Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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Im not doing organic patta, I have house and garden soil A + B, root excelurator, drip clean, top booster.
I think my bigger plants need feeding or something the leaves are yellowing at bottom bad. I have a grow journal, not much response Id really appreciate a quick look..
 
radicaldank42

radicaldank42

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well honestly I have had better respopnses to a lower ph. my soils ph is between 5.5-6 nothing higher. plsus if youre soil is inoculated enough the plant will change the soils ph by its self. and that's when you just don't take any notice to those people what so ever.
 
cityworker415

cityworker415

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Shed&Breakfest said:
thanks for clogging up the thread with utter useless info... the fact is the thread is here... get over it... now rather then finding the info i need i have to waste my time scrolling through your endless comments of 'this stuff isn't organic' jesus fucking christ....

the amount of utter shit on this site can be soooo fucking annoying... every thread is like this too... rather then getting to the facts is just a endless tirade of people bickering about nothing at all

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i just wanna know what is a GOOD ph number to have for the run off Fox farm? im getting a bit over 6.01 but can't find any info from anyone else on here without reading the whole blog.

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and after reading 5 pages of 'this isn't organic' ive had enough of looking so if someone who knows the answer could jsut tell me that'd be great... its a shame these threads have to get ruined by trolls and people who have nothing useful to add to the convo... people just love to hear them selves talk
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Cup o lime to ffof per 5gal. Fixed my drift

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ANK

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Sincerely420 said:
Hey no prob Mystic!
i know a lot of ppl use the super soil on here too lol but I can't be arsed.
I'm getting great results from my first mix lad, so I know this second one will be a killer and even better!
The best part is that it's a water only and AACTs from time to time mix!

Make SURE you water it and let it sit for a bit so that it can cycle for a while. Like 3 weeks to a month.
This will ENSURE that you DON'T burn your seedlings!!!

Even if you end up using it just outta the bag...Water it and let it sit for a bit beforehand. This is called letting your soil "cook".
The way I see it tho.....growing this way is dope....If you focus on making a good soil for your plants....the best you can make....
And then put them into that mix....They will thrive!
Like I said, imagine the baby that gets to eat everytime it's hungry compared to the baby that's fed on a schedule...

If you take a LITTLE time to plan ahead, you'll save yourself EVERY headache in the first couple months that you can imagine haha
Good luck bro :joint:
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When people say cook does that mean you have to leave it outside to cook in the sun or can I just fill my pots, water, and stick in the corner of my grow room, ive used ffof for years all on its own straight from bag and would like to try this but only if I can do it inside my room, also is it only 1 time that you water it and then just let em dry out for weeks on end till you put your plants in or hows that work
 
Rayne

Rayne

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ANK said:
When people say cook does that mean you have to leave it outside to cook in the sun or can I just fill my pots, water, and stick in the corner of my grow room, ive used ffof for years all on its own straight from bag and would like to try this but only if I can do it inside my room, also is it only 1 time that you water it and then just let em dry out for weeks on end till you put your plants in or hows that work
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Generally speaking the term "Cook," when referring to a super soil mix, means to leave it outside with cover over it, water, and mix/turn semi-regularly.
 
KushyKari

KushyKari

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I use fox farms ocean forest.no mix. No nutes in veg except now I'm adding seaweed to everything veg and flower. Foliage and in soil. In flower I don't use many nutes either. My strain is touchy so I go easy.
Years ago I used to mix it with perlite and add bat guano, but just the soil alone has all that good ish in it. I've done the cocoa mixed my own got creative, but I stick with ffof because it makes the buds flavor sooooooo much better!! In my opinion at least
 
WeedyBlooDShoT

WeedyBlooDShoT

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What should be my unit %. With a 12qt bag of FFOF. 8qt bag of perlite and a 8qt bag of peat moss?
Thank you-- also i save the peat moss for when i start to flower right?? and if i baught a bag of EWC when and how much to use as well..
 
Nu-Be

Nu-Be

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I realize this thread is pretty dead, but it did inspire me to buy $200 worth of amendments to start making my own ROLS for both houseplants and some special plants. Thanks, RIU. :) :) :)

Two weeks after mixing it, it's cooking down to a delicious scent - perfect humus earthiness. I used regular metro tap water, after letting it sit for a couple hours.
 

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Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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Pattahabi said:
Mmmm Mmmm... Feather meal and blood meal, gotta love the slaughter house byproducts! So are those organic birds and cows? I bet not. How about cutting a cow open and let them bleed on your soil? I mean fresh is better right?

Subtool should not be allowed to tell people how to grow. I mean seriously, have you listened to this guy talk?

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Are you saying that when I buy "Organic" blood and bone meal from Espoma that the "organic" label is a lie?

Why isn't someone suing them, if that's the case? Are you telling me my organic soil mix isn't organic? I'm curious how strong your background in organic chemistry is? If it was extensive you might feel less fanatical, I think. I'm not an organic chemist, but I've slept with more than one, and that has to count for something.

If we can't believe these labels whatsoever then do we have to start our organic agriculture from scratch? Can I start an organic chicken coop from eggs that weren't marked organic? If not, when is it OK to start calling it organic? Who is the authority, you? How about a farmer out in places so rural that you @Pattahabi might not be able to imagine, if I go out there and this 80-year old man who is working a family farm that has been around for 150 years, using no pesticides, and I buy some chickens from him, are they organic or not?

At a certain point we have to make a leap of faith, don't we? Logically, epistemologically, the answer is yes.

Perhaps instead of being an absolutist on behalf of all humankind you could calmly make a note about it? It feels to me like you're shouting people down over tiny things that are not entirely their fault, responsibility, or mistake to correct.

Tim Fox said:
I am going start to finish, with ffof and dry organic fert happy frog bloom organic, one cup of lime dolomite, mix it in wheelbarrow, now only tap water start to finish
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Hi Tim! I'm doing something very similar with Black Gold Natural and Organic, it says so right there on the bag! I wonder if it is more-or-less "true" organic compared to FFOF, or if Black Gold could afford to bribe the official when FF could not? I think next time I'll use FFOF. The best results I've had so far (personal-only micro-grow) were when I used it as a base. It depends how well I do with the Black Gold.

Here's my stupid simple recipe, in case anyone cares. I might top-dress with a low-nitrogen fert during flower, depending how she looks. I think this mix will actually get me through a grow just fine.
per cubic foot of base
add the following
- 7.5 lbs. of Organic Earthworm Castings (EWC)
- 1 cup Espoma Bio-Tone Starter
- 1 cup Espoma Plant-Tone
- 1/4 cup Dolomite Lime (most stuff I use is limed already, I add this much anyway, would double it if not already buffered)
- 1/3 cup Azomite
- 8 quarts (aka 2 dry gallons or 1/3 cubic foot) chunky 'organic' Perlite.
- water with 1 gallon of tap water, after dissolving in it a half-tablespoon of Epsom Salt
(Oh no, am I no longer Organic? Heavens to Betsy!)
Mix regularly and let cook for a month, done.

I guess I probably shouldn't come to the organic forum and give organic fanatics a raft of shit, huh? I'll just lurk here again now for a while.

One Love.
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