No more vapes for me, nightmare of experience!

avillax

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So, as mentioned in other topic I was undecided whether to buy a home vaporizer as I thought my portable one wasn't delivering the goods.

Thing is this: I don't have much weed experience, I used to smoke it as a teen sometimes then I quit for many years, then in Czech Republic they rolled the joint and I got hooked because the quality was great compared to Mexico.

So I bought 2.5 grams of weed and so far it has lasted almost 2 months since I was smoking only twice a week and from a one hitter using very little. The effects were good, I buy this weed at a Russian mafia bar and it is the best quality in the black market. That is, not as good as home-grown stuff and probably harvested late to get more yields but it is OK though more leaning to Indica and not so many giggles.

Anyways, I bought an IMAG vaporizer and vaping through it was giving me light sensations of well-being and feeling calm with a clear head and also tasted really good. Vaping a bit more was giving me a couch-lock kind of feeling and when in the streets it was hard because I felt really slow and sort of locked and so I was becoming withdrawn.
But I wasn't really getting high, to me, high is when you feel really good and happy and feel very optimistic and light-headed and even social, I was having those experiences with the one hitter, not with the vape, but it was fucking my throat and I'm very susceptible to flu and colds.

So I thought I needed to deliver more vapor in every hit in order to make it work, so before buying a home vaporizer I decided to try vaping with my IMAG for longer time, more hits and holding it longer and so yesterday in about 45 minutes I gave it about 8-10 hits on the medium setting and holding it for a while, it was the first time it made me cough so I took it as a good sign.

But throughout the whole process I never really felt a high, I felt a clear head with very sedative feeling, very couch-locking but I also started feeling dizzy and frozen, I could barely move and I didn't want to move, I could tell I had a lot of THC but it wasn't giving me a sensation of wellness, in fact, it was the opposite, I started to feel sort of bad about everything, very negative. I enjoy eating chocolate while high and I did so this time and it started to taste like a toxic paste, everything had a negative tint to it, I even had some very light nausea and also a bit of paranoia, I began to feel that just thinking about stopping my heart was going to stop it, I began to feel I was getting lots of flu even when I wasn't, etc. And I was extremely anxious and dizzy, at times I felt I wanted to cry for help, it was horrible. I started to eat strawberry jam right from the bottle in order to cut it but it wasn't, in the end I had to force myself to go to sleep, as I'm writing this, more than 15 hours have passed and I still feel sort of dizzy.

I can tell you that was enough for me, no more vaping, I even thought about quitting weed, like I said, I'm a light consumer who likes to appreciate good things in life with moderation, thus smoking only 2 times per week. Now I know vaping won't do it for me, it is not about the vaping device or the weed, it is about the method of delivery, vaping. It seems vaping gives me a light well-being sedative feeling in low quantities, and in high quantities it just fucks me up.

I decided to stick with what works for me = joints and one hitters, I haven't tried bongs yet.
For this reason I have just made a bong with a plastic bottle and my one hitter and will try it out maybe tomorrow.

All I want is the same effect as smoking from a joint or one hitter without fucking my throat and lungs. For this reason I have also order the jetflash smoking system which has a cool tornado chamber to cool off the air and gives a nice tornado effect and it also includes a bubbler and one-hitter attachments to go with it.

Please comment and give me hope for the future.
 
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ttystikk

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Longer one hitter to cool the smoke, or a water pipe might help. They don't help me much though.

Your experience was due to too much cannabis in too short a time with no tolerance level built up.

Continue to enjoy cannabis in moderation to retain those happy moods and thoughts.

Heavy smoking is for medical patients who need pain relief or relief from anxiety.
 

avillax

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True but like I said, vaping small amounts were only giving me a relaxed sensation and not really a high, whereas very small hits from the one hitter 2-3 were giving me a nice happy a bit energetic high. So I guess it was a nice decision to order the jetflash smoking system, right?

It will arrive next week, I think.
 

GuyLeDuche

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I agree with most of the above, I would also add that temperature is a very powerful variable in vaping. Lower temp hits will provide flavorful hits with more uplifting highs, higher temps the opposite (I think at higher temps the THC is converted to CBN, giving the couchlock effect?). Knowing the device and the symptoms you describe, that may be the most likely culprit. I would say if you feel like trying again you should use the lowest temp, it will give you the most happy effect. Also there's always strain to consider, I know I avoid Super Lemon Haze because it gets me too racey and anxious.
I think some kind of water tool will help some with throat irritation, just be careful you don't get more than you thought in a hit. Sometimes it can be so much smoother than a joint you can hurt yourself. You already know that's no fun....
 

avillax

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Yeah, I wanted to try a long session just vaping on the lowest setting but at the lowest setting it produces very little vapor, one might say "Get a good home vape and take big hits on a low temp setting" but it's too much risk to make such an investment and end up with the same type of effects.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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Sounds like a straight up panic attack my guy. I suffer from panic anxiety disorder, and depending on what I'm smoking on and what cycle of anxiety im in makes all the difference. Either I'm going to be relaxed and feeling good or I'm going to race around the house with a numb asshole and biting my fingernails. It's a crap shoot when trying new strains. Thats why I only grow certain types. Try something else and less of it. Sativa dominant strains tend to make me freak the fuck out. My anxiety disorder came on when I was 24, it came out of nowhere and is still with me at 43. Just saying that there may be other things going on ...
 

avillax

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Different strains = different effects
That is true, but I was vaping the same strain I was smoking and so far the results had been good with smoking. I still have to start growing my stuff, unfortunately until next year
 

Rrog

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As Guy pointed out, lower temp vape = lighter cerebral buzz. Higher temp starts getting you the couch lock.

Combusting releases everything at once so a different buzz. Combustion releases not-so-good compounds, some linked to cancer
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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I wish I knew more about vaping but sadly I do not....However, I have tried my dads vaporizers Q extreme and some Volcano thing. It gets you where you need to go and makes your pot last longer but , (my opinion only) it makes everything taste the same to me and more plant like than anything. I wasn't impressed.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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That's why we're all unique and have different goals. I personally vape almost exclusively and prefer it to combustion. I like the flavor and the reduced carcinogens
Yes,my dad is pissed at me because I do not like his investment lol. Guess he figures since he spent "good money" on it that everyone better like it. I personally use a bong. But I totally agree with you and pops , even though research strongly suggests that the medicinally active part of cannabis will most likely nullify the carcinogens caused by combustion, my lungs still feel like a tar truck has exploded in them. I should reconsider and just get use to the way it tastes. Do you find you go through your stash slower when you vape.? My pops swears by it.
 

ttystikk

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As Guy pointed out, lower temp vape = lighter cerebral buzz. Higher temp starts getting you the couch lock.

Combusting releases everything at once so a different buzz. Combustion releases not-so-good compounds, some linked to cancer
That's why we're all unique and have different goals. I personally vape almost exclusively and prefer it to combustion. I like the flavor and the reduced carcinogens
While there may be carcinogens in pot smoke, it conclusively does NOT cause cancer. Long term meta study done by the American Society of Thoracic Medicine. Same study also showed that smoking cannabis doesn't help you if you smoke tobacco, either.
 

ttystikk

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Yes,my dad is pissed at me because I do not like his investment lol. Guess he figures since he spent "good money" on it that everyone better like it. I personally use a bong. But I totally agree with you and pops , even though research strongly suggests that the medicinally active part of cannabis will most likely nullify the carcinogens caused by combustion, my lungs still feel like a tar truck has exploded in them. I should reconsider and just get use to the way it tastes. Do you find you go through your stash slower when you vape.? My pops swears by it.
Honestly, I don't vape much because I don't like that feeling either.
 

avillax

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Yes,my dad is pissed at me because I do not like his investment lol. Guess he figures since he spent "good money" on it that everyone better like it. I personally use a bong. But I totally agree with you and pops , even though research strongly suggests that the medicinally active part of cannabis will most likely nullify the carcinogens caused by combustion, my lungs still feel like a tar truck has exploded in them. I should reconsider and just get use to the way it tastes. Do you find you go through your stash slower when you vape.? My pops swears by it.
I wish my dad would have smoked weed with me like the other kids :sad:
 

avillax

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Yeah but I only smoke twice a week so I don't even think that will cause minimum harm to my lungs, plus if I pair it up with a water bong then it's clean enough I would say.

I've been looking at many product reviews on youtube and I'm surprised at how the people reviewing them look like total stoners, I don't think they get lots of shit done at work like that. No offense to the stoners in this group but it simply doesn't look good when trying to legalize it. It's like promoting liquors drunk and vomiting...
 

doublejj

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Yeah but I only smoke twice a week so I don't even think that will cause minimum harm to my lungs, plus if I pair it up with a water bong then it's clean enough I would say.

I've been looking at many product reviews on youtube and I'm surprised at how the people reviewing them look like total stoners, I don't think they get lots of shit done at work like that. No offense to the stoners in this group but it simply doesn't look good when trying to legalize it. It's like promoting liquors drunk and vomiting...
we all make lifestyle choices.....best of luck
 

Labs Dexter

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So, as mentioned in other topic I was undecided whether to buy a home vaporizer as I thought my portable one wasn't delivering the goods.

Thing is this: I don't have much weed experience, I used to smoke it as a teen sometimes then I quit for many years, then in Czech Republic they rolled the joint and I got hooked because the quality was great compared to Mexico.

So I bought 2.5 grams of weed and so far it has lasted almost 2 months since I was smoking only twice a week and from a one hitter using very little. The effects were good, I buy this weed at a Russian mafia bar and it is the best quality in the black market. That is, not as good as home-grown stuff and probably harvested late to get more yields but it is OK though more leaning to Indica and not so many giggles.

Anyways, I bought an IMAG vaporizer and vaping through it was giving me light sensations of well-being and feeling calm with a clear head and also tasted really good. Vaping a bit more was giving me a couch-lock kind of feeling and when in the streets it was hard because I felt really slow and sort of locked and so I was becoming withdrawn.
But I wasn't really getting high, to me, high is when you feel really good and happy and feel very optimistic and light-headed and even social, I was having those experiences with the one hitter, not with the vape, but it was fucking my throat and I'm very susceptible to flu and colds.

So I thought I needed to deliver more vapor in every hit in order to make it work, so before buying a home vaporizer I decided to try vaping with my IMAG for longer time, more hits and holding it longer and so yesterday in about 45 minutes I gave it about 8-10 hits on the medium setting and holding it for a while, it was the first time it made me cough so I took it as a good sign.

But throughout the whole process I never really felt a high, I felt a clear head with very sedative feeling, very couch-locking but I also started feeling dizzy and frozen, I could barely move and I didn't want to move, I could tell I had a lot of THC but it wasn't giving me a sensation of wellness, in fact, it was the opposite, I started to feel sort of bad about everything, very negative. I enjoy eating chocolate while high and I did so this time and it started to taste like a toxic paste, everything had a negative tint to it, I even had some very light nausea and also a bit of paranoia, I began to feel that just thinking about stopping my heart was going to stop it, I began to feel I was getting lots of flu even when I wasn't, etc. And I was extremely anxious and dizzy, at times I felt I wanted to cry for help, it was horrible. I started to eat strawberry jam right from the bottle in order to cut it but it wasn't, in the end I had to force myself to go to sleep, as I'm writing this, more than 15 hours have passed and I still feel sort of dizzy.

I can tell you that was enough for me, no more vaping, I even thought about quitting weed, like I said, I'm a light consumer who likes to appreciate good things in life with moderation, thus smoking only 2 times per week. Now I know vaping won't do it for me, it is not about the vaping device or the weed, it is about the method of delivery, vaping. It seems vaping gives me a light well-being sedative feeling in low quantities, and in high quantities it just fucks me up.

I decided to stick with what works for me = joints and one hitters, I haven't tried bongs yet.
For this reason I have just made a bong with a plastic bottle and my one hitter and will try it out maybe tomorrow.

All I want is the same effect as smoking from a joint or one hitter without fucking my throat and lungs. For this reason I have also order the jetflash smoking system which has a cool tornado chamber to cool off the air and gives a nice tornado effect and it also includes a bubbler and one-hitter attachments to go with it.

Please comment and give me hope for the future.
I allways said Street weed is shit weed it probably because of other nutes and stuff unlfushed properly... Since I have been growing my own personal weed I give em more honey than I give my woman lol treat it nice and let it produce it's own natural budds without doing extra with it.
There was a guy in my city apparently because he smoked weed it made him hack an old woman with a axe????!!! That's same as what you had bad weed lol sorry for you to experience that and I would advice like ttystik said take one or two and wait see how it creeps you should know when to stop. Smoke joints is better the hit is more better and you are not squeezing your self with the vape poop, nice little drags mate
 

farmasensist

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I don't like vaping either, makes me feel like what you were describing. Bongs usually hit really hard and choke you up. You should try a bubbler, its like a pipe that has water in it so you can't hit it too hard like a bong but the water still filters some of the harshness out.
 
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