24/0 is great but...

[shorelineOG]

My Colombian black crossed with shoreline og. I call her SOUTHERN COMFORT. Available in seed or clone.

 

[shorelineOG]

Left to right. Fire alien strawberry, southern comfort, Malawi.

 

[shorelineOG]

You will see my SOUTHERN COMFORT is even more of a PURE old school sativa than the Malawi from ACE. No offense to ACE but I put out damn good work. Colorado is highly competitive. Pun intended.

 

[mr sunshine]

Looks like weed can't tell you how good or bad it's going to turn out.. have any pictures of finished product?

 

[butterbudface]

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View attachment 3590274 My Colombian black crossed with shoreline og. I call her SOUTHERN COMFORT. Available in seed or clone.View attachment 3590274

Those look like N-tox to me. Mr Sunboss will be able to give better diagnosis.

@shorelineOG listern to these guys. sunshine, diabolical, sativied and quizoking all great fucking growers dude.

 

[THCmeBro]

Seriously though, Who buys a HPS LIGHT without an exhaust fan?


Super dumb.

I did. And I regret it. I bought my light literally a day before my car failed smog and I started sinking money into that.
Luckily my light gets the room to 80 max, and I do have a box fan for circulation. And I use the sun on ametal roof to heat them during lights off. Perfectly lucky! But still, never, ever, ever skip out on fan purposely.

 

[shorelineOG]

I breed with a lot of precursors to great strains. I have males more prized than any female. I breed with chem 91, fire og, GDP, fire alien master, sour d(aj's cut) , super rare shoreline cut, Panama,and of course true Colombian black. Nothing else is worthy of breeding with. Nothing. Girl scout cookies is awesome, but the yield sucks. I put out high yielding fire because I put in high yielding fire. If my offspring is inferior to the parents I cull and discontinue project.

 

[THCmeBro]

Thats a dead chicken lol

Lmao well duh.

 

[shorelineOG]

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Those look like N-tox to me. Mr Sunboss will be able to give better diagnosis.

@shorelineOG listern to these guys. sunshine, diabolical, sativied and quizoking all great fucking growers dude.

And of these four growers, who should I listen to the most?

 

[butterbudface]

And of these four growers, who should I listen to the most?

Can't tell if you are sarcastic.

I'd go with satified seeing your into genetics.

 

[THCmeBro]

As Mary jane been around longer then anyone of us lol , we do out best to mimic mother nature so ?? With that said where on Earth is it 24 hrs all the time sunlight ? cause if we are wanting to duplicate mother nature then 24 hr lighting is not NORMAL .

Hrs leading up to darkness ,, plays a very crucial role for all plants
when the sun sets, the angle of the light hitting the earth's atmosphere is tilted. It changes from bright daylight (white) blue spectrum (450 nm) to amber or red at sunset (650 nm) which is basically a shorter wavelength and thus carries with it more photon energy.
Which triggers cues in the plant

That is why we need more red to flower (HPS during bud) and we need more white (Metal Halide) during veg stage. We are duplicating nature indoors. Basically humans developed in a similar way as we spend the day gathering food and expending energy. At night time, like cannabis, we metabolize this food to produce the energy to make new cells and repair the damaged ones we hurt during the day. We also use the night to produce very important enzymes and proteins and we wait for the sunrise to get to work or in a plants case, to start the day again photosynthesizing.

what the plant is really doing while it is sleeping is carrying out a cyclic process known as circadian rhythm from the Latin word meaning “approximately a day”. To take it one step further, all cells require metabolic energy in the form of what is called ATP or NADH. This energy is produced throughout the day and is the result of many biochemical processes, not just one. We all seem to concentrate on photosynthesis because we know it occurs during the daytime and we can understand that. Photosynthesis is the process of breaking down metabolic energy by using light energy (Produced during the day) to break apart water which generates O2, protons and electrons. Oxygen becomes the bus driver that transports all aerobic respiration and it is used to transport the electrons which in turn is used in the productions of those energy rich molecules known as ATP and NADH we talked about earlier.


So when all of this mixes together in photosynthesis, the Calvin cycle ( light) fixates or concentrates on CO2 to make what is called 3-Carbon sugars during this light cycle. Later during the darkness or “night cycle”, this 3-Carbon sugars are converted to 6-Carbon sugars such as glucose and fructose. Now the point should be clear and obvious. We need both the daylight for photosynthesis to occur and generate 3-Carbon sugars but we also need the darkness or night to finish the job and create 6-Carbon sugars to make glucose and fructose that is used to make cellular carbon or the bulk of ATP and NADH during aerobic respiration during the dark cycle. Does this make sense now?

God I thought I was gonna have to cover some of that like the wavelength that lets you flower indoor on a 14/10.

Thanks for the throwback to the good old days of biology. One of the few classes I always saw a point in. Unlike English. When the fuck will I ever need to diagram a sentence in real life? I like my run ons and other grammatical errors. It's how I speak, so unless you say it to my face mid convo, idgamfs.

 

[shorelineOG]

Looks like weed can't tell you how good or bad it's going to turn out.. have any pictures of finished product?

Yeah. A few pages back.

 

[THCmeBro]

I am a outdoor grower and that's bullshit,
Show me one rookie grower who can get pounds. It ain't that easy dude. I was lucky to get 2-3 oz per plant my first year.

If my investor comes through, watch me. It's easy to get 3+ lbs. It's a lot harder to make sure that 3lbs has good oil content and good density/structure/calyx to leaf ratios.

 

[THCmeBro]

If my investor comes through, watch me. It's easy to get 3+ lbs. It's a lot harder to make sure that 3lbs has good oil content and good density/structure/calyx to leaf ratios.

Just remembered....
One of my old favorite threads was the 500 gallon smart pot grow, not on riu, completed by a rookie. They suffered tons of rookie problems, but still yielded a lot more that 2-3 oz per plant. Pretty sure they were all well above 3lb each. And I have friends that grow in 50-200 gallon smart pots yearly and yeild 3+ lbs a plant in bad years.

 

[ryan1918]

if the lights are off, the plant isn't photosynthesizing aka growing.

also, closer node spacing, shorter veg times, easier to keep constant temps and RH% too with lights always on.

a chiller is almost required for dwc for consistently good results

your crazy just because the lights are off doesn't mean it's not growing, it actually does a lot growing when the lights are off

 

[rkymtnman]

your crazy just because the lights are off doesn't mean it's not growing, it actually does a lot growing when the lights are off

if i'm crazy, then you are dumb. it's not growing. a plant can not grow without light. google photosynthesis. it's actually stretching to it's last known light source. do some research.

 

[Diabolical666]

Dude what???? My wife would fucking loose shit if i killed that plant......... Shouldn't i just let the 2 clones off the 2 mother plants let me know whats up? I mean thats why we do this right?

I posted this issue in post #99. I know this isnt the best for my plants ...but i clone my clones, I have no mothers bc I dont have the space in veg to keep 15 mother plants. Ive been cloning a few of my strains like this for 4 yrs and are getting only 2 of them are trying to flower in veg...my golden goat and durban poison. I could possibly try to have a tissue culture done on them and try to see if thatbrings them back to their normal state. But its a crap shoot. Most likely being closer to a fail. Making seeds from this plant or buying new seeds of this strain is the best option to start over. Or you can say...its time to move on to other strains that are just as good. I know each strain takes time to figure out if its going to be a keeper..like a year? My significant other is happy just smoking the goat, just like in your situation. In my situation...Im going to replace the durban poison with Quinn-n-tonic 70/30 sativa. I have had this strain for a year now and its a beaut in every sense. I will be holding onto the golden goat till I can replace it, or have my friend attempt a plant tissue culture on it to see what happens.
edit: also I just picked up Girl scout poison (og kush x durban poison x durban poison)

 

[rkymtnman]

keep your plants in the dark for 48 hours and let me know how much they grow, ok?

shit, i'm gonna save a lot on my electric bill if i don't need lights

 

[Diabolical666]

keep your plants in the dark for 48 hours and let me know how much they grow, ok?

shit, i'm gonna save a lot on my electric bill if i don't need lights

they do stretch tho looking for light in pitch dark...all the magic happens at night in the flower room also
sry edit (wicked wake n bake this am): but they need the light energy stored from the day to grow at night

 

[rkymtnman]

they do stretch tho looking for light in pitch dark...all the magic happens at night in the flower room also
sry edit (wicked wake n bake this am): but they need the light energy stored from the day to grow at night

exactly why 24/0 is great for veg. all growth no stretch. the first few weeks of12/12 is the stretch and then they concentrate energy on bud development and stop stretching.