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Mad Hamish · Oct 31, 2015

DSinatra said:
I agree but I'm involved in the industry and it's something alot of people frown upon if you don't get the ok to use the breeders work for your own. Politics. If you look earlier in this post at the pic I posted of the golden triangle and mothers milk is have are only 6 weeks old and so frosty already. Very impressive males and very promising. Excellent males to breed with and I'm gonna hit the nl5 with it that was frosted right out the seed. A buddy will stock my gear at a seed banks to start. So without permission I wouldn't be very successful

Nothing wrong with some respect it is the real currency between heads.

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

Sweet Skunk x 88g13/hp testers about 6-7 weeks in. Smell is amazing so hard to describe like sweet grapefruit orange cream orange Julius like lol

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

Also got 3 ladies from 5 Kastu Bubbas x 88g13/hp and 4 ladies from 5 Alaskan Thunderfuck x a11g f3. All 4 seeds that popped were females but there was two twin with two of them one was culled the other was kept and turned out to be the only male. I didn't keep him as still have beans but maybe I should have since the female ratio seems to be high with them. Oh well just hope there is one in the beans left. They aren't in the best shape and I'm still vegging them so once I get them right I will show them. The a11g cross is fucking huge lol should be a nice sativa cross smells great too

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

Oh here is my Hashplant 3 keeper too. This run is much better than the test run no rogue pollen the main reason lol but looks totally different that seed run.

JDGreen · Oct 31, 2015

Mad Hamish said:
You misunderstand. What me and @HGK420 are saying is the idea that quality and quantity are a trade off is total bullshit. A KEEPER has it all. High cannabinoid content, unique and strong terpene signature, good yield. It is only since I got into Californian weed that this idea of trading off quality versus quantity became a popular one I came across. Asking for all if these traits is reasonable. Wanting that on a fast finisher is being damn picky. But it is still possible. I have two like this now. The Dank Zappa pheno and two of my phenos of Cherry AK x Joseph I have from a Gage test. Each bean there was a winner though but I got two fast finishers that have the same quality and massive yields their sisters do. Here and there things fall in place just perfectly.

I was gunna say the same thing. I almost aleays assume there os a pheno that is just as potent as what i would get but is a better yielder. It is typical that ultra high potency comes with a lower yield but often u can match quality and have at least average yield. I would say a 5-6 oz plant in a five gallon could meet the potency of the same strain same structure in a five gallom yielding 3-4.

HGK420 · Oct 31, 2015

JDGreen said:
I was gunna say the same thing. I almost aleays assume there os a pheno that is just as potent as what i would get but is a better yielder. It is typical that ultra high potency comes with a lower yield but often u can match quality and have at least average yield. I would say a 5-6 oz plant in a five gallon could meet the potency of the same strain same structure in a five gallom yielding 3-4.

Well aren't you in for a surprise someday...

I had this same mindset for a long time.. I justified it by thinking "the plant only has so many cells it can produce" these cells then turn into fruit and stalks and leaves and just plain plant.. lol... Anyway I used to think with the limited number of cells a plant would only be able to produce so much and only has so much potential... Buuuut that's wayyyyy not right..

a plant with zero stress and proper nutrition will produce more cells in the long run then a plant that's not fed right in a shitty room... So right there is a big gap. You can't ever expect full potential out of s strain if you aren't feeding it right in a hot box..

Also all plants are not created equal... There's isn't a baseline number of cells a plant can produce.. You could line up 10 plants of nearly identical genetics and you will see massive amounts of variation in the amount of total cells DONT FORGET about designation of energy.. For whatever reason some strains just LOVE producing wood(stem) and they streeeeeeeeeeeeeethc others love producing flower but just can't get a handle on producing oils... Super weak..

I currently have an OG that is easily 300% tighter node spacing then your average OG. It produces GIANT flowers easily 20-30% heavier then my other og's. The buds are dripping with oil and resin.. And she's a solid 8-9 weeker. (Other OG is 10-11) she's a beaut!

Long story short, look at people.. What percentage of winning strongmen come from Viking areas and look like Vikings? It wouldn't of mattered if I started lifting heavy shit when I was 4 I'm not gonna outlift Gunnar gunderson...

Another way to look at it would be, can an athlete Be smart? The answer is very much so yes. Can an athlete be a painter? Again very much so yes... But does that mean all athletes are smart and painters? Very much so no! Gotta find those special Spartan babies and throw the rest off the cliff!

calicat · Oct 31, 2015

Whoa broski an OG class that produces big and with a shorter flower time. Hmm since you cats been talking about Kharma lately is the strain you running a Hells Angel X?

JDGreen · Oct 31, 2015

HGK420 said:
Well aren't you in for a surprise someday...

I had this same mindset for a long time.. I justified it by thinking "the plant only has so many cells it can produce" these cells then turn into fruit and stalks and leaves and just plain plant.. lol... Anyway I used to think with the limited number of cells a plant would only be able to produce so much and only has so much potential... Buuuut that's wayyyyy not right..

a plant with zero stress and proper nutrition will produce more cells in the long run then a plant that's not fed right in a shitty room... So right there is a big gap. You can't ever expect full potential out of s strain if you aren't feeding it right in a hot box..

Also all plants are not created equal... There's isn't a baseline number of cells a plant can produce.. You could line up 10 plants of nearly identical genetics and you will see massive amounts of variation in the amount of total cells DONT FORGET about designation of energy.. For whatever reason some strains just LOVE producing wood(stem) and they streeeeeeeeeeeeeethc others love producing flower but just can't get a handle on producing oils... Super weak..

I currently have an OG that is easily 300% tighter node spacing then your average OG. It produces GIANT flowers easily 20-30% heavier then my other og's. The buds are dripping with oil and resin.. And she's a solid 8-9 weeker. (Other OG is 10-11) she's a beaut!

Long story short, look at people.. What percentage of winning strongmen come from Viking areas and look like Vikings? It wouldn't of mattered if I started lifting heavy shit when I was 4 I'm not gonna outlift Gunnar gunderson...

Another way to look at it would be, can an athlete Be smart? The answer is very much so yes. Can an athlete be a painter? Again very much so yes... But does that mean all athletes are smart and painters? Very much so no! Gotta find those special Spartan babies and throw the rest off the cliff!

I think u may have misunderstood, i agree. My point is that some phenos are gunna yield better some will yoeld less and some more. That in my experience yield isnt strongly correlated with potency. There may br a tendency but i havent seen it.
And of course health of the plant greatly influences yield, and early harvest amd training and size. Regardless, i feel like the discussion on hpw often u get amazing strains is a long one. So heres a pic of a happy little moutain temple and some SSDD

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

calicat said:
Whoa broski an OG class that produces big and with a shorter flower time. Hmm since you cats been talking about Kharma lately is the strain you running a Hells Angel X?

I def would like to know about what OG he is running too. The only OG I've seen produce somewhat like that is the Legend OG other than that I don't know any that has super tight node spacing

Bob Zmuda · Oct 31, 2015

akhiymjames said:
I def would like to know about what OG he is running too. The only OG I've seen produce somewhat like that is the Legend OG other than that I don't know any that has super tight node spacing

Fwiw my face off and kirkwood og from archive produced huge tight buds unlike any og I've run. Amazing pine earth citrus og funk. Highly recommended.

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

Bob Zmuda said:
Fwiw my face off and kirkwood og from archive produced huge tight buds unlike any og I've run. Amazing pine earth citrus og funk. Highly recommended.

Can you post some pics in the Archive thread bro if you have some? I would like to see some real super tight nodes on a OG and not the major space between nodes; those two are the only thing that interests me from Archive.

HGK420 · Oct 31, 2015

calicat said:
Whoa broski an OG class that produces big and with a shorter flower time. Hmm since you cats been talking about Kharma lately is the strain you running a Hells Angel X?

It's the one brought to us all due to a collab between karma and coca cola!

A breeder of pointed greens recently released an entire line using this OG as the stud...

Absolute vigor monster and flavor/potency wise it's impossible to tell apart from my holy grail kush. Gas front end with a skunky body and just a sprinkle of citrus/Orange on the exhale. Like 1% orange too so don't get it twisted she's gas/skunk all day.

Also got a pineapple pheno that's mind boggling. Pineapple gas are the 2 words to describe it and you didn't miss a thing. It's sooooo pineappley and gassy it's nuts.

My favorite part is the picture up at the tude does it ZERO justice. If I woulda had only that picture to choose this strain I never never never never would of picked it lol... Idk why but the picture looks like a small little minuscule not very healthy bud.. Very much the opposite of what she's really bringin to the table.

I got the tip to buy it in the first place when the breeder of pointed greens said on his Instagram what a monster yielder she was... unknown to me at that time was he planned on dusting his whole 50+ female stable with it... So he was kinda setting up early hype for himself, but I took it at face value and took a chance on a breeder talking up other breeders and I got lucky! Also shows me the breeder of pointed greens ain't no bullshit artist.

Bob Zmuda · Oct 31, 2015

akhiymjames said:
Can you post some pics in the Archive thread bro if you have some? I would like to see some real super tight nodes on a OG and not the major space between nodes; those two are the only thing that interests me from Archive.

Will do bro. Outta town and they're on my computer. When I'm back.

MonsterDrank · Oct 31, 2015

some a11g f3

HGK420 · Oct 31, 2015

Here's a little teen that's part of a bit of a failed experiment. Pro mix coco instead of all peat with organic amendments and teas.. Not liking it for some reason, probably the coco not breaking down fast enough.. But either Way with less then ideal nutrition these girls are still stacking 2-3x tighter then my hgk... I've flowered clones of hgk and they end up 4-5 FEET tall and I've seen lots of other og's show this same stretch but this girl feels more like a blue dream cross to me. Very stout stems that are mostly hollow at harvest. Holy Gail needs a stake for EVERY SINGLE branch... Not this one..she needs some staking but u reckon I don't have enough wind in veg either so I'd bet you could go stakeless with her.

andre 3000 would approve very much of this strains "cool" factor... Lol

Lemme know if you guys get it.. Feel free to name it but in case you were wanting to keep it low key I've left it vague.. Lol kinda.. Any half stoned seed hound knows the strain I'm talkin about I bet .. But still lets just put it this way.. When I found my winner I quit worrying that my holy grail is now making her rounds around Michigan, she's a queen If I've ever seen one, sooo you mayyy want to keep the cryptic nonsense up.. Or not.. Lol..

HGK420 · Oct 31, 2015

JDGreen said:
I think u may have misunderstood, i agree. My point is that some phenos are gunna yield better some will yoeld less and some more. That in my experience yield isnt strongly correlated with potency. There may br a tendency but i havent seen it.
And of course health of the plant greatly influences yield, and early harvest amd training and size. Regardless, i feel like the discussion on hpw often u get amazing strains is a long one. So heres a pic of a happy little moutain temple and some SSDDView attachment 3532628 View attachment 3532629

Ya basically the formula sorta holds true... It's easier to find a good tasting high potency WITHOUTyield then it is to find one WITH.. But they exsist.

I'd wager that 95% of pleasant tasting highly potent strains had shit yield.. But not all... And I'd wager that 90+% of the monster yielders ive had tasted like cardboard... But not all! It's just like people really.. We're not all rocket surgeon Olympians.. But a few exsist!

Oand bonus points for the milk jug labels! I rocked em for ages!

Check these out http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CTGV8PO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

Can get even better deals if you buy 1000 as well.. They don't fall off and stay with the plant from seedling - harvest no matter how many transplants you do, I love them!

MonsterDrank · Oct 31, 2015

HGK420 said:
.. It's easier to find a good tasting high potency WITHOUTyield then it is to find one WITH.. But they exsist.

I'd wager that 95% of pleasant tasting highly potent strains had shit yield..

It can take some searching through those packs.. but by just not running strains that are known to be medium to low yielding plants.. sticking with the strains that are more likely to chunk out.. you'll more than likely turn the tables in your favor.

I've obtained a few real heavy hitters that score across the board with great performance in all categories that I sought.. but it did take some hunting.. and just as importantly... my initial strain choices and selection from when I was choosing which seeds to run.. that plays as important of a factor.

akhiymjames · Oct 31, 2015

MonsterDrank said:
It can take some searching through those packs.. but by just not running strains that are known to be medium to low yielding plants.. sticking with the strains that are more likely to chunk out.. you'll more than likely turn the tables in your favor.

I've obtained a few real heavy hitters that score across the board with great performance in all categories that I sought.. but it did take some hunting.. and just as importantly... my initial strain choices and selection from when I was choosing which seeds to run.. that plays as important of a factor.

I agree 100% with that. You start with genetics that are known to yield very well with good quality too then its a lil more in your favor to find something the yields with great potency. People always ask me how cookie crosses yield and I say if you asking about yield with that then you shouldn't be looking at cookies cus they aren't big yielders but they can yield ok with right training and setup

HGK420 · Oct 31, 2015

akhiymjames said:
I agree 100% with that. You start with genetics that are known to yield very well with good quality too then its a lil more in your favor to find something the yields with great potency. People always ask me how cookie crosses yield and I say if you asking about yield with that then you shouldn't be looking at cookies cus they aren't big yielders but they can yield ok with right training and setup

Tell that to norcal_icmag and his cookie breath shit. I've never had it but it's supposed to be a cookie and it stacks 20-30 nodes per cola... It's sick.. Ya it'd ogkb OG kush breath.... Wait.. I think it's a cookie cross but now idk.. I haven't followed him on IG for months but I'm pretty sure it's a cookies/OG cross that has arm length colas.. The unicorns are out there!

And Blue dream crosses you would think pass on good yield and flavor but it's rare.. Sure most are mediocre yields better then an OG but they are very much not all stacked. The few crosses I've found that want to stack like the original blue dream cuts I've seen are maybe 1in10 and then most are just hybridized mediocre plants.. Some of the blue dream crosses are from a lot of yalls favorite breeders too. Soooo I disagree on it just needing a high yielding parent.. It's more about genetics that are able to pass on or dominant genes. Some breeders are awesome at finding parents that have yielding dominant genes but they are damn near terp free in my experience (the old school dutch)

So I guess I half agree. Parents are key but not just a high yielding parent, it's all about what genes actually pass and how often.

MonsterDrank · Oct 31, 2015

akhiymjames said:
People always ask me how cookie crosses yield and I say if you asking about yield with that then you shouldn't be looking at cookies ..

Exactly.. and is why I've never tried GSC.. I'm sure it's dank but that saucer shaped footprint on the floor would rather be utilized making 3-5+ ounces of another variety.. than an ounce or less of thinmint whatever.

My A11g, A13BX, Citrus Grove are all high performing strains that yield like monsters... but I admit I do have a couple others like Starfighter and Chernobyl that are guilty pleasures. Starfighter actually isn't bad. I get an ounce per gal soil used on avg with that one..Chernobyl GT cut, not so great with yield. I only keep one clone at a time of the lower yielding plants.. but have a multiple cuts of each of the others on standby.. ready to rock and roll.

HGK420 said:
.. Parents are key but not just a high yielding parent, it's all about what genes actually pass and how often.

and if u feel like making it a life long project to pheno hunt one strain.

theres too many other good crosses,things out there.

i myself won't spend months or years searching for a good yielding GSC keeper,lol

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