The Ultimate Odour Control Thread

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thinn

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BobCajun said:
I read where somebody posted that if you put Ona in your grow space the smell will be absorbed into the buds and make them taste like Ona. It's not going to neutralize weed odor anyway because Ona is a mixture of terpenes and terpenes is exactly what makes weed smell. Terpenes can neutralize other odor compounds but I don't think they can neutralize other terpenes. It would just be covering the weed smell with Ona smell. Far as I know, the only ways to get rid of terpenes is carbon or oxidation. I wonder what would happen if you passed the air through a bed of those white oxy crystals, calcium percarbonate. Would it oxidize them at all? Probably not but maybe some. Too bad a catalytic converter requires temps of 3-400 degrees C.
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You are indeed correct!

I helped my friend get setup, he was not happy with the smell so I brought him som ona gel (I personally use phresh filters for yrs now and never had one fail me) because he did not want the filter. Any who, once we pulled the plants down the smoke was pretty damn good other then the fact that the whole grow ended up tasting exactly like the ona gel. Had to scrap it and start over with a phresh filter, which came out great!
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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Regarding ONA and liquids, gels etc you should look for a product called Revoke - Smoke Odour Remover, someone has relabeled it TOKE (Tobacco Odour Eliminator) in a few shops. I googled it and unfortunately couldn't find anything? Its a liquid spray that smells a bit like a hedge or a freshly rained on bush :hump: that's right so maybe thats why its hard to find any...

It might be discontinued now but they had some on a fancy tobacconists website recently so I bought 3 bottles, he said he couldn't get anymore but that it was very effective. I can second that because even with my big fans running at negative pressure I do get a whiff of weed occasionally in the house, no more though just a pleasant smell of the great outdoors? 1 litre costs £9.95 and mixes 50/50 with water, then add those water absorbent crystals, bingo you get about 2.5 litres of ONA but its much better for about £12 :bigjoint:
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Suppose you wanted your buds to taste like oranges. Would leaving some orange oil out in a container in the grow space impart the flavor like the Ona did?
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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BobCajun said:
Suppose you wanted your buds to taste like oranges. Would leaving some orange oil out in a container in the grow space impart the flavor like the Ona did?
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Yes if you buy lemongrass oil and mix it with water using polysorbate 20 and sit 100ml in a pot beneath your plant it will take in the oils fragrance through the stomata and adsorb it in the cells before exchanging its gas back to the external atmospheeerrree, try it I have some great paperwork by my brother I can share on this subject, adding flavour is best by the breathing rather than the roots its a fact!
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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Cl@rksville said:
Yes if you buy lemongrass oil and mix it with water using polysorbate 20 and sit 100ml in a pot beneath your plant it will take in the oils fragrance through the stomata and adsorb it in the cells before exchanging its gas back to the external atmospheeerrree, try it I have some great paperwork by my brother I can share on this subject, adding flavour is best by the breathing rather than the roots its a fact!
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It has to be mixed with water using a fatty acid so it evaporates, oil alone may not work?
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Cl@rksville said:
It has to be mixed with water using a fatty acid so it evaporates, oil alone may not work?
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Interesting. It should work with the pure oil though, unless the water vapor helps carry the oil molecules like when essential oils are steam distilled. Maybe if you spread the oil out on crystals like the Ona.
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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BobCajun said:
Interesting. It should work with the pure oil though, unless the water vapor helps carry the oil molecules like when essential oils are steam distilled. Maybe if you spread the oil out on crystals like the Ona.
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The crystals won't absorb oil you would need to add polysorbate, the polymers are cross linked and need water to activate them. The plant can't smell like us but will adsorb the odour in its adhesion to the cell walls, imagine a bucket with oil on its sides then throwing water on them, it slides down back to the water but leaves a film yeah? Its kind of same thing...
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Cl@rksville said:
The crystals won't absorb oil you would need to add polysorbate, the polymers are cross linked and need water to activate them. The plant can't smell like us but will adsorb the odour in its adhesion to the cell walls, imagine a bucket with oil on its sides then throwing water on them, it slides down back to the water but leaves a film yeah? Its kind of same thing...
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Only problem being; where ya gonna get polysorbate conveniently? Ah screw it. Better just to grow flavorful strains.
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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BobCajun said:
Only problem being; where ya gonna get polysorbate conveniently? Ah screw it. Better just to grow flavorful strains.
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Ha its readily available in any candle maker hobby shops, try eBay search google for 'tween' coconut fatty acid, emulsifier etc... its very cheap and also added to your nutrients for coco growers its an exceptional wetting agent that breaks down silicates, fats, aids calcium transport, magnesium uptake and is generally very good for foliar feeding anything such as insecticide treatments.
 
Anon Emaus

Anon Emaus

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It may have been posted earlier but I only skimmed through 10 pages. But I just ordered one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-TrueAir-Room-Eliminator/dp/B002SHCEVG/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1446655508&sr=8-15&keywords=carbon+filter
$25, runs air thru three carbon filters, states good for a 10x10 room, says it's good for 3 months before filter change, pack of 3 filters(need 3 at a time) are $10. Keep in mind it's a small unit, only 8.5" x 8.5" x 10", for smaller jobs like mine. Also it's Not a regular ole air purifier which there's tons of out there, this one uses carbon filters.

I cannot exhaust with venting or ducting, so I have been just using ONA gel. I only grow one plant in the closet, with door always open on closet, in a spare bedroom. But it still stinks up the house, I keep a bunch of ONA by the door of that room but it's not strong enough. I read some good reviews by growers on this product, sounds perfect for a small grow like mine. I should have it in the mail either today or tomorrow and I'll update with results!

BTW I chose blue mystic for my current grow due to the low odor claim, this shit stinks worse than my last grow(started stinking sooner too, veg was even dank) which was just a bag seed.
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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Anon Emaus said:
It may have been posted earlier but I only skimmed through 10 pages. But I just ordered one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-TrueAir-Room-Eliminator/dp/B002SHCEVG/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1446655508&sr=8-15&keywords=carbon filter
$25, runs air thru three carbon filters, states good for a 10x10 room, says it's good for 3 months before filter change, pack of 3 filters(need 3 at a time) are $10. Keep in mind it's a small unit, only 8.5" x 8.5" x 10", for smaller jobs like mine. Also it's Not a regular ole air purifier which there's tons of out there, this one uses carbon filters.

I cannot exhaust with venting or ducting, so I have been just using ONA gel.
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ONA products are sadly just as 'gimicky' as most hydroponic related products imo. I have used them and although they definetily exhibit good fragrance qualities and you can smell its familair scent, it just doesn't do the trick imex.
 
SamsonsRiddle

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Anon Emaus said:
It may have been posted earlier but I only skimmed through 10 pages. But I just ordered one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-TrueAir-Room-Eliminator/dp/B002SHCEVG/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1446655508&sr=8-15&keywords=carbon filter
$25, runs air thru three carbon filters, states good for a 10x10 room, says it's good for 3 months before filter change, pack of 3 filters(need 3 at a time) are $10. Keep in mind it's a small unit, only 8.5" x 8.5" x 10", for smaller jobs like mine. Also it's Not a regular ole air purifier which there's tons of out there, this one uses carbon filters.

I cannot exhaust with venting or ducting, so I have been just using ONA gel. I only grow one plant in the closet, with door always open on closet, in a spare bedroom. But it still stinks up the house, I keep a bunch of ONA by the door of that room but it's not strong enough. I read some good reviews by growers on this product, sounds perfect for a small grow like mine. I should have it in the mail either today or tomorrow and I'll update with results!

BTW I chose blue mystic for my current grow due to the low odor claim, this shit stinks worse than my last grow(started stinking sooner too, veg was even dank) which was just a bag seed.
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coffee and skunk? lol low-odor my ass
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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SamsonsRiddle said:
coffee and skunk? lol low-odor my ass
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Yes mother nature tends to win everytime against top secret bs gel doesn't it...

I copied this and added a bit myself but it should be a stickie on the threads for anyone growing in a non legal state!

THE SMELL OF SKUNK ON YOUR CLOTHES, TRAINERS, HANDS AND EVEN YOUR HAIR ISN'T SMELLED BY THE PERSON WHO STINKS OF IT... BUT EVERYONE ELSE SMELLS IT LIKE A FRESH BUDS BEEN POPPED RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE.... DON'T GET LAZY WITH TRIMMING AND ODOUR TRANSFER!!! YOUR SKIN SEEMS TO ABSORB IT TOO AND IT COMES OUT OF YOUR PORES AND GETS ON THE PILLOW DURING SWEATS!!! ITS STUPID TO TRIM AND THEN RUN YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL FOR EXAMPLE BUT I SMELL A GUY EVERY 3-4 MONTHS WHOM I KNOW GROWS BECAUSE HE WREAKS AROUND HARVEST TIME AND THE PARENTS N TEACHERS ALL SAY "MY GOD HE STINKS OF WEED.... " I JUST SMILE... BUT IT MAKES ME PARANOID EVEN MORE!

ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES, GET A PLASTIC SUIT OR CHANGE OF CLOTHES AND EVEN A HAIR BAG!!!

ALWAYS CARRY A STRONG DEODORANT FOR YOUR SKIN AND AIR FRESHENER IN THE CAR GIVE YOURSELF A GOOD RUBBING DOWN OF ORANGE OIL OR LEMON OIL BEFORE GOING ANYWHERE & ALWAYS CARRY A BIT OF LEMONGRASS OIL IN THE CAR... RUB A BIT ON SEATBELTS AS THEY ABSORB ODOURS AND COPPERS WILL POP THEIR HEAD IN AND HAVE A WHIFF OF THIS AREA JUST WATCH THEM ON TV!!!

POLICE USED TO FIND YOUR PERSONAL AND ACCEPT THIS WAS THE SOURCE OF THE ODOUR BUT NOT ANYMORE CHAPS!!! THEY ASSUME YOU HAVE MORE OR YOU ARE A GROWER... THE SMELL OF FRESHLY TRIMMED WEED IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM STORED DRY BUD TO THE TRAINED NOSE!!!

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE ABOVE YOU AIN'T GROWING THE PROPER TACKLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
 
Cl@rksville

Cl@rksville

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Voidling said:
I talked to a guy that makes and sells an ionizer who says ionizers don't work for odors, or four mold/mildew spores. The two things I need help with
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Interesting as I kind of had the impression it did, however I don't know from any personal experiences but worth taking note of.
 
SamsonsRiddle

SamsonsRiddle

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there is so many conflicting views on mold removal/smells.

One of the corporate guys who came into fix a moldy room just put an ozone generator (a big fucker) in the room and turned it on full blast. He then told us to run it a couple hours 3 times a day - to fix our mold problem.

There are people in the room next door...is this safe?

I know it won't fix the mold problem, but how dangerous is it, and how properly would you even use an ozone generator for anything.
 
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