My First Grow

[IAreRobLowe]

Hey everybody, so i have recently decided that i should stop spending money on bud and just grow it myself, especially since i grow my own veggies anyway. I went all out and bought pretty much everything i think i need for a successful grow. My plants are currently under a Mars2 700W Led in smartpot containers with several oscillating fans in the room. I have a grow tent with intake and outtake fans but none of that has been used yet. I have to get a portable AC to regulate the shed which the tent is in as it its usually 88 degrees in the shed. So as of now they have been growing in a sealed room in my basement at about 75 degrees at 65% humidity. They are in Roots Organic soil that has mixed with some Alaska Humus. There is a slight super soil mix in the bottom of this pot but not in any of the smaller pots. I am going to test the smaller plants with the NFTG line and see how they compare.

Here are a few pictures of my oldest plant. It was planted April 25th. Not sure the strain on this one. A friend gave me this seed and didn't know. ( I do the the strains of my 8 smaller plants though)

 

[phil k]

everything is looking decent..... some small issues....see the leafe curls your getting? .. your dooping a lot so your soil isn't fully drying between waters. are you feeding any nutrients at all in your water? i see our using a super soil nd roots.. are you ph balancing your water you feed the reason i ask is your edges of the leaves are curling.. sometimes thats from mixing hot soils sometimes it comes from salt build up from chemical feeding.. and sometimes its just heat but yours is slightly excessive. so thats why i ask if you have been feeding food in your waterings?

 

[IAreRobLowe]

I have been feeding the plants nutrients. They been getting the Nectar for the Gods organic line. I tend to water every 4 days or so. I always make sure to ph balance using RO water.

 

[SPLFreak808]

everything is looking decent..... some small issues....see the leafe curls your getting? .. your dooping a lot so your soil isn't fully drying between waters. are you feeding any nutrients at all in your water? i see our using a super soil nd roots.. are you ph balancing your water you feed the reason i ask is your edges of the leaves are curling.. sometimes thats from mixing hot soils sometimes it comes from salt build up from chemical feeding.. and sometimes its just heat but yours is slightly excessive. so thats why i ask if you have been feeding food in your waterings?

Does he really have to PH the water with organic soil+organic amendments? I have never had a lockout in my soils

 

[phil k]

your creating salt build up stop feeding.. your using roots soil which has food.. a hot soil which has a shit load of food and your feeding.. makes sense now why your leaves look that way. i assumed you were feeding chemicals as well.. you need to choose one or the other especially in veg your plants don't require nutrients in excess like that.. you need to get onto a once a week feed schedule and depending on what your using hot soil wise you really need to decided what you are going to do.. either use chemicals or use amended soils. using both create salt build ups.. burns and shit you can see all the issues happening on the plant

 

[phil k]

Does he really have to PH the water with organic soil+organic amendments? I have never had a lockout in my soils

to each his own.. i would never not ph balance.. but I'm anal i want my plants perfect from head to toe. and yes if you actually pay attention to what ph stress is and what it really looks like there are issues you will see from high or low ph levels.

 

[phil k]

burns occur that people think is magnesium nd all this other shit.. leaves curl when its too sweet.. or too high.. i never touch chemicals ever.. i would never not ph balance my water.. unless I'm using tap water and in most cases thats 7.2 or that range.. so your fine generally with tap water.. but filtered water comes out sometimes at 7.6+ some times so yeah i don't get why people don't ph balance the water they feed their plants..

 

[IAreRobLowe]

Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I will stop feeding this plant nutes since it has the super soil. I will give the nutes to the 1 week old plants instead since they are not going in a super soil

 

[phil k]

it really all comes to soggy soils and shit too.. you can feed fucking 4.5 to your plants as long as your media ph is neutral or ph balanced. the media once dry will go back to the original ph state.. but if the soils not fully drying and your feeding acidic water the plants are always in acidic media

 

[IAreRobLowe]

I will compare the results I get between the super soil plant vs the NFTG fed plants. I'm going to mainline the non super soil plants and see how that turns out. Also, I'm not sure if the pictured plant is a male or female yet, so it may end up getting tossed. All of the 1 week old plants are feminized.

 

[phil k]

thats what people get wrong about soil growing. everyone says ph doesnt matter but it does, those that say it doesnt matter generally are using tap water or other filtered water thats in the ph range we grow in but if your water ph isn't in the range and your soils not drying your ph is really vital.. but still its vital..IMOP i know theres people on here that will argue that but i see it day in and day out with growers ..

 

[phil k]

I will compare the results I get between the super soil plant vs the NFTG fed plants. I'm going to mainline the non super soil plants and see how that turns out. Also, I'm not sure if the pictured plant is a male or female yet, so it may end up getting tossed. All of the 1 week old plants are feminized.

well just leave them trust me if you've been feeding and you planted them in roots and you planted them in super soil theres so much excess food.. just stop trying to make major changes and fix whats broke.... for the next two weeks i wouldn't do shit other than water plain drinking water you yourself would drink.. DONT PUT ANYTHING IN IT... just let your plants dink clean water... then after the two weeks start back on a feed schedule and only feed all the feed on monday and any waterings after that day you need to water pure clean water.

 

[IAreRobLowe]

Well I pH anyway. It only takes a few extra minutes so it's no sweat off my back to do it. I would rather be safe than sorry

 

[phil k]

keep them in veg the two weeks of fresh water will straighten all the issues out.. i promise you.. then go into flower or whatever you want but don't change anything just stop feeding so much

 

[phil k]

Well I pH anyway. It only takes a few extra minutes so it's no see off my back to do it. I would rather be safe than sorry

absolutely thats always my point !!

 

[IAreRobLowe]

well just leave them trust me if you've been feeding and you planted them in roots and you planted them in super soil theres so much excess food.. just stop trying to make major changes and fix whats broke.... for the next two weeks i wouldn't do shit other than water plain drinking water you yourself would drink.. DONT PUT ANYTHING IN IT... just let your plants dink clean water... then after the two weeks start back on a feed schedule and only feed all the feed on monday and any waterings after that day you need to water pure clean water.

Gotcha. Will do

 

[IAreRobLowe]

keep them in veg the two weeks of fresh water will straighten all the issues out.. i promise you.. then go into flower or whatever you want but don't change anything just stop feeding so much

I actually plan on vegging a bit longer than that. I'm in no rush. I'm going to let the smaller plants get to a good size and flower them all together

 

[phil k]

cool so do what i said serious as a heart attack don't freaking feed them they are fine... just water.. you shouldn't be feeding anything in veg when you use a supersoil.. just water... theres enough food in the soil for them.especially when you mix roots and a super soil.. thats a lot of excess food for them. so just water them they will perk up generally 1 week after you start the water only regimen the curl will subside... then the next week you'll see the massive change take place in the health..

are you in the states?

 

[IAreRobLowe]

Yeah I'm in the states. I'm in DC

 

[SPLFreak808]

thats what people get wrong about soil growing. everyone says ph doesnt matter but it does, those that say it doesnt matter generally are using tap water or other filtered water thats in the ph range we grow in but if your water ph isn't in the range and your soils not drying your ph is really vital.. but still its vital..IMOP i know theres people on here that will argue that but i see it day in and day out with growers ..

If it helps any, i water with a ph of 8 (hawaiian tap) and never had any lockouts since. I will not post links or argue, because it really comes down to knowing you're soil. Nothing wrong with PH'ing the water if the soil cant buffer it. Careful though, more microlife = more acidic soil = ph cant climb back up in time because the water was PHe"d down (asuming the micro-life didnt get cooked by h202/synthetics) its a game of tug-o-war when ball parking the water to match the soil. If the soil isnt buffered enough then yes, you should ph or get true organic soil made for MJ. There is no short answer to a quick question like that except for using 6.8 ph balanced soil and water that isnt more then 2 points off. If lockout still exist, something is wrong with the soil (dead/defective) or water.