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AlphaPhase
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You failed to read the details. You must have missed the part that reads something to the effect of "the tax bracket determines how much a citizen should donate yearly, but they can use it for the programs they see fit".
As for the comment about third world countries, if you had taken a look around and opened your eyes in the past 15 years, you'd had seen that's what America is becoming.
AlphaPhase
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As for UncleBuck, I hope you're at least paid to be so stagnant with ideas and prejudice against anyone who has a different view than you have. I mean, it must be so damn exhausting, reading threads all day.. Just waiting for someone to mention anything remotely different than your opinion and views.. Repeating the same old speils daily, full of hate which causes you do resort to small penis jokes and calling people racist, or simply just calling someone an idiot.. Just because others can open their mind out of the box.. See both sides of a story.. Have civil conversation like normal functioning healthy minds of most adults.. instead of living in a one sided prison of a mind, like yourself.
Remember, if everyone had the same ideas, the world would be black and white. It's people like you that hold the world back.
Remember, if everyone had the same ideas, the world would be black and white. It's people like you that hold the world back.
You should travel more. The US is no where near a third world country. That's not even close to a true comment. And people "should"pay depending on their tax bracket. That sounds nice but people rarely do what they "should". Kind of like the usa donates less money per person to charity then any other developed nation. If left with a choice most will keep it for themselves. People can't take the time to even vote, I'm sure they won't take their time to decide where their tax money goes.
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Detroit had been gone longer the 15 years..
AlphaPhase
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You'd be surprised... We're not yet a third world country.. Because we're living on credit cards.. I've traveled to almost every state in America.. Mexico, Canada.. North America.. Like I said, open your eyes, it's happening. It doesn't happen over night, but it's happening..
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poorest-list/the-15-most-homeless-cities-in-the-world/?view=all
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poorest-list/the-15-most-homeless-cities-in-the-world/?view=all
My eyes are open and been to a few more place then north america..
AlphaPhase
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I'm not making a comparison to other countries, I'm just saying what IS happening in our country.. It's not as nice as it looks on TV. Out of 15 cities that have the most homeless in the world, America houses 5 or 6 of them.
This doesn't look like a country heading in the right direction. And we've certainly lost our super power status.
This doesn't look like a country heading in the right direction. And we've certainly lost our super power status.
AlphaPhase
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This certainly sounds familiar, no?
What makes a nation third world?
Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class — with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very largeforeign debt.
So again, if you could explain how America is not heading in the direction outlined above, that'd be cool.
What makes a nation third world?
Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class — with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very largeforeign debt.
So again, if you could explain how America is not heading in the direction outlined above, that'd be cool.
AlphaPhase
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This sums up the point of this thread..
"scientists at Princeton and Northwestern found that compared to the economic elite, average voters have a nonexistent influence on public policies. “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions, they have little or no independent influence on policy at all,” the authors conclude. In cases where the majority gets its desired policy outcome, it’s only because the elite happen to want the same result. Regardless of whether a small minority or a large majority of American citizens support a policy, the probability of policy change is nearly the same — approximately 30%."
I'm done for a while here though, so everyone can carry on with their stagnant views and cloudy perception of our great country while slinging mud at each other when their ideas collide. I can get better substance during a 2 minute chat while paying for my groceries. Gnite
"scientists at Princeton and Northwestern found that compared to the economic elite, average voters have a nonexistent influence on public policies. “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions, they have little or no independent influence on policy at all,” the authors conclude. In cases where the majority gets its desired policy outcome, it’s only because the elite happen to want the same result. Regardless of whether a small minority or a large majority of American citizens support a policy, the probability of policy change is nearly the same — approximately 30%."
I'm done for a while here though, so everyone can carry on with their stagnant views and cloudy perception of our great country while slinging mud at each other when their ideas collide. I can get better substance during a 2 minute chat while paying for my groceries. Gnite
ChesusRice
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although your views aren't stagnant
they are refreshingly stupid
Rob Roy
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The tenth plank of the Communist manifesto called, Comrade Prohibitionist.
Rob Roy
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Except what presently exists is only what IS ALLOWED to exist.
What would solve your problem is if other alternatives were not restricted, then you would be able to make the choice which suits you while not forcing others to make choices from a false and limited set of options.
Rob Roy
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Charity does not come from the barrel of a gun.
Also you misuse the term donation in the context of your government speak.
My donation comment had nothing to do with "government speak". Just factual that Americans donate the least out of developed nations. Not sure where there is a gun barrel there?
if you go, uncle buck wins..are you going to give him what he wants?
so does that mean you are FOR gun control?
Rob Roy
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"Donations" can only come from a person on a voluntary basis or they aren't really donations, so when you attempt to claim that forcibly extracted funds are "donations" you are using government speak.
The barrel of the gun ? That becomes obvious, if you are honest. Any time government does anything, the means they use isn't based on YOU having voluntary options to participate or not. The means used is based in force, as in if you DON'T comply...their guns come out.
Hope that helps. Peace.
bluntmassa1
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A lot of our homeless choose to be homeless they have shelters but a lot choose to stay on the street plus you can't be drunk and get into the shelter but I can think of a good reason for that. But if you really want to get off the streets them people working in homeless shelters will help a lot they will give you a cell phone and foodstamps but you got to want to get your shit together.
Children under the poverty line also live a lot nicer in America than most countries unless the mother is a junky using welfare and foodstamps to get drugs but they get charged with neglect if caught and children get taken away. But we can't just house every junky nobody wants their apartment building to turned into a shooting gallery.
I talked to a lot of bums in Daytona Beach,FL all drunks and crack heads from what I seen and panhandling can't walk one block without someone asking for change and they actually make decent money more than enough to eat but drugs are more important they go to some place to eat in town for homeless people. It's very much a choice for everyone I met they all got a sob story but they are not incapable of work if they where Social Security and housing projects are an option certainly not so much in Mexico.
But children even on foodstamps and all they still have access to government food absolutely garbage but it is food. But not much you can do about it as well as public school and free lunch.
