That's not a very scientific statement lol. To light up a 10x10 you first need to decide isle layout. You are going to need one. Secondly it really depends on what efficiency range you are looking in. 2 4x10 rows on either side of the room. So you are lighting up 80 sqft or 7.4 m2. At 800 PPFD which will do what you are looking for that's rounding up 6000 PPF total. So cxb3590 3500k CD @ 1.4 you would need 48 cobs and 12 hlg185h. Heatsinks and all youll be at 5000 or so. To get that equal amount in hps you will need 4 gavitas and you won't get as much yield because of coverage. 2400 watts will effectively beat 4000 watts of de. So yes startup cost for diy will be double. Only double because you need to calculate savings on AC installation costs. In the instance of air cooled you will have less heat with 6 units vs 1 gavita........ That's huge period.
Look in the leds with links thread. Plenty of options to get this project done. If op looks hard enough he can find options for around 5000.
You want me to start showing my bud pics again? Why? It's the same old bud shots I've posted over the years. Why call me out on shit? Ask around or do some searching. I'm in Miami right now for a family matter, I'll be back Monday evening. We can go pic for pic then if you like. You better have your shit up to par bro, cuz I am coming with potency test result pics too. And yes you'll see yield shots. Please next time don't call me out and put me on the spot like that. Again Monday evening if it's ok with the op to do this in his thread. Flight lands around 9pm so I should be home around 10:30.
I'm not calling you out bro.... I'm just saying that you over exaggerate costs on both sides of the fence. I mean I've never seen a 1000 watt setup for a hundred bucks . Just saying. You know good and well you come in here bashing led. Stay the fuck out if you are going to come in here bullshiting about how you can buy 4 1000 watt setups brand new for 400 bucks and how it's 12000 dollars for cob led. So you regularly hit over 1 gpw with your 1000s? Damn bro if it's true you are the man. Best I ever did bare bulb vert with quality genetics was about .8 gpw and environment was spot on. Reread your post and see how you come off as a dick plain and simple. We are here to help people learn and lying to them isn't very constructive now is it.
No my a/c ran in the neighborhood of 3500. And I'm don't garden for money I help truly sick people. Again when I'm back in California we can go pic for pic. I don't have have my computer with me. I apologize for all that. Something came up on my mother's side of the family. And the weather here is crazy hot and humid. I don't know how people live here.
I've invested more money in cobs then you have so please stop trying to hurt my feelings. But this argumentative info is good for the op to see in his/her thread. So there is no need for you to say get the fuck off this thread. Please let's play nice so the op can make the decision that fits their grow room.
You still don't acknowledge how you come off as a dick and how you came up with your numbers.
Then I have not Invested more money then you. I'm around 10 grand invested. So I guess you'll have a ton of great pics for our pic for pic off. It will be great for the op's decision. All I care about is helping the op out if I can, I don't really care about you claiming your led's are top boss. I already know they are. But the op will be able to make a great decision on his/her grow space based on the pic for pic we do. Because that's why we're here, to help.
Bro I can't do pic for pic I'm not in CA. Just letting you know that truths the truth bro. Photons count and the math and figures I posted above are science. Not bullshit just science. Let's just say there is a sun type supplier that wants to be my distributor. I'm not really interested to be honest but I have alot of sphere data at my disposal. Most hid reflectors are 70% efficient. So most 1000 mogul setups get under 1200 PPF to the canopy. There are plenty of bud pics under cobs here. GGs pics also reastyles. Capitan Morgan as well. So there dick making contest isn't necessary. I do have pics of my vert days. Not real smart to start an led company and break the law at the same time lol. Like I said heavy t is trusted he won't lie about it so check out the weekly progress report.
If one has the up front money, then yes of course. But not everyone has the to invest 12 grand or even 7 grand for that matter. Is the only reason why I mentioned hps might be the best way to light that up, but then your boy teed off on me like I'm some sort of ass hole. All am doing is trying to help the thread. If I am wrong, I am totally ok with that. I was just trying to do my part.
