The Dawg Father's DIY Vero29 960 Watt 5x5 Scrogg

The Dawg

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Looks pretty good, your PH is a bit high for hydroponics , you want it between 5.5 and 6.0
Thanks Yoda. However Your Remark About My pH Is Way Off And Is Based On Book Taught Information. I've Did Grows where I Didn't Adjust The The pH At All And Had No Problems. Then I've Had Grows Where I Had Problems At 5.5. In Short I've Found A Sweet Spot At 6.0-6.2 For The Genetics I Run :hump:
 

Yodaweed

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Thanks Yoda. However Your Remark About My pH Is Way Off And Is Based On Book Taught Information. I've Did Grows where I Didn't Adjust The The pH At All And Had No Problems. Then I've Had Grows Where I Had Problems At 5.5. In Short I've Found A Sweet Spot At 6.0-6.2 For The Genetics I Run :hump:
That's what's up, got those strains dialed in sounds like, what happened to our water farm thread? I got some good pictures of my current water farm plant but no where to post them :)
 

The Dawg

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That's what's up, got those strains dialed in sounds like, what happened to our water farm thread? I got some good pictures of my current water farm plant but no where to post them :)
Brother Yoda Go Ahead And Post In My Thread If You Want. I Still love My Waterfarms However You Cant Leave Them for Very Long Or They Will Run Dry. However With These Sterilite Res I Can Leave For 5 Days And No Worries :weed:
 

The Dawg

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Week 2 Day 5 Of Flower

Well I Went Ahead And Informed Scotty To Take Her To Warp Drive :weed: I'm Giving Her All She Got Captain :hump:LMAO Yepp I Turn The Knob As Far As I Could Driving My Bars At 320 Watts Each. Holy Shit These Things Run HOT. When At 750 Watts I Had To Lower My Ambient Temp By 10 Degrees And When I Went To Warp Drive I Had To Lower It Another 5. My House Thermostat Is Now Set At 60 Degrees. In This Tent I Average 27 Zips Under 800 Watts Of Leds Which Is About .95 GPW. In Order For Me To Justify Using Cobs In The Summer I Will Have To Do Much Better Than .95 To Justify The A/C Bill :peace:

 

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mc130p

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Week 2 Day 5 Of Flower

Well I Went Ahead And Informed Scotty To Take Her To Warp Drive :weed: I'm Giving Her All She Got Captain :hump:LMAO Yepp I Turn The Knob As Far As I Could Driving My Bars At 320 Watts Each. Holy Shit These Things Run HOT. When At 750 Watts I Had To Lower My Ambient Temp By 10 Degrees And When I Went To Warp Drive I Had To Lower It Another 5. My House Thermostat Is Now Set At 60 Degrees. In This Tent I Average 27 Zips Under 800 Watts Of Leds Which Is About .95 GPW. In Order For Me To Justify Using Cobs In The Summer I Will Have To Do Much Better Than .95 To Justify The A/C Bill :peace:

you could remove some heat sources from the tent by putting the drivers outside of it:weed:
 

The Dawg

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you could remove some heat sources from the tent by putting the drivers outside of it:weed:
My Drivers Are Running Around 95 Degrees And Their About 3 Feet Above My Thermometer But Pulling Them Out Would Reduce Some Of The Heat But I Dought It Will Make That Much Difference.

Now On My Next Build I Will Run Remote Drivers Cause I'm Building A 320 Watt Passive 5000K And I Plan On Putting 2 In A 3 X 5 Tent :bigjoint:


 
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mc130p

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My Drivers Are Running Around 95 Degrees And Their About 3 Feet Above My Thermometer But Pulling Them Out Would Reduce Some Of The Heat But I Dought It Will Make That Much Difference.

Now On My Next Build I Will Run Remote Drivers Cause I'm Building A 320 Watt Passive 5000K And I Plan On Putting 2 In A 3 X 5 Tent :bigjoint:


yeah not much, so about 50W of heat generation from the drivers, that's if they're 95% efficient at 1000W in from the wall. so a light bulb worth of heat, hah. but if they're 90% or less, i'd do it. it made a big difference in my little tent, but you have a lot more space :)
 

The Dawg

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My Drivers Are 92% Efficient And They Are Up Next To My Fan And Filter Which I Had To Turn My Max Fan Pro Up To Medium From Low Also. Funny You Mention The Cmh Which Is What I Usually Use To Add Heat In The Winter.

Now Don't Get Me Wrong I'm Not Bitching Too Much As I'm Really Surprised That My Cobs Run That Much Hotter Than My Panels. Rearranging My Grow Room And Taking Out My 3 X 5 And My 2.5 x 2.5 And Creating More Room For Passive Air Movement Will Do A Lot To Reduce Summer Heat Problems. :eyesmoke:

Enjoy The Lovely Sounds Of K-BILLY :peace:

 
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ttystikk

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Week 2 Day 5 Of Flower

Well I Went Ahead And Informed Scotty To Take Her To Warp Drive :weed: I'm Giving Her All She Got Captain :hump:LMAO Yepp I Turn The Knob As Far As I Could Driving My Bars At 320 Watts Each. Holy Shit These Things Run HOT. When At 750 Watts I Had To Lower My Ambient Temp By 10 Degrees And When I Went To Warp Drive I Had To Lower It Another 5. My House Thermostat Is Now Set At 60 Degrees. In This Tent I Average 27 Zips Under 800 Watts Of Leds Which Is About .95 GPW. In Order For Me To Justify Using Cobs In The Summer I Will Have To Do Much Better Than .95 To Justify The A/C Bill :peace:

The downside of the budget high power build is heat. AC is necessary if you're in a sealed space and supplementing co2, but if not perhaps you can ventilate directly from the top of the tent?

This is the first COB build where I've seen someone mention their lights are getting hot enough to adversely affect the grow climate.

With 5400W to deal with, I am basically treating mine like an HID install in terms of required cooling capacity. If they run colder, great! If not, I'm covered.

 

The Dawg

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The downside of the budget high power build is heat. AC is necessary if you're in a sealed space and supplementing co2, but if not perhaps you can ventilate directly from the top of the tent?

This is the first COB build where I've seen someone mention their lights are getting hot enough to adversely affect the grow climate.

With 5400W to deal with, I am basically treating mine like an HID install in terms of required cooling capacity. If they run colder, great! If not, I'm covered.

Really Calling My Light's A Budget Build. Like They Are Inferior To Cree's I Believe Robincnn Did A Comparison to Where The Vero Ran At Lower Current Performed Within A Few % Points Of The Cree. Its Just Like Saying Ford Is Superior To Chevy. It Really Comes Down To On What The Grower Perfers And His Grow Philosophy.

Now As Far A My Heat Is Concerned I Pay Attention To All Details All The Time. I Control my Ambient Which Controls My Grow Room Environment. Most Growers Wouldn't Bat An Eye When Temps Are In The Upper 80's. I Prefer Mine Not To Get Above 82
 
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