Help on diagnosing problem in first ever Grow...

Mad_Prophessor

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Get yourself some sticky strips to keep in the garden. They are not for just catching the bugs to get rid of them, they are to identify if and what kind of infestation you may have. Always keep them in your tent just to see if/when there is a problem before it gets serious.

These are cheap and work as good as any I have every tried:
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-Sticky-Traps

I am not saying it is a pest issue, I am with the others on the Cal-Mag as being the root. As has been stated, the affected leaves will not recover. The new growth will not exhibit the same signs, but the damaged leaves will not recover. They are not so sick that they hurt her and you should still leave them on until the plant is ready to get rid of them. It can still use them.
 

Budzbuddha

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Piece of advice :
If your GIRL has bugs in her BUSH , you may wanna get checked.

We're talking about plants right ? .... Just sayin
 

beppe75

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Get yourself some sticky strips to keep in the garden. They are not for just catching the bugs to get rid of them, they are to identify if and what kind of infestation you may have. Always keep them in your tent just to see if/when there is a problem before it gets serious.

These are cheap and work as good as any I have every tried:
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-Supply-Sticky-Traps

I am not saying it is a pest issue, I am with the others on the Cal-Mag as being the root. As has been stated, the affected leaves will not recover. The new growth will not exhibit the same signs, but the damaged leaves will not recover. They are not so sick that they hurt her and you should still leave them on until the plant is ready to get rid of them. It can still use them.
Thanks for the advice man...i'm going to use this sticky strips and see if there is any bug infestation going on or just a stress/CalMag problem.
what would you people choose between ANutrient Revive(the only one similar to a proper calmag supplement i can find where i live...it's got 1% Nitrogen, 1% Cal and %Mag...)or should i go with the canna mono Cal 15% and Mag 8% i'm leaning for the canna products...
 

beppe75

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Piece of advice :
If your GIRL has bugs in her BUSH , you may wanna get checked.

We're talking about plants right ? .... Just sayin
I don't know what kind of BUSHES you are used to man but i am used to sweet,clean and good smelling ones and i'm talking about GIRLS
Anyway...
if you have a better piece of advice you are welcome to post it...
if you don't... have a nice day anyway.
 

ISK

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I use Botanicare CAL-MAG Plus (1 mg / litre) but this may vary depending on your water source

not saying this is the best product out there, just saying it has done me well
 

beppe75

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I use Botanicare CAL-MAG Plus (1 mg / litre) but this may vary depending on your water source

not saying this is the best product out there, just saying it has done me well
I would have bought this ISK but it just isn't avaliable where i live...i searched everywhere and no shop (even online) has this in EU. at least i could not find it.
i have to find some alternative ... i found revive but as you see it has low % of calcium and magnesium so i will probably give the Canna coco mono supplements of Cal and Mag a try...
 
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Mad_Prophessor

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Check out Blue Planet Nutrients. I use them for everything and their organic line is awesome. My girls love it. They also have liquid seaweed.
 

Mad_Prophessor

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Thanks for the advice man...i'm going to use this sticky strips and see if there is any bug infestation going on or just a stress/CalMag problem.
what would you people choose between ANutrient Revive(the only one similar to a proper calmag supplement i can find where i live...it's got 1% Nitrogen, 1% Cal and %Mag...)or should i go with the canna mono Cal 15% and Mag 8% i'm leaning for the canna products...
The strips are always a good idea just for the monitoring side alone.
 

beppe75

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time for an update... i waited to water the girls for two days(wanted to wait more but they begin to show yellowing on upper part of the plant and the necrosis which has never gone away began to affect new growth also some of the older fan leaves are doing worse in that regard as you can see. this is the slowest of the two and the one which is showing more problems...DSC_1331.JPG

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now the one which is doing better overall and is not affected that much by these necrosis or bug or deficiency problems...
i am really confused now of what it maybe... i searched a lot and tried to go backwards to recall smth that can illuminate me...DSC_1332.JPG DSC_1337.JPG
you can see the top growth is much more developed and healthy in this one...

now... i was thinking since the slower of the two(the first one) had a less developed root system when i transplanted maybe it is being affected more because she can't uptake nutes like the other one, and lets say there is a slight need to supplement with cal-mag (which i have ordered by the way, should be here this week) the healthier root system is capable of sucking the amount of cal-mag i'm feeding better than the slower girl... does that :confused:make sense?:confused:
i don't see it being ph issue...i'm feeding 5.7-5.9 ph and getting 5.9-6.2 ph on the runoff consistently even though my runoff says 285ppm when i feed 650ppm water???
can it be over fertilization, do you guys recommend a Flush?
i thought it was not necessary until now...???
Big Thank You for your help.
 

Mad_Prophessor

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Deep ridges is usually nitrogen. They should work themselves out, but don't over do it trying to get them right. It may be an issue with your medium.
 

beppe75

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overall she is growing albeit slowly it looks to me...she is slimmer and a little bit less bushy..
whole plant foto.
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pics of healthier girl(the one which was better from the begining)... which is showing less new damage
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this is obviously healthier and there it is a whole pic.
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if syntoms persist i plan to flush with some floranectar and feed them good after they have dried for about three days... i should have got my cal-mag by then and lets see if it works... i want them to enter flower as healthy as they can...
thanks for helping guys.
 

beppe75

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update ....
i really don't know what to think... this problem is persisting and i feel like it will compromise my eventual yield if i don't get it right asap...
the girls have grown a little but all the new growth has been showing issues
i'm linking the other thread in an attempt to sort out what maybe causing this necrosis and leaf twisting issues...
help me please to sort this out...i wanted to flower in a few days but first i wanted to get the babies as healthy as i can...
this is the link with all the infos...

http://rollitup.org/t/first-grow-unhealthy-babies-and-help-is-needed.870699/
 
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ISK

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update ....
i really don't know what to think... this problem is persisting and i feel like it will compromise my eventual yield if i don't get it right asap...
the girls have grown a little but all the new growth has been showing issues
i'm linking the other thread in an attempt to sort out what maybe causing this necrosis and leaf twisting issues...
help me please to sort this out...i wanted to flower in a few days but first i wanted to get the babies as healthy as i can...
this is the link with all the infos...

http://rollitup.org/t/first-grow-unhealthy-babies-and-help-is-needed.870699/
all in all, they don't look that bad, so whatever is the issue, it's not going to make or break the finial outcome.

I still see cut leaves and holes, which tells me some kind of critter, insect, bird, fish, roommate, ghost or fucking aliens from hell...something is eating your plants
 

beppe75

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hahaha...fucking aliens,thanks isk .

this is how i found the this morning...

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and some damage from the once healthier plant(now she is definitely showing more problems and slower growth) this is all in new growth...DSC_1353.JPG DSC_1357.JPG DSC_1354.JPG
i would like to see smth similar but have searched the hell out of the web and haven't found anything similar yet... i guess i'll have to experiment and see what works and what does not...
 
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beppe75

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here is un update ... i flushed 3days before and fed slightly weaker nutes yesterday, after two days ...ph @ 6.00 and runoff came a little low on 5.45 ph in one and 5.65 on the other...
they drank like never before i fed them 2.5l each with smth like 15% runoff.they looked like this before lights got down today...
 

beppe75

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here is un update ... i flushed 3days before and fed slightly weaker nutes yesterday, after two days ...ph @ 6.00 and runoff came a little low on 5.45 ph in one and 5.65 on the other...
they drank like never before i fed them 2.5l each with smth like 15% runoff.ùthey looked like this before lights got down today...

second girl...
both of them...

i don't see any improvement from the flush...
i wanted to start 12/12 today even though ideally i would have liked to wait...this is not possible because i need them to finish in the next 60-63 days... breeder says they are ready in 60 days so lets hove they flower fast.
i saw some pistils a few days ago from preflowers , that means they are ready in theory...even though they already have turned brown... new ones will pop up...
i reaaly hope these syntomps clear up with the flowering schedule...
thats all.
 

beppe75

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Hello You all guys...
i have not posted in a while here...
i've mostly posted in this thread :
http://rollitup.org/t/first-grow-unhealthy-babies-and-help-is-needed.870699/page-3#post-11687996
because i was getting more help over there...
anyway today....

i need some help asap please...
i have experienced a problem with the babies.... if anyone is willing to help is welcome...
i have been working literally 18h per day lately and i let them dry a little to much...
i recall i am growing in 3.5 gallon coco hempys but they went 5 days without water... i did not notice any signs of underwatering but two days ago i saw what looked like a nute burn to me...last feeding was 5 days ago and i fed them a 850ppm nutrient solution of GH Flora series of 10ml Micro+8ml Grow+13ml Bloom...it was the last transition feeding planned and today i wanted to feed full bloom nutes of 10ml M+5ml G+ 15ml Bloom but instead since i noticed this signs...look @ the borders of the leaves...
it looks like over ferilization to me... but i am no expert and it maybe something else....


i reduced today feeding @ 430 ppm like 50% strength....
now, i don't know what this maybe so.... i'm asking for some HELP...
maybe i should flush them again with some good ph-ed RO water to clean everything up and then start feed full bloom nutes but i don't know so i'm open to advise...
some overall foto of may canopy and my scrog attempt... which could have been better but since this is my first grow i'm just learning first hand what growing and scroging is in practice.

i did some defoliation but i think i'll need some more in the next days ... i just need them to be happy first before i stress them by chopping their leaves.
Last question is...
Is it normal for pistils to turn brown while the plant is in flower and the buds are forming?
i see that in some of my flowers ,pistils , are turning brown... like they were also burned... could this happen?
What cause this?

Thank u all.
 
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