HOW TO GET A POUND OFF A 600 w hps

sky rocket

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how many plants should you have under a 600 w hps
You can use 30-36 2 liter bottles in a sog. 6-8" rooted clones straight to 12/12. With a good sog strain you can avg 10-15 grams per plant. Do he math my mind. Boom! Another way you can veg 10-16 rooted clones for 3 weeks and put them in any medium you want. This style I would lollipop and top during veg to eliminate larf. Man there's so many ways to skin a cat. I like to try different things to see what best suits me. Right now I have 9 super lemon haze(veg for 3 weeks under 250 mh) now flowering under my 600. I hate vegging. If it was up to me I would do sog all day but I don't have the capability to keep so many moms to do so. Good luck I hope this helps.
 

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Madagascar

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You can use 30-36 2 liter bottles in a sog. 6-8" rooted clones straight to 12/12. With a good sog strain you can avg 10-15 grams per plant. Do he math my mind. Boom! Another way you can veg 10-16 rooted clones for 3 weeks and put them in any medium you want. This style I would lollipop and top during veg to eliminate larf. Man there's so many ways to skin a cat. I like to try different things to see what best suits me. Right now I have 9 super lemon haze(veg for 3 weeks under 250 mh) now flowering under my 600. I hate vegging. If it was up to me I would do sog all day but I don't have the capability to keep so many moms to do so. Good luck I hope this helps.
Ive identified mother plant just put in 2 gallon pot gonna try to clone as many as possible and do SOG in a couple weeks. How do you ensure clone growth? thats always been a problem with me
 

DesertGrow89

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Waddup growers, I was wondering how to get a pound off a 600w bps 4*4 tent.what additives to use? Or should I veg longer? N 2 weeks I'm going to run 8 plants in the tent STRAIN LSD barneys farm all clones? if any body grow this strain what's the remedy to it???
Well you maximize yield by having excellent leaf and flower development as you flip to flower. So veg long and keep it simple
 

Canna_Man

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Waddup growers, I was wondering how to get a pound off a 600w bps 4*4 tent.what additives to use? Or should I veg longer? N 2 weeks I'm going to run 8 plants in the tent STRAIN LSD barneys farm all clones? if any body grow this strain what's the remedy to it???
600w ballasts and bulbs can produce 1.5 lbs per light. A pound would be on the average or lower end. The number one thing you need to remember and focus on is that it is important that you have the correct growing environment and are utilizing the space to the best ability.

Starting with great genetics is also going to determine your yields and overall success regardless of the room size or light source.

And always remember the bigger the roots the bigger the fruits. I think many people overlook the importance of your veg and having the proper container size and making sure your rhizosphere is being maintained in running optimal efficiency. Beneficial microbes, fungus and bacteria will play an exponential role in your yield and quality. Focusing on the veg will impact your bloom 100% and to me is the most important part of any grow that is often over looked. You want your plants to be the biggest and healthiest you can get them before you move into flowering. Ensuring that you have limited to no stress and have healthy disease, pest and defiency free plants which will set you up for abundant and healthy harvests.

And of course nutrients will ultimately effect your yields. You need to figure out if you want quality, quantity or both. And depending on what nutrients and methods of growing you choose will all culminate in your final results.

So basically there are so many independent factors that go into getting bountiful harvests these are just a few if the main things to focus on for success.
 

green_machine_two9er

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Recently been cramming 12 3 g pots under each 600. I have 4 hoods so there are a few plants in between hoods.

2-2.5 oz per plant. 3 week veg. Bam. 24oz/600 w. And i have zero "larf" just trimmed up 6 plants and have 10 grams of trimm no little nugs or crap at all. Loveing this new way. I used to do 4 10 g pots. 3-4 oz each. Works but this is way easier.
 

sky rocket

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Recently been cramming 12 3 g pots under each 600. I have 4 hoods so there are a few plants in between hoods.

2-2.5 oz per plant. 3 week veg. Bam. 24oz/600 w. And i have zero "larf" just trimmed up 6 plants and have 10 grams of trimm no little nugs or crap at all. Loveing this new way. I used to do 4 10 g pots. 3-4 oz each. Works but this is way easier.
So let me make sure I understand this correctly because I'm trying to figure of the best use of my 4-600 watts. You run 12 three gallon pots under each 600 and you average 24 zips? What medium are you using and are you hand feeding or auto?
 

Canna_Man

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So let me make sure I understand this correctly because I'm trying to figure of the best use of my 4-600 watts. You run 12 three gallon pots under each 600 and you average 24 zips? What medium are you using and are you hand feeding or auto?
Thats easily attainable. He is getting 2 ounces per plant using 12 containers (3gallon).

If I was to guess he is using either a peat/coco blend or straight coco/perlite to get those results doing drain to waste. Thats the way I would do it if you want to get those yields thats were you need to be at!!

Good work my friend keep it growing
 

green_machine_two9er

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Thats easily attainable. He is getting 2 ounces per plant using 12 containers (3gallon).

If I was to guess he is using either a peat/coco blend or straight coco/perlite to get those results doing drain to waste. Thats the way I would do it if you want to get those yields thats were you need to be at!!

Good work my friend keep it growing
I use ammended soil. Water only recipe. Ewc molasses tea every 3 weeks or so. Its all about the organics for me.
 

green_machine_two9er

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So let me make sure I understand this correctly because I'm trying to figure of the best use of my 4-600 watts. You run 12 three gallon pots under each 600 and you average 24 zips? What medium are you using and are you hand feeding or auto?
Yes. Hand water 2x a week (give or take) my super soil recipe is highly ammended and resused over and over. If your interested check out my journals. Recent post have my updated soil recipe. Leave24 inches between each hood. This space. ( if lights are properlly spaced and 18 inches aboce canopy) is just as good for lighting as dirrectlu under hoods. In fact these plants routinely do better!
 

ShLUbY

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Recently been cramming 12 3 g pots under each 600. I have 4 hoods so there are a few plants in between hoods.

2-2.5 oz per plant. 3 week veg. Bam. 24oz/600 w. And i have zero "larf" just trimmed up 6 plants and have 10 grams of trimm no little nugs or crap at all. Loveing this new way. I used to do 4 10 g pots. 3-4 oz each. Works but this is way easier.
i've thought about doing this. i totally would with some blumats. self watering, living soil, rocking it. nice stuff man.


my favorite way to break a lb on 600 is 4 plants, with a nice even canopy all the way across a larger hood for that little bit of extra spread. to this effect:

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if i remember, i'll post these same plants in about 3 weeks to this thread. gettin ready to stake them up and spread em out just a hair, not too much. each plant has at least a half dozen colas in the sweetspot, and some have more like 10. been growing this strain for a few years, and i know it well though. they're just a few days into flower now.

in my experience so far....one more key element, if growing in soil, is the frequency of CEC. if you can size your containers properly so that they require a good watering every other day midway through flower, you're increasing the CEC in the soil. CEC requires water to break ionic bonds from cation holding medium (or for bottles watering is required to feed plants) and deliver the solution of ions to the roots.

when I have a plant in a soil container that will fill it in with roots just right over those 8-12 weeks of flower and can achieve the need to water every other day towards the end of flower, I saw big improvements in total harvest. Like with the vegamatrix i'm currently using, the more frequent i can feed, even if it requires less food (ppm) each watering, the more the plant will consume. it's just about not overdoing it. use common sense when feeding, and know your plants limits.

but think about it, the hydro guys get so much faster and bigger growth because everything is fluid already and plant available. some water many times a day... thus a lot of nutrient uptake. this is what happens when your container is appropriately sized, and requires more frequent watering because roots are taking in the available water MUCH faster having filled the pot with roots. one nice contained Rhizosphere, ready for water.

IMO, when plant roots sit in a pot that is too large and has not filled in with roots, and they've used up the available water that is close to the roots, CEC slows dramatically when that water is gone. yes there is moisture in the rest of the pot, but there are no roots to pull it in if there is way too much soil! the moisture wicks or moves much slower towards the plant through the medium, and water is required for CEC to occur since h2o breaks the ionic bonds. water wicking, i would bet, has much less solution of dissolved ions that fluid water. Also, this is what causes roots to sit in wet soil, as 90% probably know already.

i dunno, maybe i'm just rambling from coffee and Dr. Who bong rips, but this is just my opinion on how I grow, and not necessarily for everyone's methods. however, it works great for me...
 

sky rocket

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Thats easily attainable. He is getting 2 ounces per plant using 12 containers (3gallon).

If I was to guess he is using either a peat/coco blend or straight coco/perlite to get those results doing drain to waste. Thats the way I would do it if you want to get those yields thats were you need to be at!!

Good work my friend keep it growing
Ok cool because I have 12 girls in veg on day 12 veg I think. After 3 weeks of veg I'll put them under my 600 either a 2 or 3 gallon pot using canna coco
 

green_machine_two9er

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Ok cool because I have 12 girls in veg on day 12 veg I think. After 3 weeks of veg I'll put them under my 600 either a 2 or 3 gallon pot using canna coco
I like to top one time. o just take a clone off the top. this should help with 3-4 nice donkey dick colas each. no fluff. dont take any leaves or lolipop or any of that shit. I would take the top asap so they will have time to recover before hitting 12/12. at least a week before the flop is best IME. just acount for the stretch. dont wait any more than 4 weeks veg for 3 gallon pot. My rule of thumb. Per Gallon soil, 1 month growing time. But thats for organic soil. I think you can get away with smaller pots with a soiless medium.
 

Canna_Man

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Ok cool because I have 12 girls in veg on day 12 veg I think. After 3 weeks of veg I'll put them under my 600 either a 2 or 3 gallon pot using canna coco
Just make sure your plants are big enough and nice and healthy before bloom. My rule is that I like about a gallon per foot of plant height and another extra gallon or so for good root growth. The bigger your roots the bigger your fruits. House and Garden Roots Excel is the best root innoculant available blows anything else out of the water, use that and you will see massive root expansion (1 ml per gallon) is all you need. Run it during veg and first 2 weeks of bloom and get good benes and microbes like Great White endo bacteria based product and you set yourself up for some good yields!!
 

ShLUbY

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I like to top one time. o just take a clone off the top. this should help with 3-4 nice donkey dick colas each. no fluff. dont take any leaves or lolipop or any of that shit. I would take the top asap so they will have time to recover before hitting 12/12. at least a week before the flop is best IME. just acount for the stretch. dont wait any more than 4 weeks veg for 3 gallon pot. My rule of thumb. Per Gallon soil, 1 month growing time. But thats for organic soil. I think you can get away with smaller pots with a soiless medium.
you and i have a lot of similar techniques.
 
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