TBoneJack
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Does Area 51 offer a comparable vegging light for up to a 4x4 space?
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PSUAGRO.
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not currently........................but will sooniiiiiiiiiiish
vero 29 v2 4000k should rock veg & flower grower
be safe
I'm looking to build a new led for veg and flower. Both areas have a 23"x20" footprint with flower having a little under 3 feet of headroom from the top of the pots to the roof and veg has about 15" of headroom. For the veg area I was going to run 6 vero 10's at 280ma (so that would give me about 6.5 watts per vero 10) for 39 watts over 3.19sq ft. I saw a post on the stealth/micro/cab growing forum where a guy ran 2 of the vero 10's with the same driver and said it would almost cover 4 sq ft, but I don't understand how. All my veg area will be is moms and clones, I might let clones go a little longer but I'll be running a sog so vegging won't be a big deal and maybe just two vero 10's would do the trick.
For flower I was going to copy someone elses build (Bueno Time on icmag) with 35 vero 10's ran by a HLG-185H-C1400A except instead of using all 4000k I was going to mix in some 3000k (about two thirds 3000k). That would mean at full power (1.4a) I'd be running about 200w total with 40% efficiency and enough heatsink to have passive cooling (assuming 1w dissipation for every 75cm2). But I could also turn it down, draw about 140w and get 44% efficiency. Even with it turned down I'm still almost at the 50w/sqft rule.
I feel like I actually understand everything in the forum but I might be missing something. I'm kind of using rules of thumbs that people were using for hps so I might be overkilling my lighting here. Even with the guy's build I'm copying he has almost double my space but I'm copying his light 100%. Would I be better off running 2-3 3070/vero29 or just cutting out some vero 10's and using a smaller driver? The only fear I have of that is with 2-3 cobs the light might be too intense and I'd have to have them high off the canopy and I don't have a ton of headroom, but then again I'll be running a perpetual sog so I could put the newest plants right below the cob so they won't get bleached.
Veg is easy enough to tweak and I could probably just stick with one string of 3 if I'm really over killing it, but if I'm overdoing it with flower then I'm not sure exactly what to do. It's tempting to just get the HLG-185H-C700, so I could run it at like 140w at max current but then be able to turn it down, but at that point the vero 10 spreadsheet doesn't have an info, so I'm not sure if it would be worth it, let alone work. But that would just reduce my lighting capabilities and it would cost the exact same.
For flower I was going to copy someone elses build (Bueno Time on icmag) with 35 vero 10's ran by a HLG-185H-C1400A except instead of using all 4000k I was going to mix in some 3000k (about two thirds 3000k). That would mean at full power (1.4a) I'd be running about 200w total with 40% efficiency and enough heatsink to have passive cooling (assuming 1w dissipation for every 75cm2). But I could also turn it down, draw about 140w and get 44% efficiency. Even with it turned down I'm still almost at the 50w/sqft rule.
I feel like I actually understand everything in the forum but I might be missing something. I'm kind of using rules of thumbs that people were using for hps so I might be overkilling my lighting here. Even with the guy's build I'm copying he has almost double my space but I'm copying his light 100%. Would I be better off running 2-3 3070/vero29 or just cutting out some vero 10's and using a smaller driver? The only fear I have of that is with 2-3 cobs the light might be too intense and I'd have to have them high off the canopy and I don't have a ton of headroom, but then again I'll be running a perpetual sog so I could put the newest plants right below the cob so they won't get bleached.
Veg is easy enough to tweak and I could probably just stick with one string of 3 if I'm really over killing it, but if I'm overdoing it with flower then I'm not sure exactly what to do. It's tempting to just get the HLG-185H-C700, so I could run it at like 140w at max current but then be able to turn it down, but at that point the vero 10 spreadsheet doesn't have an info, so I'm not sure if it would be worth it, let alone work. But that would just reduce my lighting capabilities and it would cost the exact same.
JimmyIndica
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$ RW
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medicinehuman
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I've been on here for a only about a year and technology is changing, New products. My first light is less than a year old and it is already old stuff. The story may be similar but I don't think it's the same old story.
PSUAGRO.
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think he's talking about a single fixture to cover that area.......? Or not
Lol.............NO
fobesterdam
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nows the day brah. get to reading and prove yourself wrong. whatever it is you wanna be wrong about. LOL....
sincerely. ITS ALL HERE. NOWHERE ELSE.
Positivity
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At first I was going to say no..
But, you may even be able to use a cob holder with that. Use a big enough screw to grab between the fins like I've seen some do
I'd just get one initially to make sure it'll work for you
The rosewills look like they have one of the the best bases for a solid mount
Positivity
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Just kidding...kind of...
If doing kapton i'd follow supras technique closely. Your in uncharted territory there...i'd prefer a arctic or rosewill with a larger base
Amaximus
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I am sure everyday you wake up you are proven wrong. I am sure you are a fucktard troll. Now go crawl back into the fucking hole you were birthed from.
PSUAGRO.
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blast from the past.........how's life treating ya?
JimmyIndica
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I don't know if any of these ship to uk? Optic Lighting or Amare Tech or RapidLED
Amaximus
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Hey Hey, Psu. Lifes been a bit of a bitch since the storm. But it's been getting better, just at a slower pace then I would like. I've only just recently started jumping back onto the forums. To say I'm confused by all the new tech would be an understatement. I just cant wrap my mind around the cobs yet. Seems so complicated and the money spent on materials looks like you'll reinvest with your time to assemble the unit. I'll pass on that. So I guess I'm just waiting on a new panel to buy and get back into the mix.
How you been? I posted something a few weeks back but didnt see any of the old regulars... And kinda just tucked my head again. lol.
PSUAGRO.
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I'm good........sounds like your back on your feet and ready to grow.
A51 new gear should cover your cob needs without getting your hands dirty.
Stay safe and dry
medicinehuman
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Hans is in your area, don't know if you thought of this or not.
bigskinz
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hi im new 2 this site and still trying 2 figure it out and would greatly appreciate it if u could point me in the rite direction of a not so expensive good set of led lights and some advice on colour or a site that could help?
mickey oneil
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There are a ton of variables that go into answering that question. What type of set up are you planning on using? Size of grow area? Budget? Size of grow (how many plants at one time)? Have you done any research on what you think is a quality buy? All things you need to factor in when asking for help. I would be glad to help, just need to provide a bit more info. You've def started out right by searching and reading the forums though.
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