NRA and the Republicans that support it doomed?

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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In a strange alignment this week, both the NY Times, which ran a FRONT page editorial, (only the 2nd time in 100 years) and the NY Daily News, were on the same page, both calling for more stringent gun control measures, and the Daily News actually went further than that bastion of the left, calling the NRA's president LaPierre a "terrorist" The News then threw into the fire the statement that the Republican candidates for president were all pathetic twats because of all their "I'll say a prayer" responses to the tragedy in California.


NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Front page of the New York Daily News for December 3, 2015 about mass shooting in San Bernardino, California - GOD ISN'T FIXING THIS

Polls show that as it stands today that a larger portion of the population of the country, favor more restrictions on obtaining and owning guns, at least by terrorists, and 74% of NRA members feel the same way also.(Wow)
Who would have thought that a terrorist attack in the US would lead for a cry to ban certain types of weapons and strengthen gun control laws?

Maybe those poor souls that were executed by deranged individuals over just the last few years, didn't die in vane.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Gun violence in America has been decreasing over the last 20 years. Why dont they report that?

Oh yeah, it is an inconvenient fact that conflicts with their crying...
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Using national tragedy to push for restrictions on constitutional rights is tacky to say the least. California is one of the most oppressive states regarding 2A rights. The callous response from the left could cost them the Whitehouse in 2016.
 
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ChesusRice

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Lord Kanti said:
Using national tragedy to push for restrictions on constitutional rights is tacky to say the least. California is one of the most oppressive states regarding 2A rights. The callous response from the left could cost them the Whitehouse in 2016.
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What California laws were broken in obtaining the guns and ammo?
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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NLXSK1 said:
Gun violence in America has been decreasing over the last 20 years. Why dont they report that?

Oh yeah, it is an inconvenient fact that conflicts with their crying...
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There has been a shooting with multiple causalities every month since Obama has been in office. He has 3 made news conferences (total) since taking office, one for Bin Laden and 1 each for Sandy Hook and San Bernardino. What's that about? Who has caused more death to Americans. Terrorist from abroad, or home grown individuals that should have never been near a weapon, but purchased all theirs legally.
Oh, and yea, I do cry for the victims, and spit on NRA stickers every time I walk by one.
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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NLXSK1 said:
Gun violence in America has been decreasing over the last 20 years. Why dont they report that?

Oh yeah, it is an inconvenient fact that conflicts with their crying...
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you will need to show proff of your claim that gun violence is decreasing, otherwise its just a statement with no merit
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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ChesusRice said:
What California laws were broken in obtaining the guns and ammo?
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Why sell AR15/Bushmasters .223 with extended magazines to deer hunters? I say, you want to own that type of weapon to play games with, hike on a $3000 requirement for the weapons registration. Call it a "Terrorist Tax". All monies collected will go to the US Terrorism Task Force to help stop deaths in America, whether it be, home grown psychopaths or the most recent threat,Daesh.
 
see4

see4

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Also, true statement that gun violence has decreased in the last 20 years.

Also a true statement that per capita, the United States is not #1 in mass murders in the world, there are several other European countries that have higher mass murders, per capita.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Jimdamick said:
Why sell AR15/Bushmasters .223 with extended magazines to deer hunters? I say, you want to own that type of weapon to play games with, hike on a $3000 requirement for the weapons registration. Call it a "Terrorist Tax". All monies collected will go to the US Terrorism Task Force to help stop deaths in America, whether it be, home grown psychopaths or the most recent threat,Daesh.
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You CAN'T legally purchase, import, or manufacture STANDARD capacity round magazines in California.

How many times is this invalid argument going to be made?

If someone wants to dump lead they will find a way to make, buy, or smuggle in 30 round mags, drums, double drums, or a fucking belt fed rifle. If they ABSOLUTELY CANNOT get a fun for some miraculous reason then they will make bombs, drive cars, busses, planes, derail trains....

The problem is what's pulling the the trigger, not what the trigger is attached to.
 
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NoDrama

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Jimdamick said:
Why sell AR15/Bushmasters .223 with extended magazines to deer hunters? I say, you want to own that type of weapon to play games with, hike on a $3000 requirement for the weapons registration. Call it a "Terrorist Tax". All monies collected will go to the US Terrorism Task Force to help stop deaths in America, whether it be, home grown psychopaths or the most recent threat,Daesh.
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Since weapons registration in the USA doesn't happen, it makes your idea worthless.

Why do liberals know so few actual gun laws?
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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NoDrama said:
Since weapons registration in the USA doesn't happen, it makes your idea worthless.

Why do liberals know so few actual gun laws?
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I know that in the State of Connecticut, ALL firearms must be registered with the local police, but only handguns are licensed. I did not make myself clear, and what I meant was that there should be a special tax on certain firearms, ones that are military knock offs. Better yet, do what was done to the AK 47 knockoffs, ban them all together. What's the difference, besides the caliber?
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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NLXSK1 said:
Gun violence in America has been decreasing over the last 20 years. Why dont they report that?

Oh yeah, it is an inconvenient fact that conflicts with their crying...
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How about mass murders (4 or more killed) using firearms in the last 20 years? Has that gone down? Answer me that, Chicken Little?
 
MuyLocoNC

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Jimdamick said:
I know that in the State of Connecticut, ALL firearms must be registered with the local police, but only handguns are licensed. I did not make myself clear, and what I meant was that there should be a special tax on certain firearms, ones that are military knock offs. Better yet, do what was done to the AK 47 knockoffs, ban them all together. What's the difference, besides the caliber?
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Why would we ban firearms because they look "tactical" or resemble an AK 47, but are no deadlier than other semi-automatics that don't look scary?

Also, you can legally purchase a genuine semi-automatic AK 47 today on the secondary market and knockoffs are perfectly legal to buy and abound at gun stores that I visit.
 
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Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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see4 said:
Also, true statement that gun violence has decreased in the last 20 years.

Also a true statement that per capita, the United States is not #1 in mass murders in the world, there are several other European countries that have higher mass murders, per capita.
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Surprise me and tell me what EU country, just 1, that has a higher MASS murder rate than the US? France? Sweden? Please don't even think of going there, because I will have to put a check mark by your name in my book.
 
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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
The option to do nothing and just leave everything the same is off the table. Either we change it or the government will

And I'll just be here with my popcorn
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A whopping card carrying, gun totlng 74% of NRA members think so too..just spoke to one this morning and suggested 'smart' gun owner only access..the answer: yes!

The 2A does not mean you get to have a missile silo in your backyard.

If you don't compromise you will be made to..which means you get to help decide 'the rules' or they get decided for you..which do you prefer?

Bernie 2016!
 
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NoDrama

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schuylaar said:
We need to limit gun use to owner only..smart guns.
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Why? Were all of these mass shootings done with stolen guns? Or were they legally obtained and used by the owner?
Besides, smart guns don't limit their use to the owner only, they limit their use to the person wearing the watch. Anyone can wear the watch= anyone can use the smart gun=fail.
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
Why? Were all of these mass shootings done with stolen guns? Or were they legally obtained and used by the owner?
Besides, smart guns don't limit their use to the owner only, they limit their use to the person wearing the watch. Anyone can wear the watch= anyone can use the smart gun=fail.
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It's a watch..you keep it on.

And where've you been?
 
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NoDrama

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Corso312 said:
More people are being shot, The EMT response time and better ER treatment just saves more lives.. Don't confuse advances in medicine as less violence.
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out of the 33,000 people killed by guns, 21,000 were SUICIDES!!!
Gun Suicides are usually very successful.
Don't confuse gun deaths as = murder when the great majority isn't.
How many were killed by police officers? How many were defensive use of guns? How many were accidental?
When you get down to it, murder by firearm is a minor statistic considering car crashes account for far more deaths. You have a much greater chance of being struck by lightning than of ever encountering a gun wielding maniac on a mass killing spree. The second amendment is absolute, just as the first is.

Would you think it unconstitutional to put a muzzle on everyone who enters a theater to ensure none of them can yell fire?
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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MuyLocoNC said:
Why would we ban firearms because the look "tactical" or resemble an AK 47, but are no deadlier than other semi-automatics that don't look scary?

Also, you can legally purchase a genuine semi-automatic AK 47 today on the secondary market and knockoffs are perfectly legal to buy and abound at gun stores that I visit.
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Well, I'm wrong again, and you are right (to an extent) MuyLocoNC They are illegal in CT,NY,NJ,MA, and California, but not the rest of the primitive states in the Union. I really thought that it was a national ban on that fucking useless pos (can take a beating, and keep on ticking though), but I should have known that the NRA would never allow that. Ever fire one? It's just noted for it's tight groups at 150 yrds (lmfao) but is even better at 50' with a herd of sheep for targets.
 
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