Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

JellyJaguar

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Pretty close (keep in mind the beauty of this system is its customization possibilities). The sprayers are normally between the net cups. And the drain should be at the end of the rail so it can gravity drain from the slightly higher end.

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Ok that's what I was missing thank you very much :) and yeah that makes more sense I was trying to figure out whey the pipes went down on the sides this makes more sense.
 

WeedFreak78

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Just wanted to say THANKS Stinkbud!
First clone run, 12days = 100% success, I'm under the gun to finish the flowering system now! I think i can get it down to 7-10 days, i had some mistakes. I unplugged it, forgot to plug it back in and it sat like that for something close to 12-14 hrs. They dried up a little and got droopy, but perked right up within a couple hours once i plugged it in, that probably set them back a day or so... I also was only adjusting ph down to 5.8-6.0, but it would drift up to 7.0-7.5 pretty quick. Once i started going down to 5.2ish It seemed to be callousing up quicker. I read the more acidic solution helps root development, I'm wondering if dropping below 5.0 initially, knowing it will drift up, would be beneficial? I need more room and more $$ so i can do some mad scientist experiments..MUahhhahahah!!
 

letdown shifty

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Bit of a update.
Started germination on 4 new seeds, that will go into cloner on Saturday night. When I move other 4 to veg unit.
1 - Delicious seeds, Sugar Black Rose (nothing new here)
1 - Dinafem, White Widow
1 - Dinafem, Purple Afghan Kush
1 - Royal Queen, Blue Cheese
Changed out the MH/HPS light unit for a T5HO with AgroMax 4 PurePar veg bulbs / 1 UV-A blub / 1 10,000K finisher. Did this cause of some heat issues in the tent, but also working on getting the tents a.c.. Also, did some ghetto style CO2 using sugar & yeast. Have it tuned right to plants, will get proper equipment when I get money.
-Shifty
 

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StinkBud

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Just wanted to say THANKS Stinkbud!
First clone run, 12days = 100% success, I'm under the gun to finish the flowering system now! I think i can get it down to 7-10 days, i had some mistakes. I unplugged it, forgot to plug it back in and it sat like that for something close to 12-14 hrs. They dried up a little and got droopy, but perked right up within a couple hours once i plugged it in, that probably set them back a day or so... I also was only adjusting ph down to 5.8-6.0, but it would drift up to 7.0-7.5 pretty quick. Once i started going down to 5.2ish It seemed to be callousing up quicker. I read the more acidic solution helps root development, I'm wondering if dropping below 5.0 initially, knowing it will drift up, would be beneficial? I need more room and more $$ so i can do some mad scientist experiments..MUahhhahahah!!
12 days is great! People may debate different growing methods but everyone agrees that aerocloners are the way to go with cuttings. I've always had amazing success with my cloner and I'm stoked that it worked well for you too. As far as PH goes I wouldn't worry too much about having it exact. My experience has been that woody stem type plants like OG Kush and NYC Diesel take a long time to pop roots while softer/green stem plants pop in what seems like minutes. If fact one time I just showed my cloner to a Purple Wreck clone and it popped roots!

Don't forget to watch your room temps!!!
 

WeedFreak78

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12 days is great! People may debate different growing methods but everyone agrees that aerocloners are the way to go with cuttings. I've always had amazing success with my cloner and I'm stoked that it worked well for you too. As far as PH goes I wouldn't worry too much about having it exact. My experience has been that woody stem type plants like OG Kush and NYC Diesel take a long time to pop roots while softer/green stem plants pop in what seems like minutes. If fact one time I just showed my cloner to a Purple Wreck clone and it popped roots!

Don't forget to watch your room temps!!!
yup..my kush took about a day+ over the blueberry to pop roots, but most of the Kush were thicker cuts. The thicker cuts of both all seem to take a little longer ( more stored up nutes?). I was a little nervous running the blueberry, heard it was a finicky strain..but so far it's going smooth. Getting into the heart of summer I'm starting to have issues with heat..having trouble keeping my res below 72 in my veg ( room is around 80). I'm looking at mini splits or a chiller..just monitoring constantly and keeping my fingers crossed right now. I can control my flower room no prob,,it's just that i vent from flower into my veg then out so the heat builds in the veg area.
 

letdown shifty

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So switched out 4 plants yesterday from the cloner to the veg box, and introduced them to nutrients (botanicare kind). Is it normal for fan leaves to start drooping? No discoloration, or signs that say something is wrong. I flushed reservoir and made sure measurements/ph was correct.
-Shifty
 

WeedFreak78

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So switched out 4 plants yesterday from the cloner to the veg box, and introduced them to nutrients (botanicare kind). Is it normal for fan leaves to start drooping? No discoloration, or signs that say something is wrong. I flushed reservoir and made sure measurements/ph was correct.
-Shifty
I'm vegging right in the clone unit for about a week. i just added 1/4 strength nute and they did droop for 6 hours or so after adding it, but perked right up and shot up a good 1/2" overnight. I think it's just a little transition bump going back on nutes.
 

WeedFreak78

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OK so my roots are going crazy in my cloner..what are some tips for transplanting from one system to the next..I see roots getting damaged trying to get them out of a 2" hole and fed back into a 2" hole. I'm not exactly a finesse type of person..lol.
 

Veek da Freak

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The whole website/forum was a royal pain in the ass bro! There's at least a million other things I'd rather be doing than arguing over PPM vs EC! I try bro, but no matter how hard I try I just can't seem to give a fuck. It's all fine and dandy for the first couple of years but then it's just like being married without the sex but plenty of attitude because you didn't put the toilet seat down, so you put the fucking seat down and the next day you get bitched out because there's piss all over the seat and you're like, "well you told me to put the fucking seat down", and she's like, "well I meant bla bla bla something", whatever...
Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering. It is still up, but nobody goes there anymore.
 

StinkBud

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So switched out 4 plants yesterday from the cloner to the veg box, and introduced them to nutrients (botanicare kind). Is it normal for fan leaves to start drooping? No discoloration, or signs that say something is wrong. I flushed reservoir and made sure measurements/ph was correct.
-Shifty
I wouldn't worry bro. It's just the salts in the nutrients that causes it. They should be fine in a day. If not reduce the nutes a little.
 

StinkBud

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OK so my roots are going crazy in my cloner..what are some tips for transplanting from one system to the next..I see roots getting damaged trying to get them out of a 2" hole and fed back into a 2" hole. I'm not exactly a finesse type of person..lol.
The only thing you have to worry about roots is leaving pieces in the water. As long as you get the plant out it will be okay. I've had to rip plants out of my veg unit with no ill effects.
 

letdown shifty

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I wouldn't worry bro. It's just the salts in the nutrients that causes it. They should be fine in a day. If not reduce the nutes a little.
Thanks for input Stinkbud. Only 3 of them seem to be effected, the Pineapple Kush is fucking loving the Nutrients. Not sure if the others fan leaves will recover, but good news is lots of top growth happening and color still looks good. When I had flushed the reservoir I dialed back the Nutrients just in case. Running it at 3ml base & 6ml grow per gallon, instead of 5ml & 8ml.
Light on photo & Light off photo from in tent camera.

-Shifty
 

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letdown shifty

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Well fan leaves have started turning yellow on the 3 little ones. As a first time grower, can't help but worry about them. As I don't want to lose them, crossing my fingers that it doesn't get much worse.
-Shifty

Edit: ordered some Hydroguard, just in case it's the start of root rot.
 
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WeedFreak78

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Well fan leaves have started turning yellow on the 3 little ones. As a first time grower, can't help but worry about them. As I don't want to lose them, crossing my fingers that it doesn't get much worse.
-Shifty

Edit: ordered some Hydroguard, just in case it's the start of root rot.
Is it fan leaves or the cotyledons? How much are you feeding them? Mine started yellowing, i was underfeeding them. I've been so cautious of overfeeding i always go a little less then recommended and add more if needed. I was around 400-500ppm@.5 when mine were that big, once they start dropping roots they can take some nutes. My clones were on 1/4 strength veg as soon as i saw root bumps and then i had to bump it to 75% strength within 2 days because they were still yellowing, i saw inprovment eithin a couple hours, 24hrs after bumping it up they all are green and have 1/2" new growth. Dn't be too afraid to increase nutes, just a little at a time, it's easy enough to dilute the res if it's too much and the plants will recover fairly quick.

My res's run around 76 in veg and 72 in flower, i haven't had any root issues, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed, we're getting into the hottest part of the year. I've added airstones because of it..and am pushing quiet a bit of air to keep the solution well aerated..i have to dial it back or i start shredding roots. I'm dealing now, but starting to look at res cooling options for down the road.
 
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letdown shifty

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Is it fan leaves or the cotyledons? How much are you feeding them? Mine started yellowing, i was underfeeding them. I've been so cautious of overfeeding i always go a little less then recommended and add more if needed. I was around 400-500ppm@.5 when mine were that big, once they start dropping roots they can take some nutes. My clones were on 1/4 strength veg as soon as i saw root bumps and then i had to bump it to 75% strength within 2 days because they were still yellowing, i saw inprovment eithin a couple hours, 24hrs after bumping it up they all are green and have 1/2" new growth. Dn't be too afraid to increase nutes, just a little at a time, it's easy enough to dilute the res if it's too much and the plants will recover fairly quick.

My res's run around 76 in veg and 72 in flower, i haven't had any root issues, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed, we're getting into the hottest part of the year. I've added airstones because of it..and am pushing quiet a bit of air to keep the solution well aerated..i have to dial it back or i start shredding roots. I'm dealing now, but starting to look at res cooling options for down the road.
WeedFreak thanks for input. I'll throw some update pictures & numbers when I get over there today.
Also, yup fan leaves not cotelydons. I was under assumption those would keep shriveling up, but as long as rest of plant looked fine.
Reservoir size: 10 gallon
Nutrients: 30ml botanicare base & 60ml grow
PH has been running about 5.9
Put some frozen 2 liters in yesterday to lower water temp that was running mid 70s. Should I have airstones? I was under assumption that it wasn't needed.
-Shifty
 

WeedFreak78

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WeedFreak thanks for input. I'll throw some update pictures & numbers when I get over there today.
Also, yup fan leaves not cotelydons. I was under assumption those would keep shriveling up, but as long as rest of plant looked fine.
Reservoir size: 10 gallon
Nutrients: 30ml botanicare base & 60ml grow
PH has been running about 5.9
Put some frozen 2 liters in yesterday to lower water temp that was running mid 70s. Should I have airstones? I was under assumption that it wasn't needed.
-Shifty
Do you know the EC/ppm of your solution or does botanicare list what those mixing rates should be? Air stones really aren't need, but in my case they were able to drop my res temps an avg of about 5 degrees, went from around 80-82 down to 74-76 just by adding an air stone. I have my air pumps in an area where they are drawing air that stays under 70F
 
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