XML 650 beast coming tomorrow need advice

djweed420

djweed420

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Yes I've seen that video, the Apache is an awesome light and GG swears by it but the price is hectic.

I'm def keen to see how this XML650 performs in terms of yield and quality.

What size area are you growing this light in JJ?
 
JellyJaguar

JellyJaguar

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Hey my fellow herbal warriors I finally got around to taking a few more pics since I got the light. Let me just say I started with the 650@ 18" and burned the plant and was worried for a bit. I took the light up to 22" from the top cola and she seems very very happy with it and started to veg her with both 10w cree and flowering lights. Some days I only turned on the 305w of flowering lights on and left the 10w lights off to see if there was any kind of change but ended up going back to the full spectrum. My plants have taken on more of an exotic look, strange since they are just random bag seeds. The buds smell divine with something like roses inside of an old stinky gym sock. I cheated and smoked a little early (oven method) and it was very spicy almost like cinnamon with good pain relief and not much couch lock. I'm told after proper drying and curing the buds become far more potent so in a few weeks I plan to slow cure them for about a month (flavor is important to me) before smoking any. The first picture is bud 1 before the light and the second pic is it this morning a few weeks later. This plant was stunted and I was not sure it was gona make it but It has turned into a bushy little thing with plenty of character and almost all bud. IMG_20150712_122541_978.jpgIMG_20150712_122541_978.jpg IMG_20150712_122629_164.jpg IMG_20150712_122702_682.jpg IMG_20150712_122747_184.jpg IMG_20150712_123225_297.jpg IMG_20150712_123628_694.jpg IMG_20150712_123737_993.jpg IMG_20150712_123830_934.jpg IMG_20150712_123921_641.jpg
 
JellyJaguar

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I tried to use a flashlight to see the crystals better but my phone is shit and I took preworkout and my hand would not stop shaking lol.
 
Yodaweed

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JellyJaguar said:
This was my very first grow and I will be starting my next grow and next batch will be all auto seeds from herbies. I will be growing
Sweet Dark Devil Auto Autoflowering Feminised Seeds x 3
Royal Queen Northern Lights Auto Autoflowering Feminised Seedsx3
Fast Buds Blackberry Autoflowering Feminised Seedsx3
Heavyweight Fast & Vast Auto Autoflowering Feminised Seedsx3
Pyramid Anubis x3 (strain based off of chronic)
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Why autos? Do you have height restrictions? From my experience with autos they just a waste of time and space you can grow a photo plant in the same time and get way danker buds from. More blue = more leaf , more leaf = more to trim .
 
JellyJaguar

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Yodaweed said:
Why autos? Do you have height restrictions? From my experience with autos they just a waste of time and space you can grow a photo plant in the same time and get way danker buds from. More blue = more leaf , more leaf = more to trim .
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Tbh I just want to be able to advise people in the feature and I cant really do that If I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think I will every do autos again but I'm interested to see what vegging this thing without a 12/12 cycle will do. I have some mint and other stuff in my tent too and they are happy as a pig in shit :bigjoint:
 
JellyJaguar

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chronnie49 said:
There was a guy on grasscity that did a side by side comparison with a 1000w hps. He did 6 plants under each light, the xml pulled 11 oz and the hps did 20. But he let the plants get 6ft tall and said it was his first time using led and admitted if he would have controlled the height better hes sure the xml would have done much better.he also said the quality under the xml was noticeably better.
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I think this light may be as good as it gets, even for someone who made every possible mistake I still ended with some really nice bud. Now I will have it for the entire grow not just the last few flowering weeks so I will see on my next grow what it can really do. The penetration is fantastic so My grow after next I plan to get the plants good and tall just to see. Let me say that this 650 is overkill in a 4/4 tent and the 350 would have done just fine but I digress lol. I guess thats what the other 7feet going up are for.
 
JellyJaguar

JellyJaguar

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djweed420 said:
Yes I've seen that video, the Apache is an awesome light and GG swears by it but the price is hectic.

I'm def keen to see how this XML650 performs in terms of yield and quality.

What size area are you growing this light in JJ?
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It's in a 4/4 and It really feels like a 1k wat HID just without any heat I think the 350 would have done just fine in a 4/4. I guess because its 7foot tall is why I got the 650and I plan to start some cherry trees in it after all my bud is done.
 
JellyJaguar

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cityworker415 said:
I would just ship it back...

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I'm very happy with it you could not pry it from my cold dead hands X)
djweed420 said:
Keen to see how these lights do bro. It's still on my shortlist but the price is holding me back.
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Worthy every damn dime man I would highly recommend it but yeah I can understand when mars sells lights for half the price that do just fine. I wanted to be able to grow the best bud I was able so that's why I went for it.
 
JellyJaguar

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djweed420 said:
I think one of the most noticeable differences with LED is the quality overall, (higher trichomes, terpenes and resin production) but for most part still lacks in yield production.

I'm really super keen to go LED to save on costs, heat, efficiency etc, and grow a higher quality bud, but as a grower selling for profit, yield is a big factor for me, and tbh most of my clientele probably wouldn't care as long as it makes them stoned lol.
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from the 350-650 there was almost no heat change I plan to take a picture of this shining in back yard at night to show just how insane it is. On the powerbill I think it went up like $25 to keep it on all the time so it's great on that. My main thing is I didn't want a thermal image from outside my house or any kind of ballast issues that call the powerman to come snooping.
 
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