JD_85
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does the recycled super soil work well? this will be first time ive seen scrog in S.S. always been curious though. this will be good ! how long ago were they transplanted ?
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Midwest Weedist
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Well I've never used hydro, so I can't speak for it. Though I do have a local buddy who recently switched to Organics from hydro haha. I absolutely love it though. I water with plain water, aloe vera, seed sprout teas, and the occasional compost tea (though I've done water only and hit .8 grams per watt). Super soil works best with the no-till method in my opinion.
Midwest Weedist
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Have you ever browsed through the rols thread in the Organics section? There's been a couple of people who've posted about yield I believe. I've thought about starting a journal but I don't have the time.
Midwest Weedist
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It's massive, but it's a gold mine of information!
Humanrob
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This thread needs more pictures!
First scrog (first grow, actually...), day 18 of flower, 100% CFLs. Sorry about the strange alien coloration, not sure what's up with my phone/camera. My initial goal was to veg them as long as possible, and I've learned a lot about how much space a plant needs... will do it differently next time.
This is a Platinum GSC that shot up so fast after starting 12/12 I had to do some drastic work to get it back under the string (went with a spiral formation). It's recovering well, kind of hard to tell from the pic, but all things considered it seems healthy.
This is a Casey Jones
Close up of the CJ
I'm setting up to do an outdoor scrog this summer, to keep two girls total height under the six foot fence. That'll be in a small greenhouse built just for them.
First scrog (first grow, actually...), day 18 of flower, 100% CFLs. Sorry about the strange alien coloration, not sure what's up with my phone/camera. My initial goal was to veg them as long as possible, and I've learned a lot about how much space a plant needs... will do it differently next time.
This is a Platinum GSC that shot up so fast after starting 12/12 I had to do some drastic work to get it back under the string (went with a spiral formation). It's recovering well, kind of hard to tell from the pic, but all things considered it seems healthy.
This is a Casey Jones
Close up of the CJ
I'm setting up to do an outdoor scrog this summer, to keep two girls total height under the six foot fence. That'll be in a small greenhouse built just for them.
Midwest Weedist
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A cfl scrog, I dig it!!
Humanrob
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Thanks.
The theory was to exploit the limited light penetration of CFLs by keeping the leaf density in as flat a plane as possible, mirrored by a flat panel of CFLs. Yeah, I'm definitely learning a lot about theory vs practice, but its all been fun so far. The theory worked very well during the training period, but then things got a bit dicey when I switched to 12/12 and the plants got erratically happy. They chose not to cooperate with my plan after that. And yes, I am attributing sentience to them. 
Midwest Weedist
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Lmao they definitely feel sentient most days. That two week stretch during flower is always funny to watch. My first grow I almost shit when this sativa I had tripled it's height in a month and a half of flower. Fun stuff!Thanks.
IIGHOSTII
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Hey everyone. I saw a post on here saying "we need more pics on this thread" so I thought I would share my micro SCROG grow in a pc. It's turning out really nice so far. I'm 1 week an 4 days into flower as of today. Let me know what u think. The last pic is what it looked liked the first day I put her in the pc.
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Humanrob
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Man, my hat's off to the truly micro growers! That is a serious challenge. If you scrogged it aggressively initially, my experience is that it would have ended out stretching up the outer edges and been really difficult to control in the limited space. By letting it breach the screen and then LSTing back to the screen, you sort of avoided that. Very cool. In my case I had a bit more room horizontally but in a different scale, have issues vertically, and my solution was to spiral the plant under the screen.
I'm curious if this is the first time you've done a PC grow? My concern (as a newbie) would be running out of vertical space, so I'm curious if you can anticipate that that won't happen?
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IIGHOSTII
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well I'm not a newbie but it is my first time trying out a PC so I guess I'm a newbie at PC grows. I've done a few SCROG grows in the past but never in such a small space. Initially I only wanted to veg it in the PC for a week then flip it over to flower. It took her 5-6 days to come out of shock so I decided to veg a lil longer and I think I might regret that. I'm only a week into flower an im starting to run out of room. I still have about a week or 2 to go till she stops stretching so yea I'm a little concerned about that. You can't really tell in the pics but I have about 4-5inches from the canopy to the lights so not exspecting nothing huge to come from her. This is my lil side project so not too concerned about it, I guess u can say this is a test run. Its turning out better than I expected it would so I'm happy with it so far.
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Humanrob
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This gets into territory that is interesting and currently relevant to me, specifically, how much can we train the plants when they are in flower. With mine, I'm finding that the stems are getting thicker and less pliable, and its becoming increasingly difficult to coerce them into growing where I want them to. There seems to be a point where you just have to let them go where they're going. In very early flower (the first two weeks), I was able to keep training them though. That became critical after their first big early-flower growth surge.
Midwest Weedist
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After a certain point training in flower does nothing, unless you're training out of necessity (like vertical height). With strains that are pure or almost pure sativa, you'll end up with a mess of tiny budsites that make fluff instead of colas if you train to far into flower.
Humanrob
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Yeah, I was totally thinking of necessity, like one branch that shoots up way past all the others forcing the light up and away from 90% of the plant. So far in my set-up I've been lucky and the ones that shoot have been at the edges, so I've been able to reposition the lights so that those just grow around and past them. Not good for those particular buds, but in the best interest of the collective. Again, this whole dance is mostly because I'm using CFLs and proximity is such a issue.
As far as "fluff instead of colas" -- I'll find out in about 6 more weeks (I hope! maybe longer...?). It was a Sativa dominant plant (as I understand it) that I had to retrain two weeks into flower. Live and learn.
IIGHOSTII
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Mine is chocolope haze which is sativa Dominant. I really like this strain/pheno type. It's a strong an hardy strain. Never really had any defiecences or problems with her. Once in full bloom she loves lots of nutes tho. I'll feed her 3 times then use just plain water then feed 3x then water ect. She seems to like it that way. All in all im really happy the way she's turning out. Can't wait to see what I pull from her in such a small space.Yeah, I was totally thinking of necessity, like one branch that shoots up way past all the others forcing the light up and away from 90% of the plant. So far in my set-up I've been lucky and the ones that shoot have been at the edges, so I've been able to reposition the lights so that those just grow around and past them. Not good for those particular buds, but in the best interest of the collective. Again, this whole dance is mostly because I'm using CFLs and proximity is such a issue.
As far as "fluff instead of colas" -- I'll find out in about 6 more weeks (I hope! maybe longer...?). It was a Sativa dominant plant (as I understand it) that I had to retrain two weeks into flower. Live and learn.
Midwest Weedist
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Haha I love seeing pictures of peoples scrogs with that one tall ass pike sticking out in the middle like "Heyyy, look at me!!“Yeah, I was totally thinking of necessity, like one branch that shoots up way past all the others forcing the light up and away from 90% of the plant. So far in my set-up I've been lucky and the ones that shoot have been at the edges, so I've been able to reposition the lights so that those just grow around and past them. Not good for those particular buds, but in the best interest of the collective. Again, this whole dance is mostly because I'm using CFLs and proximity is such a issue.
As far as "fluff instead of colas" -- I'll find out in about 6 more weeks (I hope! maybe longer...?). It was a Sativa dominant plant (as I understand it) that I had to retrain two weeks into flower. Live and learn.
Unless you're growing something like a columbian gold, you'll be fine as far as getting fluff. I had a columbian gold lady that I trained around her planter and ran out of room vertically so I just kept training her all that way into the first 5 weeks of flower (she flowers for ~12+). I ended up with some decent colas and a canopy of fluffy buds because I had to lay a lot of main colas down.
It's hard to see but this is the best picture I had of it. A lot of the buds in the middle tried to become their own colas but just ended up putting out tiny fluffy nugs. This was about 7 weeks in I think. The trichome production was never effected but it definitely cherry picked which sites bulked up
Humanrob
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Wow! That is some radical training! But really, how could you go wrong feeding the girl donut glaze?
The idea of flowering for 12 weeks... that'd be a long haul. I like the way you perferated the pot, I think I'll do that with some of my indoor pots b4 the next grow.
What kind of light was that under?
greatbranch
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Awwww. I just wanna pinch its little cheeks!
