2 Week old seedling, stunted, deformed, and just not good at all.

[Skittles McP]

The strain is Kabrales by Blimburn. The plant is just runty and deformed. I was unsure of the problem but now I have started to notice some slight yellowing of the leaves and a couple small brown spots. I think it might be a Phosphorus deficiency but it seems way to early in the plants life cycle for that to be happening. These pics were taken just today. I am feeding/watering at 1/5 strength every 2 - 3 days using General Organics. Feed, Feed, Water, repeat. PH is 5.8 -5.9. Humidity it hovering around 40%. Temps running approx 77 degrees. Medium is 50/50 coco/perlite. There is a layer of perlite on top. Plant is in a 3 gallon smart pot.

If you look at the leaves, they are small and deformed. They kind of hook under a little. Anyone know what my problem might be? I feel like the leaves should look much bigger and healthier at 2 weeks old.

 

[Sugarleafloni]

How old is it?

 

[Sugarleafloni]

Lol nevermind. Just medicated duh lol

 

[alaskachic]

Skittles look like a bit of heat stress. Pic kinda blurry. Are leaves crinkled? What sort of light?

 

[polishpollack]

pH for soil is more like 6.4. You might not have to pH your nutrients, but you shouldn't be feeding so much to such a small plant. Over feeding is the most common mistake people make. If there is nutrients in that soil, you don't have to feed for a while, maybe a long time depending on the content.

 

[alaskachic]

Omg hey this is di creepy shit. I have to say something everyone is asleep at my house. People are saying Trump always rasies up his right arm up like Hitler! Omg & he actually does that! That's fuckin creepy man. Weirdo fucks

 

[Skittles McP]

While I appreciate everyone's responses, I swear people on this site don't read anything before posting. I'm not in soil, my medium is 50/50 coco/perlite. So I need to feed, my medium is inert. And I don't believe I'm over feeding. I'm using 1/5 strength on a 16 day old seedling.

Skittles look like a bit of heat stress. Pic kinda blurry. Are leaves crinkled? What sort of light?

I'm using 4 bulb T5's right now and temps hit 80 max in the cabinet. The leaves aren't crinkled, they hook under just slightly on the bigger leaves.

 

[Skittles McP]

Plant looking slightly better if not the same, some visible growth though. Still waiting on any other suggestions.

 

[alaskachic]

So slight improvement? Did you back the light up?

 

[alaskachic]

My light 18+ inch away from seedlings. You got some sort of fan oscillating or.. ... Get those stalks strong & thick

 

[kitten49]

Mine did something like that when I accidentally over watered them I let them dry some and they started growing more after about 2/3 weeks of staying small i also didn't have my light close enough

 

[Skittles McP]

So update time. Things are not improving, possibly getting worse. The plant continues to grow, albeit slowly, but the new growth is already starting to just very slightly yellow at the edges, and the older leaves are yellowing more and the brown spots have gotten just slightly worse/bigger. There is even the beginning of brown spots on the edge of the new growth.

I have been pouring over guides, webpages, and every thread on here trying to pinpoint the problem. My best guess is maybe a magnesium deficiency, but I'm hesitant to add more cal/mag to my feeding this early on in the plants life cycle. It would make sense though since I'm in coco and it traditionally has problems with cal/mag.

Also, my temps have admittedly been getting a little high. They're always normal when I check but my device shows the record high for the day and it has gotten up to 84 degrees. The edges of the leaves feel a little crispy i think. It's hard to tell when the leaves are so small and there's no other leaves for comparison. My lights are T5's and they're about 6" above the plant.


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[AbeFroman]

I grow in the same medium and start with T5s. I would never give it straight water. Don't let it dry out and keep it constantly watered with nutrients. Are you in RO or tap? Your plant looks slightly hungry to me. I always add small doses of cal mag even at that age even with my tap.

The new growth doesn't look that bad and that's what is a good gauge to tell if you have improved the situation.. I'm confidenr if you keep giving it a proper feeding strength nutrients mix with cal mag, allow run off during your watering, and are sure your PH is correct it will be fine.

 

[MeJuana]

Looks pretty good dun stress.. In hydro I never gave nutes for first 3 weeks when from seed. Just a little cal mag in my ro water

 

[SPLFreak808]

So update time. Things are not improving, possibly getting worse. The plant continues to grow, albeit slowly, but the new growth is already starting to just very slightly yellow at the edges, and the older leaves are yellowing more and the brown spots have gotten just slightly worse/bigger. There is even the beginning of brown spots on the edge of the new growth.

I have been pouring over guides, webpages, and every thread on here trying to pinpoint the problem. My best guess is maybe a magnesium deficiency, but I'm hesitant to add more cal/mag to my feeding this early on in the plants life cycle. It would make sense though since I'm in coco and it traditionally has problems with cal/mag.

Also, my temps have admittedly been getting a little high. They're always normal when I check but my device shows the record high for the day and it has gotten up to 84 degrees. The edges of the leaves feel a little crispy i think. It's hard to tell when the leaves are so small and there's no other leaves for comparison. My lights are T5's and they're about 6" above the plant.
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Have you used a t5 that low over seedlings before? Did that seed give you issues with germination?

 

[Skittles McP]

I grow in the same medium and start with T5s. I would never give it straight water. Don't let it dry out and keep it constantly watered with nutrients. Are you in RO or tap? Your plant looks slightly hungry to me. I always add small doses of cal mag even at that age even with my tap.

The new growth doesn't look that bad and that's what is a good gauge to tell if you have improved the situation.. I'm confidenr if you keep giving it a proper feeding strength nutrients mix with cal mag, allow run off during your watering, and are sure your PH is correct it will be fine.

I'm using distilled water. I have already added cal/mag along with the other nutes.

 

[Skittles McP]

Have you used a t5 that low over seedlings before? Did that seed give you issues with germination?

Never used T5's before. It puts off literally no heat so I don't think that's an issue. I'm trying to get the heat in the cabinet down overall though.

 

[SPLFreak808]

Never used T5's before. It puts off literally no heat so I don't think that's an issue. I'm trying to get the heat in the cabinet down overall though.

First thing i would have tried was backing those tubes away. Don't think seedlings can even use all that light yet.

 

[jackblaster]

That plant seems plain dried out in my opinion, not thriving. As you said, the medium is inert, but it seems that no nutes are getting absorbed or processed. So if the medium drys out too quickly, yes. I am not familiar with growing in your medium, I cant make sense of it, I know that people on here do it though I believe there is perhaps more moisture delivery involved, in general, in those set ups. I quickly skimmed but you seem to be saying that you're doing everything perfectly, so if that's true it could just be the plant, something to compare it to would be nice right?

Honestly man, and I grow in soils, so everyone can please feel free to call bullshit or whatever but I would see if you could start mixing some vermiculite down into your mix with your fingers or a pencil or something, short of disturbing what growth you may have there. Ive mixed coco in some soil mixes before but it cant be relied upon to retain any moisture, so you need to so something to make sure those roots have access to water, at least more than you seem to be watering it.

If water runs across your tongue once every few days, it might keep you alive, but its not going to quench your thirst, and you will never thrive.

 

[AbeFroman]

I'm using distilled water. I have already added cal/mag along with the other nutes.

I would suggest upping the strength of your nutrients or checking your PH meter. I can tell by the color of your stem that the plant is hungry or deficient.

Are you saturating the whole pot? That medium should always be wet.

I make it a point to run a couple gallons of solution through my medium to ensure its loaded at the proper ph. It should take quite a while for a 3 gallon pot with that size plant to coming close to getting dry.