transplanting from smart pots.

I was thinking these would be a good pot for me to buy when i remembered when i was germinating my seeds and the roots dug into the papertowel and i couldnt get them out without breaking the roots, so what im wondering is if my roots would do the same with this pot?
 

Budzbuddha

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These type of pots do a process called Air Pruning. These pots actually prevent roots from spiraling around and around in the container by nipping off the roots tip. This newly pruned root responds by branching, and root mass is increased. Oxygen is root mass is also increased using these " Breathable " fabric pots.

Also be aware that roots can protrude thru these type of pots.
 
These type of pots do a process called Air Pruning. These pots actually prevent roots from spiraling around and around in the container by nipping off the roots tip. This newly pruned root responds by branching, and root mass is increased. Oxygen is root mass is also increased using these " Breathable " fabric pots.

Also be aware that roots can protrude thru these type of pots.
So if they protrude wouldnt there be an issue transplanting into a larger plant?
 

Budzbuddha

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The only way I like doing is to set plant on a raised box or upside down bowl. Make sure are centered. Slowly roll or peel the pot down the sides. , go slowly. Once fabric is rolled all the way to bottom to expose full plug . Transplant into larger smart pot or other container.
 

xSwimToTheMoon

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The only way I like doing is to set plant on a raised box or upside down bowl. Make sure are centered. Slowly roll or peel the pot down the sides. , go slowly. Once fabric is rolled all the way to bottom to expose full plug . Transplant into larger smart pot or other container.
If you dont mind my asking, I've heard of people putting these in the washer. Is that true?

I would most likely use only a large one, and being able to store it cleanly would be awesome.
 
The only way I like doing is to set plant on a raised box or upside down bowl. Make sure are centered. Slowly roll or peel the pot down the sides. , go slowly. Once fabric is rolled all the way to bottom to expose full plug . Transplant into larger smart pot or other container.
But while ur rolling it down dont u think any embedded roots would just tear? Or do u have to tediously pull them out one by one?
 

tightpockt

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They definitely tear but I don't think it's that big of a deal. I use smart pots but just plant right to their final pot so no need to transplant. Also since the root mass is greater you can get away with using a smaller pot without having to transplant. I love them but at the end of the harvest trying to get the root ball out is like peeling back some tough ass velcro. If I were to transplant I would just run a long razor blade around the sides to losen them up.
 

borbor

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I'm a pretty new grower, but I've transplanted a number of plants in plastic pots, cannabis and otherwise, and I'm using smart pots right now.

I transplanted from one gallons into 5 gallons and a couple of 7 gallons. I probably overthought it and over-read it online regarding smart pots, and came across a lot of people saying they just bury the smart pot in the larger smart pot, while others said they just roll down the sides of the smart pot and transplant like normal. I first tried rolling down the smart pot on one of my largest plants, I was very worried by how much I was agitating the soil the whole time, and when I'd transplanted plants before, I'd seen roots all around the containers. the roots weren't very apparent in the smart pots. The scariest part, however, was that the bottom did have roots poking through, more than I thought, I guess, because it put up a real fight, the roots had a deathgrip on the bottom of the smartpot. When I finally got it off it almost sounded like velcro! Scared me to death. I finished up the transplant and decided to go with the burial method for the rest of my plants. I was surprised that there was very little apparent shock on the plant that I actually removed from its pot to transplant-if you check out my journal it's midnight kush in the back right of the tent. absolute beast! I moved her from a 1 gallon to a 7 gallon.

Edit:Just re-read some of the thread and noticed the guy right above me used the velcro analogy as well!

However, I have good faith that the burying method works as well. My starbud is my baby, the main event for my first real grow, carefully trained and vegged, I wasn't gonna rip her out of her pot like I did the first transplant! I buried her 1 gallon in a 7 gallon, and she's huge! there's no denying her roots are going all over the place in that 7-gallon pot. Others on the internet say that the sides of the pot, if buried, allow the roots to expand through, since they won't be air-pruned anymore. I was skeptical of that, but I convinced myself with some of my own logic. this is the bottom of a different plant, but shows my point. If you feel the bottom of a smart pot, it's exactly the same as the side. Same material, same thickness.
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So overall I think they're great and I'm probably gonna keep using them, The walls might slow down root growth a little if you bury them when you transplant them, but you might stress them a little more by removing them from their pots when you transplant them. Might just be a matter of personal preference, and if you've honed some mad smart pot transplant skills maybe you could remove the smaller pots with minimal stress.

EDIT:also, at the end of my grow, I plan on digging up the plants I don't reveg (if I reveg any), to examine the structure of the roots with the smart pot-barrier. I'll definitely take pics if it's remotely interesting.


I'd love to hear someone more experienced than I weigh in heavily on this.


there's one idea I had regarding the burial transplant method which I think could be awesome, but maybe not. If vertical height isn't as much a concern as saving on your square footage, then would it help to bury a pot halfway? more gallons of soil in less square footage stacked vertically, but would it work well if it was stepped like that? or would it confuse the rootball, if you know what I mean?
 
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ogreballerina

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Either cut the bag off or simply put the pot into a larger one.
Put several 7 gallon Geo pots into 20 gallon ones last summer...roots just grew right through the bag..
But for indoors I would just use a razor blade and cut them off.
Bags are cheap.
 

xSwimToTheMoon

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I'm a pretty new grower, but I've transplanted a number of plants in plastic pots, cannabis and otherwise, and I'm using smart pots right now.

I transplanted from one gallons into 5 gallons and a couple of 7 gallons. I probably overthought it and over-read it online regarding smart pots, and came across a lot of people saying they just bury the smart pot in the larger smart pot, while others said they just roll down the sides of the smart pot and transplant like normal. I first tried rolling down the smart pot on one of my largest plants, I was very worried by how much I was agitating the soil the whole time, and when I'd transplanted plants before, I'd seen roots all around the containers. the roots weren't very apparent in the smart pots. The scariest part, however, was that the bottom did have roots poking through, more than I thought, I guess, because it put up a real fight, the roots had a deathgrip on the bottom of the smartpot. When I finally got it off it almost sounded like velcro! Scared me to death. I finished up the transplant and decided to go with the burial method for the rest of my plants. I was surprised that there was very little apparent shock on the plant that I actually removed from its pot to transplant-if you check out my journal it's midnight kush in the back right of the tent. absolute beast! I moved her from a 1 gallon to a 7 gallon.

Edit:Just re-read some of the thread and noticed the guy right above me used the velcro analogy as well!

However, I have good faith that the burying method works as well. My starbud is my baby, the main event for my first real grow, carefully trained and vegged, I wasn't gonna rip her out of her pot like I did the first transplant! I buried her 1 gallon in a 7 gallon, and she's huge! there's no denying her roots are going all over the place in that 7-gallon pot. Others on the internet say that the sides of the pot, if buried, allow the roots to expand through, since they won't be air-pruned anymore. I was skeptical of that, but I convinced myself with some of my own logic. this is the bottom of a different plant, but shows my point. If you feel the bottom of a smart pot, it's exactly the same as the side. Same material, same thickness.
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So overall I think they're great and I'm probably gonna keep using them, The walls might slow down root growth a little if you bury them when you transplant them, but you might stress them a little more by removing them from their pots when you transplant them. Might just be a matter of personal preference, and if you've honed some mad smart pot transplant skills maybe you could remove the smaller pots with minimal stress.

EDIT:also, at the end of my grow, I plan on digging up the plants I don't reveg (if I reveg any), to examine the structure of the roots with the smart pot-barrier. I'll definitely take pics if it's remotely interesting.


I'd love to hear someone more experienced than I weigh in heavily on this.


there's one idea I had regarding the burial transplant method which I think could be awesome, but maybe not. If vertical height isn't as much a concern as saving on your square footage, then would it help to bury a pot halfway? more gallons of soil in less square footage stacked vertically, but would it work well if it was stepped like that? or would it confuse the rootball, if you know what I mean?
Im interested in seeing those pictures, if you decide to take them.

You guys have me all jazzed on smart pots Lol.
 

Budzbuddha

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You can create your own AERO POT / SMART POT.

I used common plastic pots ( 3 gallon ) drilled 1 1/2 " holes around sides.
( I also drilled multiple small drain holes on pot bottom )
Then I bought 4 Walmart reuseable shopping bags ( .60 cents each )
Here you will have 2 options.

Option 1. :
Line a regular plastic pot with bag ( intact )

Option 2 :
Cut bottoms out of bags / line pot sides with bag and secure top with zip ties around collar. Trim excess material.

Note : this breathable material is similar to smart pot material and garden felt.
Save money and use these , they work.
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Budzbuddha

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Also a slight rinse of Hydrogen peroxide with water wouldn't hurt either.
I use 1 part to 4 part water in a small bucket , soak and swirl around let dry.
It is always recommended to properly clean any containers you plan to reuse .
 
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