I guess I took it wrong lol. To call one person a liar and then give false info yourself...... I also said yes hps is cheaper and I also suggested doing a side by side trial. It's over I'm done with it honestly.
I'm not your average Joe I guess. I don't take kindly to people smarting off. I'm from the old school I guess. Fuck money if I'm in the right and in the case of defending someone from unwarranted disrespect I am I'll gladly go straight out of business first.
I don't believe I was rude to you. I might have been a little rude to your friend on this thread. I felt he was calling me out a bit and he did say I'm a dick head or suck dick or something like that. I don't mind being called out at all. But he also mentioned I was giving misinformation. And that I would never do. Ever.
I may have over reacted . You can't buy 4x 1000 watt setup for 400 bucks. Not new anyways. Like I explained earlier on I am from the south. If you call someone a liar it is pretty serious. My bad I did come on a little strong and I apologize. I should go back in my cave now and just read like I have for years.
Hey man. Now, i hope nobody will rip my head off for posting here without being a super specialist.. heh
And I apologize as well. I am passionate about these cobs true. If you think it's because I have a company your wrong. I help more people on here with diy 50 posts to 1 about my Lights. Everyone should diy its great and satisfying. If you can't or feel unsafe with it by all means buy a unit from one of the companies here.
DE hps is 40% efficient or so mogul being 35-36%. Cxb3590 3500k CD bin is 56% at 49 watts. These numbers are all before luminarie losses. The advantage that leds enjoy is directional light. So we need to look at luminaries with total system efficiency. It's my belief that that this is the advantage that bare bulb vert has vs overhead lighting.Hey man. Now, i hope nobody will rip my head off for posting here without being a super specialist.. heh
I'm not sure i understand your question correctly, 'cause it sounds like you think the CXB's have LOWER efficiency than HPS... They are much much MORE efficient than HPS, especially if driven at low currents.
To my understanding, some of the best available HPS setups are around 40-45% efficient when everything is brand new. CXB 3590 driven @ 23watts each are about 64% efficient! ...and they will stay that efficient for years if cooled and maintained properly. @50 watts they're 54ish% efficient. Check the COB Efficiency Spreadsheets thread, very useful info there.
Actually, what I meant was if I have a 1000 watt CXB system for example, dont the LED guys usually run it only at 600 watts from the wall?Hey man. Now, i hope nobody will rip my head off for posting here without being a super specialist.. heh
I'm not sure i understand your question correctly, 'cause it sounds like you think the CXB's have LOWER efficiency than HPS... They are much much MORE efficient than HPS, especially if driven at low currents.
To my understanding, some of the best available HPS setups are around 40-45% efficient when everything is brand new. CXB 3590 driven @ 23watts each are about 64% efficient! ...and they will stay that efficient for years if cooled and maintained properly. @50 watts they're 54ish% efficient. Check the COB Efficiency Spreadsheets thread, very useful info there.
1000 is tad much. Most will run 600 to 900 watts in 5x5 depending on how much light grower thinks needed for his/her plants.