"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation" -Ben Carson

This statement is taken out of context pretty bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-on-muslims-says-he-was-taken-out-of-context/

SHARONVILLE, Ohio — GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson dismissed the idea that he is prejudiced against Muslims, insisting Tuesday during a news conference here that his statement Sunday that he would not support a Muslim for president was taken out of context.

“I don’t care what a person’s religious beliefs are or what their religious heritage is. If they embrace American culture, if they embrace our constitution and are willing to place that above their religious beliefs, I have no problem with it,” Carson said before a rally in Sharonville.
 
This statement is taken out of context pretty bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-on-muslims-says-he-was-taken-out-of-context/

SHARONVILLE, Ohio — GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson dismissed the idea that he is prejudiced against Muslims, insisting Tuesday during a news conference here that his statement Sunday that he would not support a Muslim for president was taken out of context.

“I don’t care what a person’s religious beliefs are or what their religious heritage is. If they embrace American culture, if they embrace our constitution and are willing to place that above their religious beliefs, I have no problem with it,” Carson said before a rally in Sharonville.
 
This statement is taken out of context pretty bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-on-muslims-says-he-was-taken-out-of-context/

SHARONVILLE, Ohio — GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson dismissed the idea that he is prejudiced against Muslims, insisting Tuesday during a news conference here that his statement Sunday that he would not support a Muslim for president was taken out of context.

“I don’t care what a person’s religious beliefs are or what their religious heritage is. If they embrace American culture, if they embrace our constitution and are willing to place that above their religious beliefs, I have no problem with it,” Carson said before a rally in Sharonville.

Oh like how he said he didn't believe in climate change? And then suddenly he wasn't a climate change denier by a climate change questioner? Or when he said that Obamacare is literally like slavery and when he draws criticism it's all the "PC police's fault" for "misinterpreting" what he said?

And people jumped on Kerry for being a flip-flopper. Wtf is Ben Carson? Flying under the sea?
 
Oh like how he said he didn't believe in climate change? And then suddenly he wasn't a climate change denier by a climate change questioner? Or when he said that Obamacare is literally like slavery and when he draws criticism it's all the "PC police's fault" for "misinterpreting" what he said?

And people jumped on Kerry for being a flip-flopper. Wtf is Ben Carson? Flying under the sea?
I don't believe in climate change. As I said, this is taken out of context, if you want to find out what he meant watch the 2 minutes before this "gotchya" quote.
 
Dr. Carson made a valid point based on the very basic tenets of Islamic countries. They intermingle their religion with politics. There is no separation of church and state. Shariah law comes first to Muslims. And not unlike the Obama voters, they are lemmings.

His point is brilliant in that no one in their right mind would want a Prez who puts Shariah law over the laws of the Constitution, and with Muslims you can not separate the two. Muslim's are determined to force their religion down your throat even if they have to cut off your head first.
Sounds like Christians I got boxed in by Christians trying to get me to go to their church and would not stop till I flipped out then they finally moved their piece of shit truck. Meanwhile I have been to plenty paki stores and never once has a Muslim even mentioned their religion so yeah I call bullshit Muslims mind they business Christians don't. Of course ISIS is an exception which most Muslims don't follow they got Muslims deserting them.

And a Muslim became president he can never bring in sharia law we ain't even supposed to have church laws but thanks to majority Christians in this country we live under church laws and sin taxes. I don't advocate a Christian to run my country they are the reason for this holy war along with oil. Not to mention they think some magic man in the sky will take care of our pollution. Lmao
 
Re reading, none; but I believe I understand the problem. We spend a lot of time, effort and money to detect and arbitrate truth. And the results suck. The issue can be broken down into two components, acquisition and post processing.

The first problem is in the data that's been collected. If the data collected is corrupt, no amount of post processing will give you the correct results.

The effort should be to get humans out of the process all together. (Talk about your fantasy world and then there's mine ...)

I just can't envision a realistic system without force of some kind. How do you modify behavior if an individual tells you to fuck off without coercion? Again, I tend to think you're ignoring human behavior. In fact you talk about defensive force, which is an application of individual coercion, (or not in your mind)?

How does your system not degenerate into free for all, or a might makes right type of situation?


Thank you for asking some questions. Please keep your last question in mind, we should get back to it, but in order for me to do that effectively, I'd like to see if we can identify the root causes or primary problems first. Please humor me and see if we agree on what the primary problem is, then we can address the solutions.

Understanding a problem is good. However to solve a problem, requires striking the root causes rather than addressing the symptoms.

Would you admit that the present system has elements of "might makes right" baked into it and those elements are the underlying glue that maintains the present (political) systems ?
 
Funny... all of MY liberal friends seem to want to talk about are today's problems and how to solve them for the betterment of our country and the majority of its citizens.

Maybe you've been listening to the wrong 'liberals'.


Liberal friends? Oh my!

When they put their gun down you'll know they've smartened up, until then they are just like any other political faction.

So-called Liberals are VERY weak on ending the USA's military global intervention / domination and are also VERY weak on ceasing the use of force to meddle in individuals lives domestically. They just want to hold the "gun" of government and use it to force people to live they way they insist they must.
 
Amazing to me, in 2015, we haven't even come far enough along that a candidate could
say openly that they were atheist and don't accept on evidence that any of the various
religions were true. Christianity is absolutely ridiculous... mythology. As they all are.
Morals and justice and humane,respectful treatment of your fellow man do not
come from any religion or invisible deity. All of those myths are a perversion of
reality and truth.


Oh, so let not one follow a mythical belief with records by witness,......Let`s drop everything and follow a Big Bang Theory,........

From witness recorded myth to,..... theory,.....That`s brilliant.........Where were you 2,000 years ago ?
 
Oh, so let not one follow a mythical belief with records by witness,......Let`s drop everything and follow a Big Bang Theory,........

From witness recorded myth to,..... theory,.....That`s brilliant.........Where were you 2,000 years ago ?


Shhh, you will anger the lizard people!


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Oh, so let not one follow a mythical belief with records by witness,......Let`s drop everything and follow a Big Bang Theory,........

From witness recorded myth to,..... theory,.....That`s brilliant.........Where were you 2,000 years ago ?
Where are these "records of witnesses"? Stories and allegory is all it is. I've been told by the same priest that some parts of the bible are real and some are allegory, when i asked how do you tell, he said some BS about whether it applied to your life or not. My whole time in the church was me realizing they would spin it anyway they could to get to their desired outcomes. I prefer scientific method. When 1+1 doesn't equal 2..no amount of faith or belief can make it right.
 
read my post. Find out what he said BEFORE that question, like I said it is taken out of context.

Of course it was taken out of context, that's what the sleezy liberal press does, and the retarded lemmings fall for it.

You're scaring the liberals with facts. That can get you banned here.
 
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Where are these "records of witnesses"? Stories and allegory is all it is. I've been told by the same priest that some parts of the bible are real and some are allegory, when i asked how do you tell, he said some BS about whether it applied to your life or not. My whole time in the church was me realizing they would spin it anyway they could to get to their desired outcomes. I prefer scientific method. When 1+1 doesn't equal 2..no amount of faith or belief can make it right.


So you are confused ? Your science offers only theory. The Bible was peer reviewed and has lasted thousands of years. If you want me to believe it was written by a bunch of liars,...you are gonna need more than,..."you say so".

I`ve got witness records that were peer reviewed and stand the ultimate test of time, you got ...."they say so"...."it could be",...maybe if".....

1,...you will live,...1,...you will die,....1,.... you will finally know,.......1+1+1= truth. Just prove that right there to be false Mr. Science.
 
So you are confused ? Your science offers only theory. The Bible was peer reviewed and has lasted thousands of years. If you want me to believe it was written by a bunch of liars,...you are gonna need more than,..."you say so".

I`ve got witness records that were peer reviewed and stand the ultimate test of time, you got ...."they say so"...."it could be",...maybe if".....

1,...you will live,...1,...you will die,....1,.... you will finally know,.......1+1+1= truth. Just prove that right there to be false Mr. Science.
Peer reviewed by who? Lasted thousands of years?..maybe,but it was perverted all along the way, there is undeniable proof of that. Even the Vatican admits it was rewritten, but they use the "it was god's will" excuse to justify it. Anything governed by man will be corrupted.

It's pretty simple really..I live by the golden rule. Do unto others..served me well so far..and I'm not worried about some magic man in the sky slapping my pee pee in the afterlife if i do something "wrong".
 
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