Scarlet for those accused of rape on campus

[desert dude]

What do you think? Good idea or bad idea to notate a student's official transcript with "this guy is a rapist", whether convicted or not?


https://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/dc-legislators-want-to-brand-accused-stu

Newly proposed D.C. legislation would require colleges to put a permanent and prominent notation on the academic transcripts of students who are convicted of sexual assault or who try to withdraw from school while under investigation for sexual misconduct — a “Scarlet Letter” that would follow them to new schools and graduate programs or into the workforce.


Council member Anita Bonds’s proposal Tuesday — which comes as the nation is paying more attention to the widespread problem of college sexual assault — immediately drew praise from several colleagues for its bold approach to attacking the issue. But it also caught officials at the city’s colleges and universities off guard, proposing what is certain to be a controversial way of permanently punishing those accused of assaults.

 

[NewtoMJ]

What do you think? Good idea or bad idea to notate a student's official transcript with "this guy is a rapist", whether convicted or not?


https://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/dc-legislators-want-to-brand-accused-stu

Newly proposed D.C. legislation would require colleges to put a permanent and prominent notation on the academic transcripts of students who are convicted of sexual assault or who try to withdraw from school while under investigation for sexual misconduct — a “Scarlet Letter” that would follow them to new schools and graduate programs or into the workforce.

Council member Anita Bonds’s proposal Tuesday — which comes as the nation is paying more attention to the widespread problem of college sexual assault — immediately drew praise from several colleagues for its bold approach to attacking the issue. But it also caught officials at the city’s colleges and universities off guard, proposing what is certain to be a controversial way of permanently punishing those accused of assaults.

If they only did it to people convicted, would you be ok with it?

 

[desert dude]

If they only did it to people convicted, would you be ok with it?

There is no need to do it to people convicted of rape. A criminal conviction follows you forever.

Being "tried" in a kangaroo court conducted by a college and never charged criminally for a serious violent crime seems a bit Stalinesque to me.

 

[NewtoMJ]

There is no need to do it to people convicted of rape. A criminal conviction follows you forever.

Being "tried" in a kangaroo court conducted by a college and never charged criminally for a serious violent crime seems a bit Stalinesque to me.

Nobody is trying them. They are just using an administrative mark to note a status. I don't agree with people whom are not convicted. But if you're convicted, go for it.

 

[UncleBuck]

What do you think? Good idea or bad idea to notate a student's official transcript with "this guy is a rapist", whether convicted or not?


https://reason.com/blog/2015/07/15/dc-legislators-want-to-brand-accused-stu

Newly proposed D.C. legislation would require colleges to put a permanent and prominent notation on the academic transcripts of students who are convicted of sexual assault or who try to withdraw from school while under investigation for sexual misconduct — a “Scarlet Letter” that would follow them to new schools and graduate programs or into the workforce.

Council member Anita Bonds’s proposal Tuesday — which comes as the nation is paying more attention to the widespread problem of college sexual assault — immediately drew praise from several colleagues for its bold approach to attacking the issue. But it also caught officials at the city’s colleges and universities off guard, proposing what is certain to be a controversial way of permanently punishing those accused of assaults.

that one owuld have followed you around for a while, eh?

no wonder you object.

how many iraqi women did you rape over in iraq?

 

[UncleBuck]

There is no need to do it to people convicted of rape.

why are you such a rape apologist?

 

[desert dude]

Nobody is trying them. They are just using an administrative mark to note a status. I don't agree with people whom are not convicted. But if you're convicted, go for it.

Rape is a criminal offense, not an administrative offense. A rapist should not be set free on a school suspension to go out and rape others. Colleges are not courts of law and should not be "trying" rape, murder, armed robber, or aggravated assault, that is what the criminal justice system is for.

 

[NewtoMJ]

Rape is a criminal offense, not an administrative offense. A rapist should not be set free on a school suspension to go out and rape others. Colleges are not courts of law and should not be "trying" rape, murder, armed robber, or aggravated assault, that is what the criminal justice system is for.

They're not trying cases. They are marking the records of convicted rapists, or people under investigation. Where do you read they are holding trials and handing out convictions?

 

[londonfog]

Rape is a criminal offense, not an administrative offense. A rapist should not be set free on a school suspension to go out and rape others. Colleges are not courts of law and should not be "trying" rape, murder, armed robber, or aggravated assault, that is what the criminal justice system is for.

Do you believe a man can rape his wife ?

 

[desert dude]

They're not trying cases. They are marking the records of convicted rapists, or people under investigation. Where do you read they are holding trials and handing out convictions?

Read the link. It is a process pushed on the universities by the feds under title 9.

These are "convictions" by a mockery of a trial conducted by kangaroo courts run by the universities where the accused is denied due process: you can't see the evidence against you, you can't cross examine your accuser, you can't have a lawyer present, etc.

Who isn't under investigation in the US now days?

 

[UncleBuck]

Read the link. It is a process pushed on the universities by the feds under title 9.

These are "convictions" by a mockery of a trial conducted by kangaroo courts run by the universities where the accused is denied due process: you can't see the evidence against you, you can't cross examine your accuser, you can't have a lawyer present, etc.

Who isn't under investigation in the US now days?

h=so how many women have you raped?

i'm putting the over/under on two dozen before you went impotent.

 

[NewtoMJ]

Read the link. It is a process pushed on the universities by the feds under title 9.

These are "convictions" by a mockery of a trial conducted by kangaroo courts run by the universities where the accused is denied due process: you can't see the evidence against you, you can't cross examine your accuser, you can't have a lawyer present, etc.

Who isn't under investigation in the US now days?

They are not convictions. A campus judiciary hearing is just the school deciding what to do if a student violates the code of conduct, if the offense is criminal, there is still going to be state or federal charges.

 

[WeedFreak78]

So you want people held accountable for something they were never convicted of in a court of law? And instead of trying to call out the corrupt system for change you want to personally vilify someone who may, or may not, have committed any crime..you're a special kind of stupid

"Hey the system doesn't work so lets treat everyone like a criminal!"..

 

[ChesusRice]

So you want people held accountable for something they were never convicted of in a court of law? And instead of trying to call out the corrupt system for change you want to personally vilify someone who may, or may not, have committed any crime..you're a special kind of stupid

"Hey the system doesn't work so lets treat everyone like a criminal!"..

true story.
This girl who I never met hated my guts, mean mugged me in the bar. I asked her friend who was a friend of mine "what gives"
Her friend tells me She was raped. The detective interviewing her let her look thru mug shot books. She assumed that everyone she was looking at was a rapist. The detective never told her that this was just a book of mug shots and led her believe that everyone in there had been arrested for rape.
I had a Mugshot in there from a traffic offense.

 

[NewtoMJ]

So you want people held accountable for something they were never convicted of in a court of law? And instead of trying to call out the corrupt system for change you want to personally vilify someone who may, or may not, have committed any crime..you're a special kind of stupid

"Hey the system doesn't work so lets treat everyone like a criminal!"..

Most of those football players weren't convicted for beating their wives before they were "held accountable". Neither was that kid who punched the woman in the bar. He was thrown off the team and didn't even get arrested. Josh Duggar lost his job, and he will never be convicted. Before you call someone stupid, get the testicles out of your face so you can see the inconsistencies in your own fervor.

 

[NewtoMJ]

true story.
This girl who I never met hated my guts, mean mugged me in the bar. I asked her friend who was a friend of mine "what gives"
Her friend tells me She was raped. The detective interviewing her let her look thru mug shot books. She assumed that everyone she was looking at was a rapist. The detective never told her that this was just a book of mug shots and led her believe that everyone in there had been arrested for rape.
I had a Mugshot in there from a traffic offense.

You got booked on a traffic offense? What the hell!

 

[schuylaar]

There is no need to do it to people convicted of rape. A criminal conviction follows you forever.

Being "tried" in a kangaroo court conducted by a college and never charged criminally for a serious violent crime seems a bit Stalinesque to me.

it's a felony in florida, so it's all records.

i believe this should be according to the rules of your state not a college, especially since the person wasn't even convicted.

many people are wrongly convicted in the us for specifically this.

the truth is important, but not at the expense of reputation.

i'm with DD (dum dum).

 

[skunkd0c]

true story.

I had a Mugshot in there from a traffic offense.

A rape victim was forced to look at your picture
did they make her watch Jim'll Fix It too ?

 

[schuylaar]

You got booked on a traffic offense? What the hell!

oh he's always getting into trouble..his high schooler lets the cops in while he's not at home..she now lives with no devices and CR has taken sheets, pillows..she doesn't learn

 

[schuylaar]

A rape victim was forced to look at your picture
did they make her watch Jim'll Fix It too ?

who's that in your avi?