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[ttystikk]

I agree. Flat income tax is just plain stupid. But I think if someone were to come up with a reasonable plan for Flat Sales Tax, there may be something to it.

I wonder if a Progressive Sales Tax is something that would work. A $20,000 car has a 5% tax, while a $90,000 car has a 10% tax, and a $200,000 car has a 30% tax. A loaf of bread has no tax, while a $90 can of caviar has a 5% tax.

Why not? First ten thousand of a car is tax free. Next ten thou is at 3%. The next ten large is 3 + 3 = 6%. From 40-50k, it's 9%, and so on. Puts the tax right where it belongs. Buying an expensive electric that's good for society and the environment? Have a tax credit, just like today!

 

[ttystikk]

The progressive sales tax is an interesting.


Case in point: The ill informed

Or phasing out certain deductions like those on home mortgages above a certain amount of home value, starting at roughly twice the median national home value.

Using national numbers helps level real estate markets, so you don't have so many exclusive enclaves.

 

[NLXSK1]

Or phasing out certain deductions like those on home mortgages above a certain amount of home value, starting at roughly twice the median national home value.

Using national numbers helps level real estate markets, so you don't have so many exclusive enclaves.

If taxes are so awesome why shouldnt everyone pay them??

 

[UncleBuck]

The right wing economic policy never promised to give you an i-phone for free. That was the democrats.

it was actaully george w bush who expanded ronald reagan's lifeline program to include cellphones. so you are wrong again, as always.

 

[Fogdog]

If taxes are so awesome why shouldnt everyone pay them??

everyone does pay taxes.

 

[Padawanbater2]

If taxes are so awesome why shouldnt everyone pay them??

If you tax poor people on the little money they do have, they will require government assistance which will effectively negate the tax

 

[ttystikk]

If you tax poor people on the little money they do have, they will require government assistance which will effectively negate the tax

Unless you cut the social programs, too!

 

[Grandpapy]

Tuition is not free. What do you think the high California taxes go to?

Clearly you don't know anything about it.

Compare to what I have to pay for my son today. UCSD

Costs (2014 - 15):

• Tuition and Fees: $13,427 (in-state); $36,305 (out-of-state)
• Books: $1,509 (why so much?)
• Room and Board: $12,254
• Other Expenses: $4,064
• Total Cost: $31,254 (in-state); $54,132 (out-of-state)

One would think education would be streamlined a bit better, Utilizing technology, one might think it would get cheaper.

But now I can see the professors plight.

 

[NLXSK1]

If you tax poor people on the little money they do have, they will require government assistance which will effectively negate the tax

Poverty is not a disability....

 

[ttystikk]

Compare to what I have to pay for my son today. UCSD

Costs (2014 - 15):

• Tuition and Fees: $13,427 (in-state); $36,305 (out-of-state)
• Books: $1,509 (why so much?)
• Room and Board: $12,254
• Other Expenses: $4,064
• Total Cost: $31,254 (in-state); $54,132 (out-of-state)

One would think education would be streamlined a bit better, Utilizing technology, one might think it would get cheaper.

But now I can see the professors plight.

What's sickening about those numbers is how small of a percentage of all that actually goes to the avowed purpose of the institution.

For example, Why does a university need a chancellor and why does this glorified administrative flack get a salary one thin dime higher than that of a professor?

 

[Padawanbater2]

Poverty is not a disability....

Do you understand why social safety net programs exist?

 

[NLXSK1]

Do you understand why social safety net programs exist?

I am not advocating the elimination of social safety programs. I am advocating the elimination of them on the federal level and reorganization to the state or county level.

And yes, many of them can be handled by local churches and charities. They are the people who actually know who is down and out and who is skating along on a welfare check. No national welfare program can obtain that kind of information.

 

[NLXSK1]

Let me ask you this another way.

The government has waged a war on poverty for decades. They have launched a war on drugs and there is a war on terrorsim.

After all the money spent and decades wasted we are no closer to 'winning' any of these things than when the wars were declared.

When do we ask if the suggested solution is the wrong one?

 

[Grandpapy]

If I remember right, when we were paid in line with the cost of living.......

 

[UncleBuck]

Let me ask you this another way.

The government has waged a war on poverty for decades. They have launched a war on drugs and there is a war on terrorsim.

After all the money spent and decades wasted we are no closer to 'winning' any of these things than when the wars were declared.

When do we ask if the suggested solution is the wrong one?

if we stopped the war on poverty tonight, the poverty rate would double tomorrow.

you would have less pools to scrub if that happened too.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Let me ask you this another way.

The government has waged a war on poverty for decades. They have launched a war on drugs and there is a war on terrorsim.

After all the money spent and decades wasted we are no closer to 'winning' any of these things than when the wars were declared.

When do we ask if the suggested solution is the wrong one?

False equivalence

The war on drugs and the war on terror have both failed. The war on poverty brought ~15 million Americans out of poverty (40-24 million between 1964-1970

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Let me ask you this another way.

The government has waged a war on poverty for decades. They have launched a war on drugs and there is a war on terrorsim.

After all the money spent and decades wasted we are no closer to 'winning' any of these things than when the wars were declared.

When do we ask if the suggested solution is the wrong one?

Exactly what happens when the government starts using powers not expressly granted to it by the Constitution. Pick any progressive boondoggle and they always cost more than their detractors claim they will at the time of their implementation. When the government fucks around with things because of the "feels" of liberal mongoloids, it will usually exacerbate the problem.

 

[ChesusRice]

I am not advocating the elimination of social safety programs. I am advocating the elimination of them on the federal level and reorganization to the state or county level.

And yes, many of them can be handled by local churches and charities. They are the people who actually know who is down and out and who is skating along on a welfare check. No national welfare program can obtain that kind of information.

United Church of Christ here has a soup kitchen. Attending the church service before the meal is not mandatory. But you don't get to the head of the line unless you attend and they tend to run out of the tasty food for those in the back of the line

 

[MuyLocoNC]

United Church of Christ here has a soup kitchen. Attending the church service before the meal is not mandatory. But you don't get to the head of the line unless you attend and they tend to run out of the tasty food for those in the back of the line

Sucks to be a godless heathen. Guess if I had ever needed a handout, I would have been screwed.

I am advocating the complete elimination of all the unconstitutional social safety boondoggles. Where the fuck did you people ever get the idea that some people shouldn't starve to death and even more ludicrous, that the government should prevent it?

Cash, gas or ass...no one rides for free.

 

[londonfog]

Sucks to be a godless heathen. Guess if I had ever needed a handout, I would have been screwed.

I am advocating the complete elimination of all the unconstitutional social safety boondoggles. Where the fuck did you people ever get the idea that some people shouldn't starve to death and even more ludicrous, that the government should prevent it?

Cash, gas or ass...no one rides for free.

what about children ?