Need help! I think.....

Jr305

Active Member
Hey guys and gals, first and foremost, thank you all in advance, all the research I have done here has set me up for success and for all your info, I am grateful. That being said, I am now 1week into my very first grow...

Despite everyone saying NOT to feed for a few weeks, I did the newbie thing and fed anyways... Stupid me right? Now here's the info, she sprouted 8 days ago and I started very light nutes 3 days ago. What I have now is slight Nutrient burn with little brown spots. They have 4 pronounced yellow spots, but it's NOT Nutrient burn, it's my dumbass using 3500k cfl the first couple of days... Anyways I was going to flush this morning but I noticed that my baby grew half an inch overnight! So... What do I do? Should I flush? Should I let her fight through and keep growing? My instincts are telling me to flush, but her growth is making me second guess myself... Any help with this would be greatly appreciated

Here is some info:
  • Cream of Crop Cash crop
  • 5ga DWC
  • Fox Farm Nutrient line (Grow Big and Big Bloom and very little Root drench[Kangaroots])
  • 180PPM @ 700ppm conversion (0.2-.03 EC)
  • PH ~6.1
  • BlueLab PH and PPM pens used to check solution daily
  • solution has NOT gone above 70degrees F... (ice packs in zip lock bags keep it ~64-69F)
  • Distilled water was used ( i heard that with FF you have to use Unchlorinated tap water, maybe thats the issue)
The top picture is yesterday morning, the second is today!
is this growth normal, even under nutrient burn?
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SPLFreak808

Well-Known Member
Ouch! I would let her dry out good, then a good ph'ed water. Just putting her in non-organic soil is enough to burn the crap out of it at that age. No nute for like a month probably lol.
 

Jr305

Active Member
Ouch! I would let her dry out good, then a good ph'ed water. Just putting her in non-organic soil is enough to burn the crap out of it at that age. No nute for like a month probably lol.
Ok question.... I have FF Sledgehammer, should I use this for an hour or so to remove the nutes that have built up already in the medium? Or should I just pour ph'd water from the top and then refill reservoir with fresh ph'd water ?
 

KillsPlants

Active Member
let her be n do not bute again until she's older n fully recovered she will be okay to young for a flush so next time you water is shoot for decent run off get them nutes out imo.
 

Jr305

Active Member
let her be n do not bute again until she's older n fully recovered she will be okay to young for a flush so next time you water is shoot for decent run off get them nutes out imo.
what do you mean by decent runoff? I am running a dwc 5gl, I thought runoff was tested for soil growers?
 

Terry385

Well-Known Member
Hey guys and gals, first and foremost, thank you all in advance, all the research I have done here has set me up for success and for all your info, I am grateful. That being said, I am now 1week into my very first grow...

Despite everyone saying NOT to feed for a few weeks, I did the newbie thing and fed anyways... Stupid me right? Now here's the info, she sprouted 8 days ago and I started very light nutes 3 days ago. What I have now is slight Nutrient burn with little brown spots. They have 4 pronounced yellow spots, but it's NOT Nutrient burn, it's my dumbass using 3500k cfl the first couple of days... Anyways I was going to flush this morning but I noticed that my baby grew half an inch overnight! So... What do I do? Should I flush? Should I let her fight through and keep growing? My instincts are telling me to flush, but her growth is making me second guess myself... Any help with this would be greatly appreciated

Here is some info:
  • Cream of Crop Cash crop
  • 5ga DWC
  • Fox Farm Nutrient line (Grow Big and Big Bloom and very little Root drench[Kangaroots])
  • 180PPM @ 700ppm conversion (0.2-.03 EC)
  • PH ~6.1
  • BlueLab PH and PPM pens used to check solution daily
  • solution has NOT gone above 70degrees F... (ice packs in zip lock bags keep it ~64-69F)
  • Distilled water was used ( i heard that with FF you have to use Unchlorinated tap water, maybe thats the issue)
The top picture is yesterday morning, the second is today!
is this growth normal, even under nutrient burn?
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is the fox farm you using for hydro you don't use organics in DWC
i use this brand and feed chart.. set up for DWC
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SPLFreak808

Well-Known Member
Ok question.... I have FF Sledgehammer, should I use this for an hour or so to remove the nutes that have built up already in the medium? Or should I just pour ph'd water from the top and then refill reservoir with fresh ph'd water ?
Sorry i thought you were in soil, anyways if it were me i would use straight ph'ed water without overwatering.
 

Jr305

Active Member
I would let her be...
IMPORTANT UPDATE!
Since you are a well known member maybe you can get this info out there.
What you see in those pics is NOT nutrient burn! Its a calcium deficiency due to FoxFarms lack of micro-nutrients. There is not much info out there, only one website I found said to use unchlorinated tap water, but it didn't say why. After much research and looking at other nutrient lines, I have come to conclusion that FoxFarm relies on the water having a hardness of 200ppms or higher. With my situation, the plant was trying to grow with the rest of the nutrients it had, except it couldn't do much without Calcium and Magnesium from the tap water. I was using distilled water, but since I switched to chlorine free tap water a few days ago, the root growth exploded! I have several roots reaching down out of the pot.

Are there any other foxfarm growers who you know of that had a similar CalMag deficiency due to the use of RO or Distilled water?

There Is no info about this anywhere. FoxFarm doesn't even tell there customers that we need to use tap water.



Thanks again for your help!
 
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