Super Silver Haze 1st Grow help ?

se3kerz

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Hi guys, I'm new here so first off all y'all are amazing. This place is awesome I'm glad I joined. So like the title says, I'm a first time grower. Basically, I only have 3 plants under 250W hps in a 15 gallons DWC. I'm using GH trio with distilled water + CalMag supp. Changing it once a week, topping with fresh distilled water. I keep PH near 6. I put everything under a scrog since I'm growing indoor under height restriction. Topped once, then lst under scrog.

So when I chose super silver haze, I didn't have the knowledge bout sativas growing tall and streching a lot in flowering, but since I already had the seeds, I decided to give it a try.

I vegged 3 weeks from seed with a 18/6 sched BUT I think it took a lot of time for the roots to hit the water under the rockwool so the real veg time might be lower than that. Anyways, by that time, i filled lets say half of my 2X2.5 scrog. I thought it was a good time to switch so I switched over to 12/12. 3 days later I started checking for female parts and there were almost 2 per node with 2 pistils emerging from each. Looks like preflowers from what Ive seen here. The thing is, i didnt really noticed if they were there BEFORE the switch. 10 days later, the plants keep steching, filling the screen, but looks like there only still 2 calyx per node for a total of 4 pistils on the majority of the nodes. My question is : is the plant flowering ? Maybe someone who knows the strain knows about that, but I find no significative changes in the number of pistils after 10 days isnt normal, is it ? Should I expect a boost only in the 3rd or 4th week ? I don't want them to keep filling the screen and going up without flowering more.

PS : Plants are overall healthy, tops are lil bit yellower at the center but not that much, no defiencies other than that and no pest.
 

GOLDBERG71

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First of all the best thing I can tell you is learn how to SEARCH the site. There really aren't any questions that haven't been asked and answered.

I don't scrog. I understand it but won't advise about it. This is the deal in broad strokes. First - anytime you switch to 12/12 you're forcing the plant to flower. Second- everyone sells some sort of SSH. So anytime you mention strain it helps to mention who the breeder is. Third - some plants show preflowers some don't during veg. The length of veg comes in to play also. But I can say this 3rd week of veg from seed to see preflowers isn't likely. Fourth - when flowering is forced the very first reaction of the plant is to stretch. Some sativas can quadruple in size and some indicas might not even double in size. After the stretching stops you'll notice pistols and bud development increase. That doesn't mean there won't be some pistols showing during stretch but the majority develop after its complete.
 

se3kerz

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First of all the best thing I can tell you is learn how to SEARCH the site. There really aren't any questions that haven't been asked and answered.

I don't scrog. I understand it but won't advise about it. This is the deal in broad strokes. First - anytime you switch to 12/12 you're forcing the plant to flower. Second- everyone sells some sort of SSH. So anytime you mention strain it helps to mention who the breeder is. Third - some plants show preflowers some don't during veg. The length of veg comes in to play also. But I can say this 3rd week of veg from seed to see preflowers isn't likely. Fourth - when flowering is forced the very first reaction of the plant is to stretch. Some sativas can quadruple in size and some indicas might not even double in size. After the stretching stops you'll notice pistols and bud development increase. That doesn't mean there won't be some pistols showing during stretch but the majority develop after its complete.
Thanks for your reply ! Sorry bout that the breeder is Robert Bergman from ILGM. Very sativa pheno, thin leaves. Is the flowering stretch a real strech where only space between nodes increases or is it new growth and new leaves ?
 

Dr. Who

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Thanks for your reply ! Sorry bout that the breeder is Robert Bergman from ILGM. Very sativa pheno, thin leaves. Is the flowering stretch a real strech where only space between nodes increases or is it new growth and new leaves ?
I have never seen a Sativa quadruple in size! Triple is pushing it but I have seen that.

Showing sex or throwing some preflowers is not uncommon for some strains in veg. Environment is a factor..Don't sweat that preflowering..

Yes, increase of stretch between node and the setting of flowering points....New growth is in the form of the flowers a little later on.

Doc
 

dandyrandy

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I grow SSH from Greenhouse. It's some of the best I've found. I found a pheno that is done in 50 days bloom. It didn't stretch to bad. I have 5 seeds for next round.
 

lfc89

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I got two amnesia haze lst'd and supercropped. They were vegged for roughly 10 weeks, one of them showed pre flowers after about 6 weeks (strong pheno) while the other only showed up a week or so ago. I switched to 12/12 8 days ago heres a pic of my pistills
 

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se3kerz

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Thanks to yall for your input. I decided to post some picture so you guys can see what I'm talking about when I'm saying very few pistils. So here are a few pictures taken at roughly day 10 of 12/12, after the 3-4 weeks veg (might be less as explained in first post). First grow ever SSH.
 

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GOLDBERG71

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I have never seen a Sativa quadruple in size! Triple is pushing it but I have seen that.

Showing sex or throwing some preflowers is not uncommon for some strains in veg. Environment is a factor..Don't sweat that preflowering..

Yes, increase of stretch between node and the setting of flowering points....New growth is in the form of the flowers a little later on.

Doc
Check out mullumbimby madness they can reach 20 feet.
 

Diesel0889

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Thanks to yall for your input. I decided to post some picture so you guys can see what I'm talking about when I'm saying very few pistils. So here are a few pictures taken at roughly day 10 of 12/12, after the 3-4 weeks veg (might be less as explained in first post). First grow ever SSH.
From what I can see in pics I think it's looking good, healthy and it's not uncommon for it to take more than ten days to start flowering I would not worry. Just TRY and be patient the best you can it's tough!!!!
 

se3kerz

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Update : Now at day 18 of 12/12 (Will try to post more pics) the tops are flowering but they keep stretching an inch each day i dont know what to do !! I thought it'd be almost finished by now or at least I wasnt expecting an inch per day ! The scrog is kinda full and stems are now too big to get them under the screen without breaking them. hard to tie them down now... I'm kinda fucked lolll...
 

Dr. Who

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Ok,,, Nice then....I still haven't seen it myself.
Don't mean it doesn't happen....right?
I hear you on the long pre flower! I see that in equatorial landrace sativa's......some Thai and Vietnamese Black too...

Doc
 

se3kerz

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Guys, like... really... I just pulled up my lights again... day 22 12/12 ... how can they still be growing wtf, they just spacin those nodes far from each other... thats kinda sucks cause buds are still kinda small... oh well... maybe i should go 10/14 so they stop growing ?
 

GOLDBERG71

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Guys, like... really... I just pulled up my lights again... day 22 12/12 ... how can they still be growing wtf, they just spacin those nodes far from each other... thats kinda sucks cause buds are still kinda small... oh well... maybe i should go 10/14 so they stop growing ?
Read up. THATS WHAT SATIVAS DO. All plants stretch. Indicas less than SATIVAS. You do yourself a favor if you did a little research on this site or buy a book. Marijuana growers insiders guide by Mel frank easy reading. Great place to start.
 

se3kerz

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Read up. THATS WHAT SATIVAS DO. All plants stretch. Indicas less than SATIVAS. You do yourself a favor if you did a little research on this site or buy a book. Marijuana growers insiders guide by Mel frank easy reading. Great place to start.
Thanks, I just got myself the book, starting Chapter 2. Well, they DID start flowering as you can now see at day 23 12/12!
 

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sanjuan

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My Shackzilla is half SSH and it stretches almost an inch per day for the first five weeks of 12/12hr. That is under Lumigrow LED, hempy buckets or Tropf Blumat in coco.

I wish the Mel Frank book had the color photos and graphics of the Cervantes book.
 
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