Bernie Sanders & wife have a pattern of steering publicly donated Campaign Cash to family & friends

OddBall1st

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ITs the system we have created. Or old people have created. I have only got to vote 4 time in my life for president. 2 times my candidate was elected 2 times not. Our ENTIERE ecomonmy is now a dept system. And what system am i championing again. Oh your talking about the constititution. No i dont believe in it. Its old and needs updating. Its a huge issue imo. Lets use a set of rules from the 1700s. Good job.



I see, so then your answer is yes, she is property. As is your daughter. No I wouldnt charge my daughter for the work. Id make her do it. Even if i had to teach her how. Nor would i make my wife do dishes. We would do them together. However if i needed her to come to where I work, and do work for me, then I would proly PAY her.

I don`t want that greedy kinda man with no love running my Country. Yes, my daughter is mine, I can point and say that, even though the mailman has similar features.

Sounds like Bernie has no room for forgiveness and not willing to make sacrifices,....Not my kinda guy and can`t be labeled a man, only a male.
 

m4s73r

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Ive said this before, you all act like theres some realistic other choice.
I can find 5 times the crap on Hillarity.
Or 15 times the cramp on Trumpt
Bush? really?
Carson? Wait is he even running still?
Cruz? That dude is a sociopath. No bullshit. Dude has no emotion at all. He would kill us all and not even blink. Gives me the creeps.

So who does that leave yet. Somebody's going to get voted in. Of the options, Sanders is the best one imo.
 

OddBall1st

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I guess my point is, what we have been doing isnt working. And since most of the candidates what to keep everything just the way it is, or in republicans case, make it worse for everyone thats not a millionaire, im going to go with guy that wants to change it all. Ill go with the guy that says "fuck big banks and the super rich not paying thier fair share" and then dont take any money from them. Now if he said that then took a bunch of money from them, id proly say fuck that. But thats not the case.

He`s taking it from us instead, win or lose. I see no difference.
 

OddBall1st

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Ive said this before, you all act like theres some realistic other choice.
I can find 5 times the crap on Hillarity.
Or 15 times the cramp on Trumpt
Bush? really?
Carson? Wait is he even running still?
Cruz? That dude is a sociopath. No bullshit. Dude has no emotion at all. He would kill us all and not even blink. Gives me the creeps.

So who does that leave yet. Somebody's going to get voted in. Of the options, Sanders is the best one imo.

Trump has been into politics about six month,...Begin. It will be an interesting read.
 

m4s73r

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No, I'm not talking about the Constitution.

I was saying that Bernie has stated he's against "big banks", yet he voted to help the biggest one.

He also claims to be "the peaceful candidate" and voted multiple times to fund the Military Industrial complex.

I'm talking about cognitive dissonance. It is rampant.
Well sure, vote yes, or watch the great depression happen all over again.
As did everyone during that time. Nothing surprising or evil there.

Its like you think that every choice theyve ever made had to be the right one or they are bad. Dude, people make mistakes. All we can do is make the best choice with the information we have at the time.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm sure he would compare it to rape and slavery

I love you brother.
Who's morals though? Biblical? In which you're supposed to love your brother yet seem to have a hard time with this concept.

The left has already figured this out and doesn't need a book to guide them.

The right uses this book to guide themselves yet are the worst offender of its 'rules'..

...be not your brothers keeper comes to mind sister

Both the "left" and the "right" routinely ignore that advice.
 

OddBall1st

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If you think that then you dont know much about trump.

Which Elected office has Trump held ? Yes he paid into politics, but it`s not the same ballgame when you are Elected into political office. You can`t say what he will or will not do, but Trump can.
 

spandy

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Who's morals though? Biblical? In which you're supposed to love your brother yet seem to have a hard time with this concept.

The left has already figured this out and doesn't need a book to guide them.

The right uses this book to guide themselves yet are the worst offender of its 'rules'..

Brotherly love can be tough love. We regularly help people within our church with their financial needs, but we certainly do not just write them a blank check. Handouts do not teach anyone anything.

Your side of the fence promotes taking from the haves to give to the have nots simply because they dont have. Probably why 50% of this country is now on the dole.
 

Fogdog

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You are right. We got Bernie Sanders stealing hundreds of thousands or millions and enriching his friends and family. On the other hand we got hillary clinton taking millions of dollars or tens of millions of dollars in foreign bribes and doling them out to her friends and family...

They are both crooks and you are fine with it...
So, has anything come to light that is illegal? Not that I know of.

And, I'm talking about Sanders anyway. Clinton isn't on my radar, so blather away about how corrupt she is, I don't care, or at least won't unless Sanders bows out.

Remember, Sanders has been in office for decades. If you look at the reports -- 10 years old -- his wife was paid about $40,000 for two years worth of work. A couple of his children too. I didn't see anything corrupt or untoward going on. But you will. Give me specifics, cite them and I'll be glad to talk about it. At this time, you and Ben are only regurgitating right wing propaganda. Show where anything illegal or marginally legal took place and I'll be glad to take a look at it. Right now, you are not very well informed and there isn't much for us to discuss.

As for corruption or the appearance of such, my goodness, you have a high standard for Sanders and a very low standard for your right wing politicians.

You and your right wing nuts want your opposition to immolate themselves if they aren't perfect -- convenient. Meanwhile, republicans under a republican administration looted this country for 8 years, cut taxes, raised spending, borrowed like there was no tomorrow and sent the money, billions of dollars off the books, to friends and cronies that worked for companies like Halliburton and Blackwater. But that's OK. Paying a spouse for their work on the other hand -- if its somebody you don't like -- is a capital offense.

Dumb dumb dumb
 

NLXSK1

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So, has anything come to light that is illegal? Not that I know of.

And, I'm talking about Sanders anyway. Clinton isn't on my radar, so blather away about how corrupt she is, I don't care, or at least won't unless Sanders bows out.

Remember, Sanders has been in office for decades. If you look at the reports -- 10 years old -- his wife was paid about $40,000 for two years worth of work. A couple of his children too. I didn't see anything corrupt or untoward going on. But you will. Give me specifics, cite them and I'll be glad to talk about it. At this time, you and Ben are only regurgitating right wing propaganda. Show where anything illegal or marginally legal took place and I'll be glad to take a look at it. Right now, you are not very well informed and there isn't much for us to discuss.

As for corruption or the appearance of such, my goodness, you have a high standard for Sanders and a very low standard for your right wing politicians.

You and your right wing nuts want your opposition to immolate themselves if they aren't perfect -- convenient. Meanwhile, republicans under a republican administration looted this country for 8 years, cut taxes, raised spending, borrowed like there was no tomorrow and sent the money, billions of dollars off the books, to friends and cronies that worked for companies like Halliburton and Blackwater. But that's OK. Paying a spouse for their work on the other hand -- if its somebody you don't like -- is a capital offense.

Dumb dumb dumb
His actions do not fit his rhetoric which is what people are trying to tell you. He is perfectly happy to enrich himself, his family and his friends with cash while he talks about socialism.

He is a 2 faced liar.
 

Fogdog

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Brotherly love can be tough love. We regularly help people within our church with their financial needs, but we certainly do not just write them a blank check. Handouts do not teach anyone anything.

Your side of the fence promotes taking from the haves to give to the have nots simply because they dont have. Probably why 50% of this country is now on the dole.
meanwhile, those on your side of the fence promote giving more to those that do have.

You can't just sweep Bush era cronyism and corruption under the rug. This is how conservatives behave when given the keys to the treasury. Nothing of similar magnitude occurred under Obama. Bush gave billions to cronies and you don't say squat. But if Oregon subsidizes tuition to high school graduates for two years of Jr College, you act like the state became N. Korea.
 

Fogdog

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His actions do not fit his rhetoric which is what people are trying to tell you. He is perfectly happy to enrich himself, his family and his friends with cash while he talks about socialism.

He is a 2 faced liar.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. You've just said nothing. Citations, facts?
 

NLXSK1

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He paid his wife money which logically he was entitled to half or all of. So, he paid himself to campaign.

That is a fact.
 

Fogdog

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He paid his wife money which logically he was entitled to half or all of. So, he paid himself to campaign.

That is a fact.
Right now, you are not very well informed and there isn't much for us to discuss.

I don't want to be boring like you and start regurgitating all the shit that Conservatives have done with public or campaign money. That would be as boring as a @Rob Roy posting. So, tell me where do you see that Sanders did anything illegal or even marginally illegal. I looked and didn't see anything.
 

schuylaar

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You haven't finished your egg rolls yet either. Bernie will be disappointed.

Shouldn't we go borrow some more money from big banks so we can "take them out"?

Shouldn't we go vote to fund the military industrial complex so we can bring peace to the world?

Believing in two opposing things at once....silly girl.
Shouldn't you just STFU already?

Time to change the record..it's skipping.

or there's ignore take your pick..
 

schuylaar

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I don`t want that greedy kinda man with no love running my Country. Yes, my daughter is mine, I can point and say that, even though the mailman has similar features.

Sounds like Bernie has no room for forgiveness and not willing to make sacrifices,....Not my kinda guy and can`t be labeled a man, only a male.
Sounds like?

But it COULD..
 

schuylaar

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His actions do not fit his rhetoric which is what people are trying to tell you. He is perfectly happy to enrich himself, his family and his friends with cash while he talks about socialism.

He is a 2 faced liar.
What about his platform? What do you NOT about it..have you ever even read it?
 

londonfog

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If a Jewish person has an identification number tattooed on their skin is that an affirmation of their acceptance of the Nazis ?



Selfie as you requested....



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Are you comparing your mother and father getting you a social security to a Jewish person receiving a identification number tattooed to the skin ? Damn you are pretty hard on your parents.
Do you always resent your mother and father for making you a citizen of the United States ?
 

Rob Roy

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Well sure, vote yes, or watch the great depression happen all over again.
As did everyone during that time. Nothing surprising or evil there.

Its like you think that every choice theyve ever made had to be the right one or they are bad. Dude, people make mistakes. All we can do is make the best choice with the information we have at the time.
Please tell me what you think was the cause of the "great depression" and where you learned it.

If people are to make the best choices, shouldn't ALL the choices be made available?

If other people are going to make your choices for you, and you have no choice but to accept those choices....what have you become?
 
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