Ohio Legalization (With a catch)

Harrekin

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You've brought up your "plan" a hundred times. One person finally agrees with you.

Like I said, the people don't care for your proposal.
ChesusRice doesn't realise that it's better for everyone if you can:
•grow it
•smoke it
•give it away
•trade it to your neighbour for strawberries
•buy some in the store if you run out and yours is still drying

Uncooked potatoes can kill you...unripe tomatoes... they're not restricted, why should something that can't kill you and gives you a buzz about as extreme physically as coffee be restricted?
 

Rob Roy

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If people didn't hold out for full legalization or oppose it because they would lose money It would be legal to grow and possess by now
Sounds like the mewling of an abused person who thinks if they just stay out of abusive daddy's way when he's drunk, everything will be okay in the morning. A good therapist might be able to help you work thru this, Prohibitionist.
 

ginwilly

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ChesusRice doesn't realise that it's better for everyone if you can:
•grow it
•smoke it
•give it away
•trade it to your neighbour for strawberries
•buy some in the store if you run out and yours is still drying

Uncooked potatoes can kill you...unripe tomatoes... they're not restricted, why should something that can't kill you and gives you a buzz about as extreme physically as coffee be restricted?
A liquor/pot store would be a good business.

He's stubbornly holding onto not letting people who can't grow use pot. I still don't understand the logic.
 

ChesusRice

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You guys are fucking idiots.
I've said it a hundred times
In states where it is currently illegal

Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell is the fastest way to legalization.

Lots of examples of even trying to get medical passed failing the ballot because people are hung up on the sales part.

You are intentionally mispresenting my position
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
You guys are fucking idiots.
I've said it a hundred times
In states where it is currently illegal

Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell is the fastest way to legalization.

Lots of examples of even trying to get medical passed failing the ballot because people are hung up on the sales part.

You are intentionally mispresenting my position

When you are discussing the hours and working conditions of slavery, you are not talking abolishment of slavery, you are talking about making slavery more palatable, Toby.

You've also morphed the rationale for your original position a bit because you realize it was ill conceived and contradictory, not to mention stupid and boot lickingly sycophantic, Prohibitionist.

Plus your dogs are no doubt neutered like your friend London Fog was. I suggest you and he move to Somalia where you can freely grow a couple of scraggly ass plants and he can ride a motor cycle without having to face the wrath of his domineering wife.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
We know...LOL
It doesn't really make any more sense than the other 99 times did either.

Believe it or not I understand the rationale though. I just don't agree with it. Accept shitty laws to get the door opened then proceed from there. That's just bad though. Shitty laws rarely get repealed, they just get new shiny laws in addition to...
 

droopy107

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It doesn't really make any more sense than the other 99 times did either.

Believe it or not I understand the rationale though. I just don't agree with it. Accept shitty laws to get the door opened then proceed from there. That's just bad though. Shitty laws rarely get repealed, they just get new shiny laws in addition to...
You're right, shitty laws rarely get repealed, but they do get tweaked as time goes by. It's a rare law that gets passed and stays the same as time goes by. Much more often than not, lawmakers have to amend a law to account for unintended consequences, misuse or poor initial wording that hampers the original intent. That's how government works and it's a necessary evil. Without that we couldn't even get started because a perfect law that pleases everyone would be hard to design and the fear of not getting perfection on the first try would paralyze the process, much as the case has been with legalization initiatives in so many states.

To the majority of people who will vote on this, it doesn't make one tiny pinch of shit's worth of difference to them if you and I get to grow or buy weed unencumbered by the law of the land. Their only concern is that it doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. These people need to have their fears addressed even if that means that it isn't perfect for us to begin with. At the end of the day we need their vote to get started.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
You're right, shitty laws rarely get repealed, but they do get tweaked as time goes by. It's a rare law that gets passed and stays the same as time goes by. Much more often than not, lawmakers have to amend a law to account for unintended consequences, misuse or poor initial wording that hampers the original intent. That's how government works and it's a necessary evil. Without that we couldn't even get started because a perfect law that pleases everyone would be hard to design and the fear of not getting perfection on the first try would paralyze the process, much as the case has been with legalization initiatives in so many states.

To the majority of people who will vote on this, it doesn't make one tiny pinch of shit's worth of difference to them if you and I get to grow or buy weed unencumbered by the law of the land. Their only concern is that it doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. These people need to have their fears addressed even if that means that it isn't perfect for us to begin with. At the end of the day we need their vote to get started.
Here you can get 10 years for growing moar than a few plants...

I ain't gonna quit smoking it up.
 

UncleBuck

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I like the way it is in Colorado.
However legislation like that wont ever be here in my lifetime. I'm a realist.
what you're worried about has already happened here. you need half a million just to get started. only $25k of that is licensing though.

the black market is still alive and well here. i can move indoor for anywhere from 1600-2300 a pound. even outdoor shit gets 1000 a pound. cops just don't care anymore.
 

ChesusRice

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what you're worried about has already happened here. you need half a million just to get started. only $25k of that is licensing though.

the black market is still alive and well here. i can move indoor for anywhere from 1600-2300 a pound. even outdoor shit gets 1000 a pound. cops just don't care anymore.
Why would they?
Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell like in Washington DC is Nicknamed "the dealer protection act"
Cops don't give a shit. It's not worth the trouble for them

And it passed with the largest majority of voters to date in marijuana legalization efforts
 

Aeroknow

Well-Known Member
what you're worried about has already happened here. you need half a million just to get started. only $25k of that is licensing though.

the black market is still alive and well here. i can move indoor for anywhere from 1600-2300 a pound. even outdoor shit gets 1000 a pound. cops just don't care anymore.
2300 from blackmarket? Not too shabby!
Who knows what is going to happen in the near future now that ab266 passed here in california. Might make the blackmarket a little better again?
Right now i can only get 2200 from blackmarket, and yet 2500 from a few different clubs I deal with here in NorCal, for the stickiest of the ickiest.
 

ChesusRice

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2300 from blackmarket? Not too shabby!
Who knows what is going to happen in the near future now that ab266 passed here in california. Might make the blackmarket a little better again?
Right now i can only get 2200 from blackmarket, and yet 2500 from a few different clubs I deal with here in NorCal, for the stickiest of the ickiest.
Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell
You be lucky to get 500 a lb and that is only if other states stay illegal
 
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