Just A Thought...

AlphaPhase

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although your views aren't stagnant
they are refreshingly stupid
I bet your late relatives thought automobiles and going to the moon were "refreshingly stupid" as well. Whatever the hell that means haha. If you feel OK with having no say where your hard earned money goes, so be it. You sound like the type of person that, if you had a Crack head sibling, who would ask for money to fix their car, you'd give it to them, knowing it's going to buy some Crack. You're an enabler. That's cool though.
if you go, uncle buck wins..are you going to give him what he wants?
There is no losing when you're conversing with a small minded hypocrite, it's better to walk away because you'll get no where fast. I can't stand people who live in drama land, I'm above all of that, life's so much better when you converse with open minded people who aren't judgemental, who has time for bad conversation anyway? :)
 

AlphaPhase

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A lot of our homeless choose to be homeless they have shelters but a lot choose to stay on the street plus you can't be drunk and get into the shelter but I can think of a good reason for that. But if you really want to get off the streets them people working in homeless shelters will help a lot they will give you a cell phone and foodstamps but you got to want to get your shit together.

Children under the poverty line also live a lot nicer in America than most countries unless the mother is a junky using welfare and foodstamps to get drugs but they get charged with neglect if caught and children get taken away. But we can't just house every junky nobody wants their apartment building to turned into a shooting gallery.

I talked to a lot of bums in Daytona Beach,FL all drunks and crack heads from what I seen and panhandling can't walk one block without someone asking for change and they actually make decent money more than enough to eat but drugs are more important they go to some place to eat in town for homeless people. It's very much a choice for everyone I met they all got a sob story but they are not incapable of work if they where Social Security and housing projects are an option certainly not so much in Mexico.

But children even on foodstamps and all they still have access to government food absolutely garbage but it is food. But not much you can do about it as well as public school and free lunch.
You're right, alot of people in America make terrible decisions. It's a down fall of our country and sad. But, even so that our homeless and children in poverty are in better shape than other terrible countries, it doesn't change the fact that if there are so many people with this homeless mindset, who don't care, living here, it will only continue to perpetuate our downfall. It won't get better, that's a fact. It may take a long time to become a ruined country, but we are starting down that path.

There's not much difference between our modern day society and the roman empire. And the Roman Empire crumbled. We basically utilize the same tax system. Our whole government is similar. It's only a matter of time.

That's why I think we should have a say as to where and how our tax money goes and is used. Why anyone thinks that is a bad Idea is beyond me.

If you had a friend that came by every week asking for money, wouldn't you ask for what they need it for? And if it was every single week, they came by, and said it was for food, would you not just buy them food so you're certain the money is going for food?

It's like our government has a drug problem and is asking it's kids for money every week with out giving an exact reason they need it.

What is the black budget all about? If we're paying for it shouldnt we have a little clue about it?

I'm sick of it, that's one thing I know.

Obviously we need roads and police, MedicareMedicare, social security (which is bullshit it doesn't go to a escrow account).. Why am I paying my grandma's social security when she paid in 50 years ago with her own money? Should the money I put in go towards my ss account? Oh, that's right. The government thought it was OK stealing everyone's money and now it's a pyramid scheme.

Anyone that thinks I'm crazy and stupid for thinking we the people should have a say in what taxes are used for has serious mental issues.. I just didn't realize it was so many people in America that had mental issues, but that will be another factor in the decline. All of my friends think they should have a say where their tax money goes, so maybe the people that think differently should get a cat scan.
 

ChesusRice

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You're right, alot of people in America make terrible decisions. It's a down fall of our country and sad. But, even so that our homeless and children in poverty are in better shape than other terrible countries, it doesn't change the fact that if there are so many people with this homeless mindset, who don't care, living here, it will only continue to perpetuate our downfall. It won't get better, that's a fact. It may take a long time to become a ruined country, but we are starting down that path.

There's not much difference between our modern day society and the roman empire. And the Roman Empire crumbled. We basically utilize the same tax system. Our whole government is similar. It's only a matter of time.

That's why I think we should have a say as to where and how our tax money goes and is used. Why anyone thinks that is a bad Idea is beyond me.

If you had a friend that came by every week asking for money, wouldn't you ask for what they need it for? And if it was every single week, they came by, and said it was for food, would you not just buy them food so you're certain the money is going for food?

It's like our government has a drug problem and is asking it's kids for money every week with out giving an exact reason they need it.

What is the black budget all about? If we're paying for it shouldnt we have a little clue about it?

I'm sick of it, that's one thing I know.

Obviously we need roads and police, MedicareMedicare, social security (which is bullshit it doesn't go to a escrow account).. Why am I paying my grandma's social security when she paid in 50 years ago with her own money? Should the money I put in go towards my ss account? Oh, that's right. The government thought it was OK stealing everyone's money and now it's a pyramid scheme.

Anyone that thinks I'm crazy and stupid for thinking we the people should have a say in what taxes are used for has serious mental issues.. I just didn't realize it was so many people in America that had mental issues, but that will be another factor in the decline. All of my friends think they should have a say where their tax money goes, so maybe the people that think differently should get a cat scan.
We think you are crazy and stupid for a whole variety of reasons
 

757growin

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You're right, alot of people in America make terrible decisions. It's a down fall of our country and sad. But, even so that our homeless and children in poverty are in better shape than other terrible countries, it doesn't change the fact that if there are so many people with this homeless mindset, who don't care, living here, it will only continue to perpetuate our downfall. It won't get better, that's a fact. It may take a long time to become a ruined country, but we are starting down that path.

There's not much difference between our modern day society and the roman empire. And the Roman Empire crumbled. We basically utilize the same tax system. Our whole government is similar. It's only a matter of time.

That's why I think we should have a say as to where and how our tax money goes and is used. Why anyone thinks that is a bad Idea is beyond me.

If you had a friend that came by every week asking for money, wouldn't you ask for what they need it for? And if it was every single week, they came by, and said it was for food, would you not just buy them food so you're certain the money is going for food?

It's like our government has a drug problem and is asking it's kids for money every week with out giving an exact reason they need it.

What is the black budget all about? If we're paying for it shouldnt we have a little clue about it?

I'm sick of it, that's one thing I know.

Obviously we need roads and police, MedicareMedicare, social security (which is bullshit it doesn't go to a escrow account).. Why am I paying my grandma's social security when she paid in 50 years ago with her own money? Should the money I put in go towards my ss account? Oh, that's right. The government thought it was OK stealing everyone's money and now it's a pyramid scheme.

Anyone that thinks I'm crazy and stupid for thinking we the people should have a say in what taxes are used for has serious mental issues.. I just didn't realize it was so many people in America that had mental issues, but that will be another factor in the decline. All of my friends think they should have a say where their tax money goes, so maybe the people that think differently should get a cat scan.
Remember the great depression? Was there alot of homelessness then? How do we look compared to then? I think a hell of alot better. Just like anything else there is an ebb and flow of success.
 

757growin

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View attachment 3655327 Oh, and one more thing..

For the clueless liberals that don't care where your taxes go, you're the reason for war.. Since more than 50% of your tax money goes to funding the military. Let that sink in ya progressive idiots.

And yes, I'm a leftist, but I'm not an idiot and I don't need a baby sitter government using my money to line the clintons and bushes pockets. That's one thing I hate about leftists, they listen to the government and take it as fact like it came from their daddy.

News flash, they don't give a shit about you, they only want the votes from the dumbed down Americans that think the government knows best. Tell poor people they'll feed you, they'll vote for you.

Ever wonder about the generations of poor that have voted left for decades and their families still poor? That's what happens when you don't make people get up and make something of themselves.. And instead give them just enough crumbs to get by.

For the people by the people my ass ;)
Bet you loved the military after 9/11. Like 99% of America who was afraid and needed someone to protect them...
 

bluntmassa1

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View attachment 3655327 Oh, and one more thing..

For the clueless liberals that don't care where your taxes go, you're the reason for war.. Since more than 50% of your tax money goes to funding the military. Let that sink in ya progressive idiots.

And yes, I'm a leftist, but I'm not an idiot and I don't need a baby sitter government using my money to line the clintons and bushes pockets. That's one thing I hate about leftists, they listen to the government and take it as fact like it came from their daddy.

News flash, they don't give a shit about you, they only want the votes from the dumbed down Americans that think the government knows best. Tell poor people they'll feed you, they'll vote for you.

Ever wonder about the generations of poor that have voted left for decades and their families still poor? That's what happens when you don't make people get up and make something of themselves.. And instead give them just enough crumbs to get by.

For the people by the people my ass ;)
Without our military we would have been over run by Nazi's or Soviet Union communism long ago. I'm not really for war but their would have been riots if nothing was done about 9/11. So we need military plain and simple.

Also if we where to choose where tax money went how many would choose the highway department or welfare and foodstamps? The system came through for me when I broke my leg without foodstamps I would have been begging for food instead of feeding myself. Many important things but nobody is stopping you from donating extra money to NASA or welfare you can even feed the homeless if you feel like it and people will donate money to the cause.
 

AlphaPhase

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Do any of you actually read anything or just pick a few choice words from a sentence and base your conclusion of someone else's opinion?

When the hell did I say we don't need a military?

What I don't like it spending as much as we do on military and there are other places my tax money would be of better use.

Jesus, talking to yall makes my head hurt. But it makes me feel far superior, so carry on
 

AlphaPhase

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For starters, there is discretional spending and mandatory spending.

Feel free to look how how the tax money is used.
 

AlphaPhase

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I'll help you guys out a little since all of a sudden everyone thinks they had seen me write that I do not want military, food stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, roads etc.


I want all of the above. All of the above lies in the "mandatory spending" category.

You all must think that's the only place our tax money goes...... Read some articles, some budgets, get a grasp on the missing tax money, or the over spending in certain departments.. And then, and only then, come back and make a coherent post that reflects anything remotely close to what this thread is about..

Now see how all of your comments have no direction and are just theoretical assumptions of something that was never said?

Maybe this will make it easier to carry on the conversation in the proper direction.
 

bluntmassa1

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Do any of you actually read anything or just pick a few choice words from a sentence and base your conclusion of someone else's opinion?

When the hell did I say we don't need a military?

What I don't like it spending as much as we do on military and there are other places my tax money would be of better use.

Jesus, talking to yall makes my head hurt. But it makes me feel far superior, so carry on
If you had a choice you would pay very little if any to the military just so happens it costs more than you are willing to donate to remain the world superpower. If you don't want to be a world superpower you can always move. I don't like spending money on the military but I don't mind living in America Canada is not better just some things are better and they are part of NATO so militarily they might as well be America.

Just face it picking and choosing what you personally will pay for taxes will not work in America otherwise I would not pay taxes at all and neither will a lot of people I don't even claim much of my income as is. Lol
 

AlphaPhase

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If you had a choice you would pay very little if any to the military just so happens it costs more than you are willing to donate to remain the world superpower. If you don't want to be a world superpower you can always move. I don't like spending money on the military but I don't mind living in America Canada is not better just some things are better and they are part of NATO so militarily they might as well be America.

Just face it picking and choosing what you personally will pay for taxes will not work in America otherwise I would not pay taxes at all and neither will a lot of people I don't even claim much of my income as is. Lol
Ahh, thank you for a good response to the topic at hand! I see where you're coming from, and agree with some points. I personally think that we spend too much on military, we get involved in conflicts that we shouldn't. But we do need a military, but the huge amount of money that goes to our military is outrageous imo and some of that funding could easily to shifted to another program, like homeless vets, the VA, families who are truly struggling and not just using the system, environmental services, the list goes on.

If the tax plan I mentioned won't work here, possibly a voting system on how much a certain program should recieve.

Everyone can get a simple form in the mail with all services listed. Like this.

Military
A) $x billion
B) $xx billion
C) $xxx billion
D) $xxxx billion

Etc... The only thing that would change is the voters have some what of a say as to how much a program will get.
 
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bluntmassa1

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Military
A) 1 billion
B) 5 billion
C) 10 billion
D) 20 billion
.
This right here is the biggest problem 20 billion is a small fraction of $664.84 billion in 2011. Nobody wants to pay that but one good ship is a good $20 billion dollars alone let alone jets, helicopters an Apache is a few million alone.
 

AlphaPhase

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Another stupid program our taxes go to...

20million$ going to help people in Indonesia get master degrees. Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that money could be spend in America.

Another. We spent money on seeing if quails from Japan that are high on cocaine engage in risky behavior.

Millions spent on world of war craft studies.

Billions of dollars for government employees who are on administration leave, to go on vacation.

F35 fighter jet. 1 trillion $
 

AlphaPhase

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This right here is the biggest problem 20 billion is a small fraction of $664.84 billion in 2011. Nobody wants to pay that but one good ship is a good $20 billion dollars alone let alone jets, helicopters an Apache is a few million alone.
It's just an example, the numbers are just plugged in to make the example, more or less, that doesn't matter, the point is the allowing a choice

There. I fixed it.
 

AlphaPhase

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I mean if everyone is not worried about the cost of military spending, vote for Trump or Cruz. They'll spend it on war canoes, special martial arts throwing stars, war elephants. I'm sure they could raise the bar
 

ChesusRice

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Oh my!! Crazy AND stupid ?

He hasn't proposed legislation championing cannabis prohibition or shit on a floor he doesn't own has he?
Neither have I.
However I still wonder why you think adults having sex with children should be legal. And so people don't think I am putting words in your mouth answer this simple yes or no question.
Should it be legal for adults to have sex with 13 year old children?
Yes or No?
 
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