have seen! Whats the wattage on that?
Thanks. Who says I haven't already ;)
Stay tuned. When there is more to say...trust me you will all know what's up.
 
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mr.smileyface

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Buy a 400w/600w digi ballast with dimmer and cooltube and do cheap led panels on the side
300w(192) actual 3w diodes.
Just get about 1100watts of power going in there. 9 plants veg for a month dpending on growth. U need some sort of major source of light to penitrate canopey. Hps has proven its self. Here is 29 400w hps bubba kush in 3x3 5 plants looking through plastic veiwing port. Its all about qauntity of light. If u dont want hps then buy a panel with 5w diodes or 10w diodes. I have zero experiances with LEDs so couldnt tell you if they beat hps w for w in heat/light. Cheers
 

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p4id

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Greengenes, that light is an inspirational thing of beauty :-)
I must make something similar but smaller, for a 1m X 1m

Somewhere you said that you were not going to go with the cxb3590, any reason why, or is it just because you are happy with what you have ?
 

JimmyIndica

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I don't run hps any more. But have years of consistent yields with them and know what I get from them. I also have done side by sides with hps and my apaches.
I have compare par outputs over the footprint and is superior to 1k. I also have a client with 10 of this desgn hanging and waiting on 10 more. And another guy with 2 of them. Nothing but praise and amazement about the lights. Their lights have a housings and reflectors...but other than that, are what see above.
Most everything is in my thread or on my channel.

I'll save you the time...you at least know where to look if need be. And not sure if I ever actually said it.
It's roof flashing. Lightest I could find at the time while still fairly cheap.

This one is actually 4k. And doing amazing. It was what made the one client want a full order for his operation. I lent it to him, and can see why he was so happy...its rocking.

Thanks. Who says I haven't already ;)
Stay tuned. When there is more to say...trust me you will all know what's up.
NICE! Let me know I"ll rock them Bad asses! Commercial problem solved right here on RIU? I am gonna grab optic 200 cree cob until A51 come out. 3k 80 still dom flower spec? or 93? I know he runnin vero and I just want to try cree also.
 

JimmyIndica

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Whats up guys. Just got a new grow room which is 5x5x7 foot. Was going to use it for a flower room as i already have a 3x3x6 foot tent. Ive read that LEDs dont flower as good as an HPS which is what im using now. But if i can save energy and still get good buds i would rather go that route lol. I was looking into ProGrow 260s. What would you guys do in this situation? Any suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
Right now I think your best value/quality are optic vero29 200watt 3000k 4 of them. Could always go with A51 5 RW150 until their vero29 come out. Try for 750 watts for the 5x5! I like it that u can veg with the RWs which is nice! RW75 just went out of stock!
 

bicit

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Right now I think your best value/quality are optic vero29 200watt 3000k 4 of them. Could always go with A51 5 RW150 until their vero29 come out. Try for 750 watts for the 5x5! I like it that u can veg with the RWs which is nice! RW75 just went out of stock!
The best value for the money would be a DIY panel. With the vero series, it's practically plug and play.
 

Jeeyah

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I'm most likely going to try (9) Vero 29 or CXB3070. For drivers , Meanwell LPF-90 or HLG-80H. Maybe some passive heat sinks 3 feet long with 3 COB's on each. That's the thing, everyboy's situation is different. One thing I realized once I started planning this, It's not worth it unless it's going to be way better than a 1000HPS.
 

Tim Fox

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Does anyone do a cost comparison over the lifespan of the LED, the savings not only in electrify each month, as well as the savings in not having to purchase a hps bulb each grow cycle? For me the LED wins big time
 

Jeeyah

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Does anyone do a cost comparison over the lifespan of the LED, the savings not only in electrify each month, as well as the savings in not having to purchase a hps bulb each grow cycle? For me the LED wins big time
Yup SupraSPL.

That's why the light has to be planned correctly. If it's not built correctly, HPS is better. A 1k ballast is 99 bucks now. lol And, apparently double ended HPS bulbs are over 40% efficient. With that in mind, I need to plan this better. It's going to need to be at least 700 watts, and >40% efficient.
 

Tim Fox

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so lets say if a 1000 watt HPS buld is right at 40 bucks on ebay , and you replace it every 3 or 4 months per grow, and an LED if rated at 50,000 hours on a 12 12 cycle will last 11 years, and lets say you do 3 grows per yer ( if you can get it that tight) , 3 x 40 = 120 per year on 1000 watt bulbs x 11 years your at 1320bucks, and a few dollars on electricity, i guess its a pretty close race? spend it all up front so to speak or spread out the payments, I may be talking out my ass here, but I am trying to make the best sense of it all
 

goldenbudzz

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One thing I realized once I started planning this, It's not worth it unless it's going to be way better than a 1000HPS.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. Im planning a 1000w but still learning about everything in the LED DIY lol been reading for 4 days straight lmao :wall:
 

bicit

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so lets say if a 1000 watt HPS buld is right at 40 bucks on ebay , and you replace it every 3 or 4 months per grow, and an LED if rated at 50,000 hours on a 12 12 cycle will last 11 years, and lets say you do 3 grows per yer ( if you can get it that tight) , 3 x 40 = 120 per year on 1000 watt bulbs x 11 years your at 1320bucks, and a few dollars on electricity, i guess its a pretty close race? spend it all up front so to speak or spread out the payments, I may be talking out my ass here, but I am trying to make the best sense of it all
I think you're overestimating how often bulbs are swapped out. 1 year for a hps is typical for the average joe. Keep in mind that HPS bulbs are rated for around 20,000 hours (+/-) depending on the manufacture. Even Ceramic metal halide is rated for 10,000 hours. Replacing a bulb that often is throwing money away lol.

It is really hard to beat HPS fiscally . The ROI is pretty long for most people. If you only plan to grow for a year, why bother with led? Cheap and dirty in that scenario. If you don't ever plan on stopping, led is the way to go. Since some of these emitters are estimated to last millions of hours when driven softly and properly cooled.
 
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