1oz per plant hempy SOG?

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SativaSage

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Hi, I would like to be able to pull 1oz per plant each SOG harvest, this will be my first grow. Would this be possible in 2 gallon Hempy Buckets with rooted clone straight to flower? Does anybody have any recommendations or advise for container size? I'm thinking a 600 Watt HPS for flower light with my mothers under a 400 Watt MH. Also from cutting the clones to harvest around about how much time would you estimate it should take for such a harvest? Is 1 square foot per plant a good amount of space, too much, too little? Sorry for if I'm asking dumb questions. I've spent countless hours researching but I have ADHD and I have a great deal of trouble retaining and making use of information from reading it.

EDIT: For strains I'm thinking Super Lemon Haze or Super Silver Haze I'd also like a medicinal indica but I'm unsure what would be able to grow well in SOG with the Sativa, any suggestions would be great :) I'd like an Indica that is extremely relaxing and can help me sleep and for a Sativa I want something I can have before I workout or can have a productive day on while smoking
 
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daloudpack

daloudpack

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id go with an autoflowering strain rather then flowering a clone.... im not 100% positive but i think new vegative growth stops at flowering so u will only have the amount of nodes and bud sites that u start with,, so unless ur taking 1-2 ft clones <- again not sure if that is possible... then i dont see getting an ounce out of a flowered clone....with autoflowers u can pick the size and speed of plant u want...
 
daloudpack

daloudpack

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no way would a clone support an ounce of weed... but from a newly rooted clone if it flowers at all which i doubt id say a half gram maybe 2 grams and flowering time depends on strain usually between 8-13 weeks of flowering (not counting the rooting time of 5-30 days depending on strain) plus a 2 week atleast veg which isnt alot... u should veg under a 6500k light source for atleast a couple weeks to get even close to your goal...then switch to flowering in 12/12 light
 
fandango

fandango

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I think your idea of 2 gallon pots is fine here,
600w hps and a 4x4 flood tray would work.
I found flood and drain and 6" rock wool cubes work great.
Start the cuts in the 2" cubes,put them into 6" cubes.
Best to put a mat under the 6" blocks to hide the roots from the light.
Put a 6x6 screen 16" up from the tray.
36 plants fit nice.
18 hr light for 20 days
12 hr light for 80 days
all the same strain
repeat.
 
daloudpack

daloudpack

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fandango said:
I think your idea of 2 gallon pots is fine here,
600w hps and a 4x4 flood tray would work.
I found flood and drain and 6" rock wool cubes work great.
Start the cuts in the 2" cubes,put them into 6" cubes.
Best to put a mat under the 6" blocks to hide the roots from the light.
Put a 6x6 screen 16" up from the tray.
36 plants fit nice.
18 hr light for 20 days
12 hr light for 80 days
all the same strain
repeat.
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18 hr light for 20 days =3 weeks veg time.... so its not going str8 to flower
 
daloudpack

daloudpack

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in your opinion fandingo what would be the equivelant of vegging under 24 hr light for 3 weeks as compared to 18 hrs of light... they say its 30% faster so would that put me at about say 4 weeks under 18hr light id say im a bushy 20 inches high at the end of my veg
 
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SativaSage

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I was planning on taking 6-8 inch clones, how long would I need to veg? Also how much space would I need for 20 clones?
 
daloudpack

daloudpack

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id stick with 2 to 3 weeks vegging after rooting regardless of size (6 inches or 3-5 nodes )is about the correct size for taking a cutting ...ive never done s.o.g so i dont know about space.... but fandigo gave u the blue print for what sounds like an awesome 36 ounce grow lol....
 
Mowgli Ma-Fên

Mowgli Ma-Fên

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you should use superroot airpots. u can pull an ounce in an 3L airpot easily.

and if u can u should go from seed.it's often much faster than doing cuts. + u can start from 12/12 as well.

would recommend to use stable auto strains as well.

peace
 
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SativaSage

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I was always under the impression clones yielded more in a shorter time period due to having the same age as the mother from the get go, can someone explain to me why it's being recommended I grow from seed rather than clones? It isn't yet legal where I am so I would need to spend a lot of money on seeds and risk them not arriving in the mail or also grow a male in order to get seeds right?
 
Mowgli Ma-Fên

Mowgli Ma-Fên

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R1b3n4 said:
yeah they are weaker than photoperiod plants in general, and in the same time you can grow an auto you could grow a photo seed 12/12 from seed and yield more etc
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that is not true. it really depends on the strain-like so often. critical 2.0 took 11weeks from germ to SMOKE. and it was one of the strongest buds i ever smoked.i rarely say that.moby dick auto is another example and there are others.
 
Mowgli Ma-Fên

Mowgli Ma-Fên

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SativaSage said:
I was always under the impression clones yielded more in a shorter time period due to having the same age as the mother from the get go, can someone explain to me why it's being recommended I grow from seed rather than clones? It isn't yet legal where I am so I would need to spend a lot of money on seeds and risk them not arriving in the mail or also grow a male in order to get seeds right?
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your impresson is right, but the rooting process is what takes the longest time.of course if you can buy rooted clones, thats great.
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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SativaSage said:
I was always under the impression clones yielded more in a shorter time period due to having the same age as the mother from the get go, can someone explain to me why it's being recommended I grow from seed rather than clones? It isn't yet legal where I am so I would need to spend a lot of money on seeds and risk them not arriving in the mail or also grow a male in order to get seeds right?
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No, with growing from clones you get less per plant but make up for it by having more plants in the tent and fitting in an extra crop each year due to lack of veg time

i.e. in a 4x4 area you may have 9 normal size plants that have been vegged for a month allowing you 4 crops per year and around, say for instance 10-15 oz (600w hps), this equates to around 60oz over the year

with growing from clones, instead of 9 plants you would have something like 36/48 etc and aim for around 1/2 oz each plant with no veg time, allowing you 5 crops per year
5 crops per year X 36-48 1/2 oz plants is closer to 100oz over the course of the year etc due to lack of veg time each crop


only a rough explanation but should give yo the general idea etc
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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Mowgli Ma-Fên said:
that is not true. it really depends on the strain-like so often. critical 2.0 took 11weeks from germ to SMOKE. and it was one of the strongest buds i ever smoked.i rarely say that.moby dick auto is another example and there are others.
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Regardless of what you think is or isnt a strong bud, autos regularly TEST at lower potencies than photoperiod plants, so while it may seem strong to you it is still weaker than a lot of the photo strains etc
 
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