Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

letdown shifty

letdown shifty

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Darth Vapour said:
Curious on how many total plants ,he is using to make that pound ????? Cause i know when i did perpetual it was a shit load in all stages pulling out 3 pounds every 2 weeks was something like 700 clones 140 plants in veg and in all stages of weeks grown and 30 plants coming out of flower weekly with flower room loaded as well cause every week you adding 30 plants and pulling 30 plants
And in all honesty it was retarded hahaha..
your constantly working making clones , feeding , moving plants , and trimming and most importantly you have no life and within 6 months of doing this a person gets burnt the fuck out ..
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That just sounds like it would be painful for both mind and body. Too much work for just a single man to do, I applaud you for pulling it off for 6 months. I'm sure any monetary gain made you feel somewhat okay.
-Shifty
 
MouseE

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StinkBud said:
Are your cuttings in Rockwool?
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No, should they be? Thwyre in neoprene collars, i dont know the substabce they are bad out of but its a black form. (Edit: found pick of what I bought)

And death vapor the lb a week is for the legal limit in washington, which here is 15 plants. Although I believe there's a limit you can have on plants under 12" in height and length. Can anyone enlighten me though if we it's an unlimited amount of veg/clones/clippings we can have?

And meh, 15 plants is enough for me to give an endless supply to the girl who became my 2ndary are mother in high school who has had cancer basically her whole life and takes kemo. myself, as well as enough to pay running expensive and a little bit or profit to go into upgrading the system.
 

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letdown shifty

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Installed the Hydrofarm 400w MH/HPS today. It is running. an iPower MH veg bulb. Also, was a good day for the Critical Kush. It sprouted right up with the others. Changing out my lights in that 2'x4' tent changed my temp and humidity, currently holding steady at 88°/40% humidity. Should I be concerned? Waiting on some inline fans, so a couple box fans are doing the venting.
-Shifty
 

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MouseE said:
No, should they be? Thwyre in neoprene collars, i dont know the substabce they are bad out of but its a black form. (Edit: found pick of what I bought)

And death vapor the lb a week is for the legal limit in washington, which here is 15 plants. Although I believe there's a limit you can have on plants under 12" in height and length. Can anyone enlighten me though if we it's an unlimited amount of veg/clones/clippings we can have?

And meh, 15 plants is enough for me to give an endless supply to the girl who became my 2ndary are mother in high school who has had cancer basically her whole life and takes kemo. myself, as well as enough to pay running expensive and a little bit or profit to go into upgrading the system.
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In WA you can have 15 plants total, that's including clones. You can also only have a total of 45 plants per house (or 3 patient cards) In Oregon you can have 6 mature plants and 18 plants under 12". Maximum for Oregon is 24 mature plants (or 4 patient cards) per house. In another couple of weeks anyone can grow 4 plants per house. Oregon will become the next pot mecca in about 4 months!
 
StinkBud

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letdown shifty said:
Installed the Hydrofarm 400w MH/HPS today. It is running. an iPower MH veg bulb. Also, was a good day for the Critical Kush. It sprouted right up with the others. Changing out my lights in that 2'x4' tent changed my temp and humidity, currently holding steady at 88°/40% humidity. Should I be concerned? Waiting on some inline fans, so a couple box fans are doing the venting.
-Shifty
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Room temps need to stay under 78 degrees or you will end up with root rot. Of course you could always run a water chiller but personally I'd rather keep the room cool.
 
letdown shifty

letdown shifty

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StinkBud said:
Room temps need to stay under 78 degrees or you will end up with root rot. Of course you could always run a water chiller but personally I'd rather keep the room cool.
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Thanks for the input, that was my opinion to. Farted around with fans yesterday just getting it to settle where it was. Inline fans arrive today as well as cameras. So hopefully those move the air better, and get the temp to lower. Thinking eventually I wanna get those cameras to snap photos every 3hr or so, and make a stop photo movie of plant growth.
-shifty
 
ttystikk

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Darth Vapour said:
Curious on how many total plants ,he is using to make that pound ????? Cause i know when i did perpetual it was a shit load in all stages pulling out 3 pounds every 2 weeks was something like 700 clones 140 plants in veg and in all stages of weeks grown and 30 plants coming out of flower weekly with flower room loaded as well cause every week you adding 30 plants and pulling 30 plants
And in all honesty it was retarded hahaha..
your constantly working making clones , feeding , moving plants , and trimming and most importantly you have no life and within 6 months of doing this a person gets burnt the fuck out ..
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I pull 5 every two weeks and I absolutely don't work this hard! My total plant count is in the two digits, clones included (because unless you're under commercial/dispensary rules, clones count against your total).
 
ttystikk

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StinkBud said:
Room temps need to stay under 78 degrees or you will end up with root rot. Of course you could always run a water chiller but personally I'd rather keep the room cool.
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Following this advice will hurt your yield. The legend on the graph before is in degrees Celsius, and 30C = 86F;

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I like my grow room temps in the low eighties- and instead of getting a toy, my chillers are all 2 Tons or bigger- and they cool the water, the room and dehuey. In other words, they handle all the environmental control activities, and they do it more efficiently than AC.

Grow room temps in the low eighties puts my leaf temps in the light right at 85f, considered the optimal for yield on the chart. Notice that yield rises with more light, but only to a point; much past 1500 umol/cm² more light becomes counter productive and lower temps are better- as compensation for getting beamed, I'm guessing! I do cool the room into the upper seventies for the last week or two before chop.

If the choice is between leaving 15-20% of your yield on the table and getting a chiller, I say get the chiller! It's going to pay for itself very quickly indeed.
 
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letdown shifty

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ttystikk said:
Following this advice will hurt your yield. I like my grow room temps in the low eighties- and instead of getting a toy, my chillers are all 2 Tons or bigger- and they cool the water, the room and dehuey.

Grow room temps in the low eighties puts my leaf temps in the light right at 85f, considered the optimal for yield. I do cool the room into the upper seventies for the last week or two before chop.

If the choice is between leaving twenty percent of your yield on the table and getting a chiller, get the chiller. It's going to pay for itself very quickly indeed.
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ttystikk,
Thanks for input, reaon I ask on here is because doing research online brings up so many different how to's and lots of varying opinions. New to growing, and haven't really worked out my own system. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to kill the little ones. So, let's say I keep the tent temp in the low 80's. What is the appropriate water temp? Mid 60's? All input is appreciated, and will never be undervalued. Thanks
-Shifty
 
ttystikk

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letdown shifty said:
ttystikk,
Thanks for input, reaon I ask on here is because doing research online brings up so many different how to's and lots of varying opinions. New to growing, and haven't really worked out my own system. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to kill the little ones. So, let's say I keep the tent temp in the low 80's. What is the appropriate water temp? Mid 60's? All input is appreciated, and will never be undervalued. Thanks
-Shifty
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I've found that at least in RDWC temperatures can float in a fairly wide range. The upper limit is set by overall system health; strong systems can run as warm as 72f. I've noticed that as long as my water temps drop to 68 at least once every 24 hours (usually right before lights on), things stay happy and healthy. Plant metabolism begins to slow down as temps fall, so water in the fifties will slow growth.

Tents tend to run hot because of the enclosed space and reflected light. I'd shoot for 80f on the nose until you're comfortable with how your setup works. 85f might be optimal, but one foray into the nineties can Fuck up the whole run, especially if you have temperature sensitive strains.
 
MouseE

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StinkBud said:
Room temps need to stay under 78 degrees or you will end up with root rot. Of course you could always run a water chiller but personally I'd rather keep the room cool.
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I'm gonna prolly have to do a water chiller due to budget. Would you recommend something like this? http://growershouse.com/ecoplus-water-chiller-1-10hp?gclid=Cj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0pDfhsQguA6SPB0-7BvK-CkXXXhVvaCo6UaqH9Bq3UaAgoQ8P8HAQ ? Or something for the fans/upper air like this? http://growershouse.com/hydro-innovations-ice-box-8?gclid=Cj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU02pOmB-ZPiRcHk2CFXf0rdEvoo4f5dx0hbIe2qFJfcaAlDA8P8HAQ
 
ttystikk

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MouseE said:
I'm gonna prolly have to do a water chiller due to budget. Would you recommend something like this? http://growershouse.com/ecoplus-water-chiller-1-10hp?gclid=Cj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0pDfhsQguA6SPB0-7BvK-CkXXXhVvaCo6UaqH9Bq3UaAgoQ8P8HAQ ? Or something for the fans/upper air like this? http://growershouse.com/hydro-innovations-ice-box-8?gclid=Cj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU02pOmB-ZPiRcHk2CFXf0rdEvoo4f5dx0hbIe2qFJfcaAlDA8P8HAQ
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The first unit is a chiller, but it's tiny... get at least 1/3 hp. You do want it to keep up with the load easily. Insulating your reservoir, tubsites and lines will help a lot. I use 1" foil covered foam board panels with a hole cut in for the netpot.

That second item is not a chiller at all, it's just a heat exchanger; hook it up to a cold water source (a chiller!), blow air through it and it will cool your air. If the water is cold enough and the air humid enough, it will also condense water out of the air stream passing through it. Another way to use it is to pass HOT water through it, then suck air through the unit and you'll get room air heating. The thing to remember is that because it's just a glorified radiator, it will not do the whole cooling job by itself; it needs the cold water.

I've scaled up; instead of 1/4hp toys, my smallest chiller is 2 Tons (roughly 2.5 hp), and instead of 8" Icebox exchangers, my air handlers are made of box fans and junkyard radiators from old Volvos!

I run 4 Tons of cooling total, and it keeps up nicely with 12kW of HID lighting. That would not fly with standard AC.

Water chilling has more advantages too, but those generally only come into play for larger scale operations.
 
Darth Vapour

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ttystikk said:
I pull 5 every two weeks and I absolutely don't work this hard! My total plant count is in the two digits, clones included (because unless you're under commercial/dispensary rules, clones count against your total).
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i would like to see your flower room curious 5 pounds wet / dry 5 oz ?? i mean 25 pounds wet is a lot of weed how many plants does it take you to get 5 pounds ??? cause you need to be also putting that many in every two weeks but lets not forget with 5 pounds going out 5 pounds worthy of plants going in and as well literally double in veg to get them to that size let alone clones at the beginning lets not forget 1 -2 - 3 week veg plants are not going to give you a shit load of oz per plant then with the room comes the sog style of growing where again your only really harvesting top 1/3 of plant so you lose out there also

would love to see the 5 every 2 weeks pictures you got any ,, cause i it takes you 15 - 20- 30 plants to get your 5 pounds by the time first 15 - 20 - 30 is ready you should have 160 to 300 plants in veg alone plus plants if not more in flower room so when you really break it down lets say 170 plants in flower room its easy to say you got double that in veg from clones and different stages and pretty much double that in clone form ..
just saying You got any pictures ???
 
Darth Vapour

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MouseE said:
No, should they be? Thwyre in neoprene collars, i dont know the substabce they are bad out of but its a black form. (Edit: found pick of what I bought)

And death vapor the lb a week is for the legal limit in washington, which here is 15 plants. Although I believe there's a limit you can have on plants under 12" in height and length. Can anyone enlighten me though if we it's an unlimited amount of veg/clones/clippings we can have?

And meh, 15 plants is enough for me to give an endless supply to the girl who became my 2ndary are mother in high school who has had cancer basically her whole life and takes kemo. myself, as well as enough to pay running expensive and a little bit or profit to go into upgrading the system.
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That is what i am getting at if you got 15 plant limit your not going to be able to pull a pound a week and maintain a pound a week that is impossible no matter how you think of it ,, 15 plant max is 15 plant max lets say you veg 15 plants 5 weeks and flip 6 of em and keep vegging the others and week later you place couple more in flower no matter what you have to wait until some are chopped
plant count is plant count your not going to get huge yields from a 1 - 2 week vegged plant these types of systems like op is running are not designed for trees but more or less small sized plants so now you need lots of them cause there only going to harvest you who knows from grams to maybe 1/2 oz dry either way you really shake it these set ups are the bomb for clone machines not production and sure the fuck not with 400 watts or CFL's or what have you
 
MouseE

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Darth Vapour said:
That is what i am getting at if you got 15 plant limit your not going to be able to pull a pound a week and maintain a pound a week that is impossible no matter how you think of it ,, 15 plant max is 15 plant max lets say you veg 15 plants 5 weeks and flip 6 of em and keep vegging the others and week later you place couple more in flower no matter what you have to wait until some are chopped
plant count is plant count your not going to get huge yields from a 1 - 2 week vegged plant these types of systems like op is running are not designed for trees but more or less small sized plants so now you need lots of them cause there only going to harvest you who knows from grams to maybe 1/2 oz dry either way you really shake it these set ups are the bomb for clone machines not production and sure the fuck not with 400 watts or CFL's or what have you
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The op title says every 3 weeks. Imo just harvesting/trimming a lb every week would be a feat. The way in calculating it is let my plants veg for about a month, maybe a little longer, then get whole the start to finish 80-120days. Assuming I pull about quap dry from each plant that's a little under 4 lbs in a little over 3 months, meaning a little more than a lb a month.
 
MouseE

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ttystikk said:
The first unit is a chiller, but it's tiny... get at least 1/3 hp. You do want it to keep up with the load easily. Insulating your reservoir, tubsites and lines will help a lot. I use 1" foil covered foam board panels with a hole cut in for the netpot.

That second item is not a chiller at all, it's just a heat exchanger; hook it up to a cold water source (a chiller!), blow air through it and it will cool your air. If the water is cold enough and the air humid enough, it will also condense water out of the air stream passing through it. Another way to use it is to pass HOT water through it, then suck air through the unit and you'll get room air heating. The thing to remember is that because it's just a glorified radiator, it will not do the whole cooling job by itself; it needs the cold water.

I've scaled up; instead of 1/4hp toys, my smallest chiller is 2 Tons (roughly 2.5 hp), and instead of 8" Icebox exchangers, my air handlers are made of box fans and junkyard radiators from old Volvos!

I run 4 Tons of cooling total, and it keeps up nicely with 12kW of HID lighting. That would not fly with standard AC.

Water chilling has more advantages too, but those generally only come into play for larger scale operations.
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Looks like an ac unit would be cheaper than.

Would something likehttps://www.google.com/shopping/product/2482901291930307020?client=ms-android-att-us&q=ac+unit&ved=0CBIQqitqFQoTCIaewayFlcYCFYQ4iAodffYCjA&ei=iIWAVYa6J4TxoAT97IvgCA#reviews work (I could afford that!)? Or what would be something youd recommend for under 500 bucks?
 
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When it comes to yield I think the most important thing is grams per watt as oposed to time per pound. Two guys both get a lb in 8 weeks but the who one did it with a 600w or less is the better grower in my opion. Strains like blue dream will help more people get there.
 
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This gave me a bit of a headache trying to understand so I made a little quick diagram on how I imagine this system would work If i was going to be the first guy to make one. Please take a look at my diagram and tell me If I'm understanding the concept and what I'm missing.jags Aero Theory.png
 
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JellyJaguar said:
This gave me a bit of a headache trying to understand so I made a little quick diagram on how I imagine this system would work If i was going to be the first guy to make one. Please take a look at my diagram and tell me If I'm understanding the concept and what I'm missing.View attachment 3441744
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Pretty close (keep in mind the beauty of this system is its customization possibilities). The sprayers are normally between the net cups. And the drain should be at the end of the rail so it can gravity drain from the slightly higher end.

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