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ShLUbY

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I like to freeze scraps too. It makes them nice and sloppy when it's thawed. Makes for easy slurping.

That OG tea is the bee's knees. Very smart move for your no tills!
your bokashi compost bin is awesome! lots of good stuff in that thing. when do you expect it to be ready to try? is this the "bokashi super soil" you were talking about?

shit... i bought the OG for my vegamatrix stuff, they recommend a weekly dose of it to promote a microbial soil. but most people are growing, generally, in an unamended soil with the vegamatrix products i think; maybe a liming agent.... i have gypsum, oyster shell flour, rock dusts, and good homes for the microbes in the rice hull and pumice drainage combo. I think the two cheese are actually in a sunshine #4 mix with EWC lol, but they're doing great! It was leftover and i didn't want to not use it

I did put a tablespoon of the OG tea into my 2cuft batch of soil that is cooking and added a little water to it. It's cooking in a 30gal fabric on a dolly with some panda over the top.

after reading what you posted about the lower leaves yesterday, I thinned out a lot of lower fans on the inside of those cheese plants, and also spread the main arms out just a little bit more. i'm hoping the extra airflow will reduce my chances at another PM outbreak, and I'm hoping when i topdress some insect frass that'll help keep the PM down for good.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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your bokashi compost bin is awesome! lots of good stuff in that thing. when do you expect it to be ready to try? is this the "bokashi super soil" you were talking about?

shit... i bought the OG for my vegamatrix stuff, they recommend a weekly dose of it to promote a microbial soil. but most people are growing, generally, in an unamended soil with the vegamatrix products i think; maybe a liming agent.... i have gypsum, oyster shell flour, rock dusts, and good homes for the microbes in the rice hull and pumice drainage combo. I think the two cheese are actually in a sunshine #4 mix with EWC lol, but they're doing great! It was leftover and i didn't want to not use it

I did put a tablespoon of the OG tea into my 2cuft batch of soil that is cooking and added a little water to it. It's cooking in a 30gal fabric on a dolly with some panda over the top.

after reading what you posted about the lower leaves yesterday, I thinned out a lot of lower fans on the inside of those cheese plants, and also spread the main arms out just a little bit more. i'm hoping the extra airflow will reduce my chances at another PM outbreak, and I'm hoping when i topdress some insect frass that'll help keep the PM down for good.
Yes it's the bokashi super soil. What's in the trash can now is what's left over from when I dumped the bokashi onto the driveway. I used 10 gal of it already and that soil mix has been aging.The rest I used today after I noticed it was getting stinky from too much moistire.

Those cheeses are gonna be sick dude! I've always felt even a little trim is beneficial. And especially when PM is an issue. Any leaves that overlap and lay on each other can build up condensation from transpiration and bam,...PM outbreak.
Insect frass is the right idea to initiate SAR but you should already have it because you got crab shell in the mix.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I'm not to pleased with these seedlings atm. Not sure why they're drooping or the cots are yellowing. PH is good and I haven't feed them.

Roots were ok but not what I'd like. I transplanted them into the bokashi mix and used 1gal fabric pots. They should go go go now.20151115_130047.jpg
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I also wanted to add perlite or more rice hulls to the mix for drainage but I'm curious as to how this mix will perform. Just by the texture I can tell right away that it's able to hold lots of water so my watering will have to be guaged with a digital moisture meter until they get bigger.
Also want to make my own 30 gal fabric pots. Ordering them is too expensive for what they are.
 

ShLUbY

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I also wanted to add perlite or more rice hulls to the mix for drainage but I'm curious as to how this mix will perform. Just by the texture I can tell right away that it's able to hold lots of water so my watering will have to be guaged with a digital moisture meter until they get bigger.
Also want to make my own 30 gal fabric pots. Ordering them is too expensive for what they are.
if you decide to buy one, get the geopots. they're quality for sure.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I was thinking about just 2. I prefer to grow monsters that yield #'s. I hate all that extra watering and always get root bound durring flower, so huge fabrics is really the best I think. Easy to top dress or mulch and watering is a breeze.

I found these the other day outside the Aldi store here in town. I think they would be awesome to put the 30gal fabrics on. They just need a little bit of support underneath to hold up the middle. But I could miter some 2x4 and build a cross frame.1447630381490.jpg1447630444372.jpg but they do fit perfectly on my carts.
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ShLUbY

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I was thinking about just 2. I prefer to grow monsters that yield #'s. I hate all that extra watering and always get root bound durring flower, so huge fabrics is really the best I think. Easy to top dress or mulch and watering is a breeze.

I found these the other day outside the Aldi store here in town. I think they would be awesome to put the 30gal fabrics on. They just need a little bit of support underneath to hold up the middle. But I could miter some 2x4 and build a cross frame.View attachment 3543626View attachment 3543628 but they do fit perfectly on my carts.
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Perfect! nice score man.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I've been looking at this autoflower alot lately. I definitely have a K deficiency. Now the leafs edges are yellowing and slight yellowing in between veins. Flower production is definitely retarded and growth is very scrawny. This shit always happens with autos. You can't fucking feed them,.... So I dont, .... and bam, fucking retard plants that don't produce. Looks like this one gonna get mulched after all. I don't even want it around anymore, it disgusts me everytime I look at it. I came very very close to punting it into the wall, but I walked out.
Smh... every fucking time...
 

Vnsmkr

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I've been looking at this autoflower alot lately. I definitely have a K deficiency. Now the leafs edges are yellowing and slight yellowing in between veins. Flower production is definitely retarded and growth is very scrawny. This shit always happens with autos. You can't fucking feed them,.... So I dont, .... and bam, fucking retard plants that don't produce. Looks like this one gonna get mulched after all. I don't even want it around anymore, it disgusts me everytime I look at it. I came very very close to punting it into the wall, but I walked out.
Smh... every fucking time...
Yeah hell gotta give every seed a chance hahaha i hear ya though. I have had some successful autos, lowryder2, auto silver haze from green label seeds, & dinafem critical+ 2.0. All the rest sucked but f it they were free

But I dont let them get to the pt you are talking about...if it looks weak for too long i fuckin yank it, yanked 1 yday
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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Yeah hell gotta give every seed a chance hahaha i hear ya though. I have had some successful autos, lowryder2, auto silver haze from green label seeds, & dinafem critical+ 2.0. All the rest sucked but f it they were free

But I dont let them get to the pt you are talking about...if it looks weak for too long i fuckin yank it, yanked 1 yday
I just don't understand it. They grow super fast for me in veg, but when bloom comes they never perform and I always pull them. I've never finished even 1. I don't know why I even waste my time, effort and energy on a proven failure.
I'm so afraid to overfeed and stunt them. Then when I do feed it (the last time was AN conni at 1000ppm, and the run off 3 days later was 370ppm. That's a huge drop. Why the fuck do i have a K deficiency? AN connisour is high in K. And I gave it bud ignitor, more p and k.
I absolutely hate autoflowers now. I'm flushing all my auto seeds. Never again!
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I just don't understand it. They grow super fast for me in veg, but when bloom comes they never perform and I always pull them. I've never finished even 1. I don't know why I even waste my time, effort and energy on a proven failure.
I'm so afraid to overfeed and stunt them. Then when I do feed it (the last time was AN conni at 1000ppm, and the run off 3 days later was 370ppm. That's a huge drop. Why the fuck do i have a K deficiency? AN connisour is high in K. And I gave it bud ignitor, more p and k.
I absolutely hate autoflowers now. I'm flushing all my auto seeds. Never again!
I have a hard enough time yanking anything let alone a cannabis plant. I decided to gift it. I called up my buddy hand he came to get her. Gave him at least 50 auto beans too. I've never seen anyone so happy. I hope he has better luck than I do.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I'm not to pleased with these seedlings atm. Not sure why they're drooping or the cots are yellowing. PH is good and I haven't feed them.

Roots were ok but not what I'd like. I transplanted them into the bokashi mix and used 1gal fabric pots. They should go go go now.View attachment 3543458
***Just a note on the transplants**
Didn't seem to bother anyone. Everyone is "praying" as of this morning. There is a noticeable gain in height and a healthy color is already starting to return to the seedlings. I think this bokashi mix is going to perform how I planned it, because I was digging through the swimming pool of it, and I see that there must have been some cantaloupe seeds that survived the fermentation. They have sprouted in the pool deep within the soil. They all have very branchy (fish bone) roots, so that's good because it tells me my mix has high 02 levels and non are burn. If the mix was too "hot" they wouldn't have survived past the germination.
Time will tell, but it looks promising already buy the looks of the seedlings.
 

Grandpa GreenJeans

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I am planning ahead here and I think I want to remove the tomatoes from the HID cab. Eventually I will have to drop the hours down to 12/12 and the tomatoes won't do well at all. I'm gonna have to clone the tomatoes now because they have been exposed to HID lighting and won't perform if they go LED. And that's the plan, led tomatoes.
Out of the two that I have, I can take 5 cuts total. Gonna root them in a bubble cloner with clone nutrient solution.
Afterwards once they root, I think they can share a 20gallon pot, I'll just have to prune the shit out of them. 2 of the 5 were nice size and the others were only 3"long. Their not big but should take, mates are really easy to clone. A cup of water would work too. Lol1447689752648.jpg1447690535818.jpg
 
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