you always say you are leaving a conversation but never really dot I am moving on I already know this convo is like talking to a brick wall.
Lol......so true.you always say you are leaving a conversation but never really do
fandom? LOL i guess were fans of the genetics,that why i f2ed mine and most f2 theirs. but fans of key or m4k no fucking way! "like talking to a brickwall!" , yes a brickwall of ignorance...What you are saying is that the seeds this "breeder" makes are not bred to the point where they should be, if they were you wouldn't be using loser plants to attempt to propagate the lines and pray for a miracle. The seeds you pay 130$+ for should be at least worked to the point where there is some stability not just wild phenotype variation and packs full of loser genetics. Whatever tho you guys keep argueing your point I am moving on I already know this convo is like talking to a brick wall. You are just too blinded by your fandom to see the reality of how many people think these "breeders" are crap. Good luck I wish you guys nothing but the best of luck really.
I have no fandom. A lot of time stabilized crosses do not offer what one is looking for. Haze was a major polyhybrid. Also produced some of the best smoke ever according to most anyone who has smoked a great phenotype. Took huge searching though. Still does today. Haze is shit though, right?What you are saying is that the seeds this "breeder" makes are not bred to the point where they should be, if they were you wouldn't be using loser plants to attempt to propagate the lines and pray for a miracle. The seeds you pay 130$+ for should be at least worked to the point where there is some stability not just wild phenotype variation and packs full of loser genetics. Whatever tho you guys keep argueing your point I am moving on I already know this convo is like talking to a brick wall. You are just too blinded by your fandom to see the reality of how many people think these "breeders" are crap. Good luck I wish you guys nothing but the best of luck really.
Out of 12 seeds I got 10 females. Strain was daybreaker, could be favorable conditions not sure.So I missed diagnosed my males. Only have one. Now I have 4 females 1 male. I had same ratios with my daybreaker so either joe is good at producing daughters or its my conditions. I would like to know other people's ratios?
10 females to 2 males. Dam sounds like some fire son.Out of 12 seeds I got 10 females. Strain was daybreaker, could be favorable conditions not sure.
Not sure,I never did a full clone run under the regular hps,well I have done one 1000watter a plant,with 3 plants...that gave me close to 4#hows the yeild on those de compared to a normal 1k?
Breeding entirely depends on goals, starting genes, and purpose. I personally have no interest in ibl lines unless it is a straight landrace derivative. Why forfeit f1 vigor and production in hybrid crosses of modern genes? The only purpose of this is for people that can't clone for one reason or another or for mass production where cloning and what not cuts into cost effectiveness. S1 to S6 should fill that gap for those people. F4 is about all that interests me as far as line breeding. Give me an F1 all day long and polys are just fine cuz variety is exactly what I am after. I don't want to grow what everyone else is and I sure as hell don't want the breeder deciding what they want me to see out of the line for me. I hate boring ibl lines. The only stability I am interested in is will it grow good indoors and not go herm, stay in constant veg, autoflower, or grow like a wild unworked land race line. Too much snob opinion on breeding methods imo. I mean look what intense inbreeding has done to a lot lines like dj's and people wonder why anything from that lines yield and vigor suck these days (bogs gear, rezs chemdog and sd ibl finished product is the same shit too...inbreeding depression sucks). If this line of thought begins to be more pervasive in the canna industry we will end up like the canine industry with a bunch of inbred pos dogs that have incredibly high occurences of heriditary causes of death and suck to further breed with.What you are saying is that the seeds this "breeder" makes are not bred to the point where they should be, if they were you wouldn't be using loser plants to attempt to propagate the lines and pray for a miracle. The seeds you pay 130$+ for should be at least worked to the point where there is some stability not just wild phenotype variation and packs full of loser genetics. Whatever tho you guys keep argueing your point I am moving on I already know this convo is like talking to a brick wall. You are just too blinded by your fandom to see the reality of how many people think these "breeders" are crap. Good luck I wish you guys nothing but the best of luck really.
I was mostly complaining about the lack of quality I have experienced from GGG, if you bothered to read my post you would have gotten that. For 130$ a pack you should find winners in each pack or else its totally not worth the investment. From what I have seen from GGG I have never once been impressed. Maybe I just didn't get their best offerings but I have gotten better seeds in bags of weed. I have since moved on from these guys , I really just wanted to get some really good tasting og or chemdawg but these aren't the right guys for that.Breeding entirely depends on goals, starting genes, and purpose. I personally have no interest in ibl lines unless it is a straight landrace derivative. Why forfeit f1 vigor and production in hybrid crosses of modern genes? The only purpose of this is for people that can't clone for one reason or another or for mass production where cloning and what not cuts into cost effectiveness. S1 to S6 should fill that gap for those people. F4 is about all that interests me as far as line breeding. Give me an F1 all day long and polys are just fine cuz variety is exactly what I am after. I don't want to grow what everyone else is and I sure as hell don't want the breeder deciding what they want me to see out of the line for me. I hate boring ibl lines. The only stability I am interested in is will it grow good indoors and not go herm, stay in constant veg, autoflower, or grow like a wild unworked land race line. Too much snob opinion on breeding methods imo. I mean look what intense inbreeding has done to a lot lines like dj's and people wonder why anything from that lines yield and vigor suck these days (bogs gear, rezs chemdog and sd ibl finished product is the same shit too...inbreeding depression sucks). If this line of thought begins to be more pervasive in the canna industry we will end up like the canine industry with a bunch of inbred pos dogs that have incredibly high occurences of heriditary causes of death and suck to further breed with.