Acapulco Gold Seeds

Rev.thenatural

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its gud to see you around rev.
keep posting your pics thoughts & ideas.

been a fan of MH in flower since the 80's.
back then, used that spectrum cause wtf? its the only light i had :-)

i need me a copy of TLO.
& more shish99 beans !

^ still have 10 in the freezer.
Thanks brother, I have not been here or any were on the net since 2010. This is were I started, had so much to learn still and so many more trials and tribulations, that have helped to make us stronger like so many of you. Can't stay hiding anymore, fear is the worse of all Cripplers. Hid is the only way to go. People will ask, how many bulbs have you tried rev? Most all and especially the expensive ones, lol. I studied the common sense side of bulbs and their spectrums and seen what worked best not with expensive equipment and light and par and lumen meters...geez really, lol. You use enough bulbs, you see what your plants do when grown with them and then you simply correlate that to the spectrums the bulbs put out that the plants liked and what they had in common. Well after doing this with all the best bulbs, you see that it is peaks at certain nanometers, that mean something and the cheap Chinese bulbs like plantmax and others do a better job and standard ge, Phillips,Sylvania are probably still the best as far as easily available. In lamens terms, you don't want a bulb that puts out a big smudge of blue a big smudge of red and a peak in orange and green. You want a bulb that the spectrum looks more like a heart monitor at right peaks. Cannabis has to go through three stages of cannabinoids ripening, that most have never seen or even aware of. Three color changes and chemical changes: THc, first stage, cbd, second stage, CBN.cbg, third stage until it truly dies. The experts have no clue of the language I'm speaking...none. The more red in the spectrum my brother, the more it makes the tree want to live and why HP's will not ripen, not even the added blue and there's no uva/uvb and most powdery mildew out here on the west coast is caused by HP's. Try switching to hid and watch, I tell brothers and sisters. Were cannabis grows most potent, there is not only more uva/uvb but also much more blue in the suns spectrum, which helps kill the trees for cannabinoids to ripen. Nobody let's it go anymore, what has happened to the truth? Thanks love of money and prideful prestige, chosen by those who love it! If they want a bulb that would be perfect for cannabis , here it is..high uva/uvb, high peaks at 420-480 nanometers blue, large peak at green, small peak orange/yellow and a peak at 590 and 630 and mid peak at 735. At least 70% blue and 12000k. More blue, the faster the ripening also....to a point.Better to veg however under 4100k. Right now the Hamilton beach 14000k is the best flowering bulb available for cannabis and their american still as far as I know, keep it at home. No I don't get kickbacks, lol. Makes your grow room look like a UFO and will produce fruit that would shut down the cannabis cup for a day. These boys would need three days to build a tolerance to go past one or two hits of properly ripened Sativa's or cripi. I've been here over a year and I've smoked what everyone claimed was the best, grown by the" best." I'll reserve for now, let's just say that. As old info, becomes new info again, I can only hope it will be embraced as in the past, it hasn't been and then they just want to skin you for telling them the truth, lol maybe not this time. One love, rev.thenatural
 

Rev.thenatural

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They are doing well and right now my spray bottle is my friend,lol. This is not a joke brothers and sisters and this is not just for us, but for all of us! Prayers are always welcome. The last seven years that I've been away, if so much has changed, that the serpent has nearly eradicated the most evolved of all cannabis, then how lucky we are and how important it is, to not goof these up. It took over 150 seeds out of an old pure ac gold sack from god many years ago, to get 13 to pop soil. Feminizing is unfortunately a must if no male, but with 13...I believe maybe the lords already got our male picked out and that's all it takes to reastablish a species. Good to be back, sure hope I can be of help to those willing. Allot of great people of sure helped me, in my life. A garden of bamboo ac golds is a dream all need to be able to have and these are as pure as it gets and we will try to do our best. One love, rev.thenaturalIMG_20150706_202604965.jpg
 

Rev.thenatural

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Last update on these for couple weeks, however look how beautiful! 12 100% pure ac golds and its looking like at least two males as males usually will not have red stems like the girlies. Will do a journal lord willing within couple weeks. I needed to do this with you guys and gals as I need a little pressure and anticipation from all you as to help me to see this through. If lord willing these see pollination, you will all have this tree, that so many feel could be nearly extinct. Grown correctly, you will never want to put it down. Thanks lord and thanks roll it up, as this is were the rev started.one loveIMG_20150708_204845063.jpg
 

georgio838

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Wasn't there a strain called Wahakin something that was good?
it sounded like that but it was spelt 'oaxacan', a famous strain from mexico i remember from the 70's approx, some of those early mexi strains measured well over 20% thc tested at mississippi uni, i think in cheech & chongs up in smoke chong mentions it...'whahakan'...ooops just realised how old this post is, hope he/she is still kickin...
 
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althor

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Ok Rev, mark those two that you said would be males and let's see if they actually turn male. That would be damned interesting to me if you could tell males from females as seedlings.
 

althor

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it sounded like that but it was spelt 'oaxacan', a famous strain from mexico i remember from the 70's approx, some of those early mexi strains measured well over 20% thc tested at mississippi uni, i think in cheech & chongs up in smoke chong mentions it...'whahakan'...ooops just realised how old this post is, hope he/she is still kickin...
Link? Growing up in the vicinity of the the University of Mississippi, including a daughter who is an alum, I have never ever heard of measurements being released. They are as secretive as they get.
 

Rev.thenatural

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Ok Rev, mark those two that you said would be males and let's see if they actually turn male. That would be damned interesting to me if you could tell males from females as seedlings.
Lol, doesn't work every time I'll tell you lol. By the time they get a little size, its not so hard to spot them even before flower. These ac golds I've hatched, females are red stems from the shoot ,however the males stems have tended to be more neon green and a little thinner leaf. Now, these being pure, this may prove to be a sex determination factor or not. These two with one more possibility are neon green stems so we will see? It will be interesting to me also, lol..one love rev.
 

Sativied

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Link? Growing up in the vicinity of the the University of Mississippi, including a daughter who is an alum, I have never ever heard of measurements being released. They are as secretive as they get.
Credibility by proximity and proxy? :lol:

"Twelve Mexican-grown Cannabis samples were collected near 12 cities in 10 different states in 1973, plus one Cannabis seed sample from the state of Oaxaca (see table 1)."
http://www.calgarycmmc.com/chemicalcomposition.htm

"The University of Mississippi has a contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to carry out a variety of research activities dealing with cannabis, including the Potency Monitoring (PM) program, which provides analytical potency data on cannabis preparations confiscated in the United States. This report provides data on 46,211 samples seized and analyzed by gas chromatography-flame ionization detection (GC-FID) during 1993–2008."

Link
 

Rev.thenatural

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Remember, very few have hatched even females in captivity, so I'd say, even less have worked with males. Everything that we will experience in this grow, will be new info concerning the growth and propagation of this tree in captivity. A grow journal is a must. The revs life can be quite cumbersome as some of you at times, however its important to share this, even though I know some wonder " who is this guy, who suddenly has pure ac golds?" All revealed in gods time. I'm a worm, like all and hope to get through this with support as its needed. Dealing with my health, partners blindness,two elders and our new little light and trying to shine with others is a handful on top of a project like this. Bunch of us going through it and by gods grace, we will prevail and get this done..rev
 

georgio838

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Link? Growing up in the vicinity of the the University of Mississippi, including a daughter who is an alum, I have never ever heard of measurements being released. They are as secretive as they get.
Link? Growing up in the vicinity of the the University of Mississippi, including a daughter who is an alum, I have never ever heard of measurements being released. They are as secretive as they get.
i vividly remember that high thc reading from that mexi weed because i did not know there was technique for measuring thc levels back in 1960s-1970s, also i didnt think it would be that high, i found said data in one of those small obscure paperback cannabis books available from an online underground bookshop, may have been FSbookco or something?, i remember the graph clearly printed in the book and it looked every bit genuine, i may still have that book, i will post here the data if i can find it..ps. im thinking the testing was even done in the 1950s!...i must find that book, im heading on holidays for 6wks from 2morra but my first task on returning will be to find that book
 
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althor

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Credibility by proximity and proxy? :lol:

"Twelve Mexican-grown Cannabis samples were collected near 12 cities in 10 different states in 1973, plus one Cannabis seed sample from the state of Oaxaca (see table 1)."
http://www.calgarycmmc.com/chemicalcomposition.htm

"The University of Mississippi has a contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to carry out a variety of research activities dealing with cannabis, including the Potency Monitoring (PM) program, which provides analytical potency data on cannabis preparations confiscated in the United States. This report provides data on 46,211 samples seized and analyzed by gas chromatography-flame ionization detection (GC-FID) during 1993–2008."

Link
I am not going to get into a contest, but none of that says anything about 20% thc. I know they have a government contract to grow and test MJ, but as far as releasing their results, they have been completely secretive about it.
 

georgio838

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I am not going to get into a contest, but none of that says anything about 20% thc. I know they have a government contract to grow and test MJ, but as far as releasing their results, they have been completely secretive about it.
understandable what you are saying, but how far back in time do the policies you speak of exist? also it may have been an early 'wikileaks'? i can only say the data was on what looked like genuine missi state uni letterhead paper copied into the book, im very sorry i cannot attain that book im talking about, im already on my way on holiday, i will google search for more info in the mean time, if my dusty ol brain cells recall the book may have been called 'cannabis alchemy', i have not looked at this book in over 10yrs, im not sure i still have it, ive got many boxes of books, ive been robbed, raided & whatever in the last decade so anything could have happened to it...ps no need to feel its a contest...this is just a weed blog...chill out man & pull a bong...we all learn here...:peace:
 

georgio838

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I am not going to get into a contest, but none of that says anything about 20% thc. I know they have a government contract to grow and test MJ, but as far as releasing their results, they have been completely secretive about it.
dammm..just found cannabis alchemy book online and it doesnt contain the data in question?...there are a number of books i purchased from fsbookco about 15yrs ago, im sure that info is in one of them, ive noticed that book co no longer sells the extensive range it used to have, i just dont remember the names of those other related books, looks like the search has come to a stop until i get home again, meanwhile it may pop up in another google search...
 

georgio838

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Credibility by proximity and proxy? :lol:

"Twelve Mexican-grown Cannabis samples were collected near 12 cities in 10 different states in 1973, plus one Cannabis seed sample from the state of Oaxaca (see table 1)."
http://www.calgarycmmc.com/chemicalcomposition.htm

"The University of Mississippi has a contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to carry out a variety of research activities dealing with cannabis, including the Potency Monitoring (PM) program, which provides analytical potency data on cannabis preparations confiscated in the United States. This report provides data on 46,211 samples seized and analyzed by gas chromatography-flame ionization detection (GC-FID) during 1993–2008."

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thanks for the info, the actual strain/s in question ive noted from tests in the mississippi uni paper were not mentioned only in that it was from mexico, may have been sinoloan, michoacan, oaxacan or indeed acupulco gold as these were the famous 4 from mexi, though no doubt other districts had their own unique types too...anyway its all neither here nor there until i prove my words with finding that data, 3 things im sure that ive seen in that paper, it was a very old test, maybe even back in 1930s? the thc level was over 20%, it was from mexi weed
 

Sativied

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Althor's story sounds like more urban legend G-13 stuff. There are many (public) papers on cannabinoids and test results and methods from the Mississippi university, including some from Dr. Paul Mahlberg's (the expert, consultant to amongst others Mississipi uni). While they generally do not contain popular hybrid strain names like white widow or blue dream, the first link I posted does contain some info if you connect the dots. Oaxacan is from Oaxaca state in Mexico obviously, it's the sample ME-O. And, 'both ME-N and ME-A seeds came from Acapulco, Guerrero.' It's a messy page but it contains plenty of test results.

it was a very old test, maybe even back in 1930s?
If from Mississipi uni probably not older than 1960. Good chance it's from one of these:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jps.2600600832/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jps.2600620229/abstract

Referenced in Robert Connell Clarke's book and several others.
 

georgio838

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ok so i have been cheking out what will be my next outdoors project and my mom recomended growing acapulco gold because she remembers how she used to smoke with my father. and i got to searching and found tons of information about acapulco gold but no seeds. if anyone has an idea of where i could find this rare strain please let me know?. peace out.

pof pof pasa
those old school types are fantastic but if its anything like thai you will grow a full beard waiting for it to mature
 

georgio838

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Althor's story sounds like more urban legend G-13 stuff. There are many (public) papers on cannabinoids and test results and methods from the Mississippi university, including some from Dr. Paul Mahlberg's (the expert, consultant to amongst others Mississipi uni). While they generally do not contain popular hybrid strain names like white widow or blue dream, the first link I posted does contain some info if you connect the dots. Oaxacan is from Oaxaca state in Mexico obviously, it's the sample ME-O. And, 'both ME-N and ME-A seeds came from Acapulco, Guerrero.' It's a messy page but it contains plenty of test results.

If from Mississipi uni probably not older than 1960. Good chance it's from one of these:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jps.2600600832/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jps.2600620229/abstract

Referenced in Robert Connell Clarke's book and several others.
indeed yes..it could have been from mr clarkes book thank you
 

Rev.thenatural

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those old school types are fantastic but if its anything like thai you will grow a full beard waiting for it to mature
Only if you use HP's and do not learn to pluck leaves. Proper defoliation and hid, will help ripen faster and produce the cannabinoids that give the true effect and healing. ..rev
 
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