Needing help with my clones, having struggles.

[Cereall]

Hello all and hopefully this is the right place to post.

Been growing legally in MI for 6+ years, last 2 years have just been popping seeds and having great luck. Have a few strains I really like and trying to take clones and having issues. Plants are super healthy in veg and having no issues, they are still under 18/6 vegging and I am wanting to flower ASAP but need some clones first.
Anyways, what i've been doing and hopefully someone can help, I am currently trying 3 different methods and struggling....

1- Using 2x2 rockwool cubes I have one of the clear plastic lids and like a 64 place tray for the rockwool. I am taking roughly 12 cuttings at a time. I soak the rockwool about 2 mins in 6.7 pH tap water at about 140ppm. I spray the plants twice a day with water and the dome always seems to hold moisture and I re-water the rockwool every 5-7 days or whenever they are feeling somewhat dry. I remove the lid for around 30 mins a day when I'm doing maintenance in the room. Sitting off to the side of a metal halide veg room getting 18/6. Room is 80*F and 60% humidity.

2- Have a homemade ez cloner and have a large plastic dome over the plants, again spraying twice a day and stays humid, take the lid off for 30 mins and give fresh air. I replace the water every 3 days maintaining 6.7pH. Plants don't root but they don't get slimy. Slowly the plants all die and get mushy around the neoprene discs which hold them, but it takes about 14 days. Water stays 70* and room is 70*F. Plants are under white leds that I used to use for vegging and are on 24hrs

3- Have a bubbleponics kinda setup also, 4 air stones in a 5 gal bucket. No dome but I spray the plants twice a day and they hold their vigor. Again, just don't root and die off around the neoprene discs which aren't too tight or anything, just slowly get soft and plant dies from there. Room temp is 70* water is 70* and plants under the same white leds 24hrs


Trying to give as much info as possible, really need a hand here and don't know if RO water would help or if i'm over/under spraying with water. I don't use any rooting hormone and plants go right into a cup of water after cutting from their mothers.

 

[blowingupjake]

It seems to me that you are spraying too much.

When I am rooting cuttings I spray the dome and keep water in the tray for the first week. After the 7 day period most have rooted, so, I allow the cutting tray to dry out over the next day. Usually by then the rest have rooted as well.

Too much humidity is not going to force the cutting to root. Back off, forget about em for a few days and I bet you have a better success rate.

Good luck!

Jake

 

[Mason Jar 92705]

Simple. Use soil-less like Pro-Mix and wet it. Take a clump in your hand and squeeze so just a little bit of water drips out of your handful. You don't want it too soggy and wet. Use Dixie cups, poke a hole in the soil and place cutting in, then in dome and leave it be. I crack seeds in rapid rooters but nothing works better for me w/ cuttings rooting in soil-less mix. Rooting in rockwool is just a pain in the ass for me, personaly. Soil-less is more forgiving in my opinion.

 

[Cereall]

Thanks guys,

Giving both these methods a try so hopefully something works out for me. My bubbler seems to look the best and I'm spraying that less. My rockwools are starting to get light colored leaves and turn grayish and curl/shrivel on a few cuttings so that's a fall.

 

[Hamuk]

Some think it nuts but I use Honey to keep my cut "moist" then put em in a cup of damp Perlite

 

[GroErr]

Go back to 2) but drop the changing water every 3 days, domes, sprays and whatever. Fill it with tap water, run the pump 24/7 and change it every 2 weeks when you're changing up a batch of rooted clones. Simple is better, if you don't want to do the aero cloning then use @Mason Jar 92705 method, it's the only other method I use other than aero.

 

[a senile fungus]

My clones do the best when i ignore them.

They seem to root the best when they are on the verge of drying out, so i keep the medium barely moist, and when the medium starts to dry out, they bust those roots out.

I love my aero cloner and my promix, great reaults with both.

I got bugs from some peat pucks, be wary.

Also, some guys swear that using poolshock in the aero res will stop the stems from mushing up...

 

[shorelineOG]

I know they cost more but the root riot plugs give me better roots and faster than anything. I use clonex and a humidity dome. I was scraping the stem and cutting at an angle, but found I get roots a few days faster with a straight cut. Also a warm ambient temperature and trimming the top set of leaves. And letting the plug dry a little between mistings.

 

[shorelineOG]

Remove all but the top set of leaves.

 

[a senile fungus]

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Diff stroke, diff folks

 

[Dan can grow]

Hello all and hopefully this is the right place to post.

Been growing legally in MI for 6+ years, last 2 years have just been popping seeds and having great luck. Have a few strains I really like and trying to take clones and having issues. Plants are super healthy in veg and having no issues, they are still under 18/6 vegging and I am wanting to flower ASAP but need some clones first.
Anyways, what i've been doing and hopefully someone can help, I am currently trying 3 different methods and struggling....

1- Using 2x2 rockwool cubes I have one of the clear plastic lids and like a 64 place tray for the rockwool. I am taking roughly 12 cuttings at a time. I soak the rockwool about 2 mins in 6.7 pH tap water at about 140ppm. I spray the plants twice a day with water and the dome always seems to hold moisture and I re-water the rockwool every 5-7 days or whenever they are feeling somewhat dry. I remove the lid for around 30 mins a day when I'm doing maintenance in the room. Sitting off to the side of a metal halide veg room getting 18/6. Room is 80*F and 60% humidity.

2- Have a homemade ez cloner and have a large plastic dome over the plants, again spraying twice a day and stays humid, take the lid off for 30 mins and give fresh air. I replace the water every 3 days maintaining 6.7pH. Plants don't root but they don't get slimy. Slowly the plants all die and get mushy around the neoprene discs which hold them, but it takes about 14 days. Water stays 70* and room is 70*F. Plants are under white leds that I used to use for vegging and are on 24hrs

3- Have a bubbleponics kinda setup also, 4 air stones in a 5 gal bucket. No dome but I spray the plants twice a day and they hold their vigor. Again, just don't root and die off around the neoprene discs which aren't too tight or anything, just slowly get soft and plant dies from there. Room temp is 70* water is 70* and plants under the same white leds 24hrs


Trying to give as much info as possible, really need a hand here and don't know if RO water would help or if i'm over/under spraying with water. I don't use any rooting hormone and plants go right into a cup of water after cutting from their mothers.

I've had all three problems and still can't figure it out. Last summer I was sprouting clones in the outdoor garden now none will take. It gets frustrating. I'm now trying mason jars method. Seems to be keeping them alive. Been a week and I hope they root.

 

[Justinbudahgrower]

Thanks guys,

Giving both these methods a try so hopefully something works out for me. My bubbler seems to look the best and I'm spraying that less. My rockwools are starting to get light colored leaves and turn grayish and curl/shrivel on a few cuttings so that's a fall.

Everyone has there ways but what I recommend is using a propagation tray and humidity dome what I do is add a half of a lemon juice to a gallon of water with 2 tbs of kln rooting concentrate soak rock wool 4 a few mins then take a cup of water with a teaspoon of kln and no lemon juice cut at a fourth five degree angle within a half inch of a branch internode just leave a few leaves on top instantly score the bottom half inch then dip for ten seconds in the cup of water insert into ur rock wool after u take desired number put in tray mist all and put one dome mist twice a day and water with kln water whenever dry I have had 100 percent success using this method although I would highly recommend using root riot plugs cut em the same dip in either cloning solution or gel and mist and water the same much easier and no need for lemon juice should take two weeks without heating mat one week with a heat mat if u have heat mat with thermostat 82 is the magic number although non thermostat mat is fine if u have any questions plz ask

 

[Justinbudahgrower]

Oh and one more tip is u can do same method but make ur own rooting concentrate take a bag of willow tree bark and and make a tea out of it using enough water to cover bark works great and all organic and free

 

[legallyflying]

I have found that Rockwool holds too much water. We use the peat plugs. We never mist. Never. A heating pad will cut rooting time in half.