GroErr Grows...
Full of heavy flavours, can't wait to cure some!
GroErr
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I essentially do the same thing, just cut the branches into a pile and do a branch at a time once they're dry. That room stays around 60-65% RH so I just do them when I get some time, they hold well in there so no rush.
GroErr
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The house is full, pic on 4/20, pulled 2 more of the Blue Ripper's from the flower room last night. 2 left and they look like they'll be done by end of the weekend or about 10 weeks. Veg tents/cabinet are pretty well maxed out, need to finish these and get another flowering round going under the Tasty LED's this weekend 
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I wish I could afford a cob set up I was running 400 watts mh and 400 watts hps
Javadog
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Wow...I never even thought of that....No Boveda needed there. Brilliant.
...but I am betting that your ambient RH is not in the 20s typically. :0)
GroErr
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That's how I started with the 315w CMH a couple of years back. COBs weren't quite there yet but I didn't want to go hps and the cost of the 315's are in between watt-for-watt. COBs are a longer term investment but the payback is there in the long run.
GroErr
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Yeah the RH here is typically 45-50 ambient in the house but it's a double edged sword as I fight with keeping RH at manageable levels in the flower room. The exhaust from my veg cabinet blows into that room and keeps the RH higher, if it gets higher than 65% I open a vent in a tee for the incoming air going into the flower room, increase the variable controller for exhaust and it reduces RH by sucking air out of the drying room while maintaining the flower room RH. This time of year is a pain the ass, in between cold/hot so the furnace nor air conditioning are running, forces me to make constant adjustments to maintain RH at a reasonable level.
GroErr
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Two more now hung up to dry, the BR2-1 is a good size for a 2gal plant, will be head to head weight wise with the "JTR" pheno that'll come out tonight. They're about the same size but that JTR pheno has more dense buds so will likely pull more weight. That BR1-5 pheno sucks all-around, just "pot" and will go straight to the hash bin. Funny because it looked great structure-wise early on but turned out to be a dud, about the only one that will go straight into the hash bin. The rest all have some funk to them, just different levels of funk
BR1-5:
BR2-1:
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BR1-5:
BR2-1:
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ttystikk
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Nah. It only takes one good run for them to pay for themselves.
It's because of all those other reasons they're better than light bulbs.
GroErr
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Yeah, depends how you calculate and how fast you depreciate the capital investment. For me it's a hobby, not depending on them for income so selling off a couple of QP's and they're paid for, everything from there is a bonus. This first run of 3 plants with them should pull at least 1/2 lb. even with the phenos I'll run which aren't big producers.
GroErr
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Actually I train every plant normally, that newer batch is 4x 3gal's trained, taking up the same footprint as the 9x 2gal's untrained. Typically I super-crop the main and FIM once, sometimes more but there's diminishing returns if training too much so I'll be typically doing that once early and let them go from there. I find if I don't give them 2-3 weeks with no training before flipping they don't produce as well.
To the question of training slowing them down, I think it's a wash in the end. They may slow down slightly for a few days, but then explode more than make up for any slow down due to training imo.
This last round of 9x 2gal was an exception as I'm hunting for an F3 female candidate so let them go straight up from seed. I wanted to see their natural structure. Will be training the clones that will run 2 rounds out a bit to see what they can do with some training. Some respond well, some are kind of a waste of time and produce more or less the same, more colas but smaller.
That run is a good example of a small SOG with no training, in the end probably produced more than if I had run less but trained plants. Less, bigger but trained plants fits into my needs/schedule better, less work overall, typically less watering with the larger containers. In the 2gal's once they started flowering I was watering every other day which doesn't always fit into my schedule. Would work well with some form of automated watering system though.
GroErr
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That's a good way to put it, I've found if I don't give them some time between training and flowering they don't do as well. If you veg longer you can train longer and get the benefit. It's a balance you have to work out in your setup, particularly if doing perpetual with limited veg space. I trained the shit out of my outdoor's last year but they had like 10-2 weeks of veg before they started pre-flowering so it paid back.
GroErr
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So the initial grow of the female pheno hunt ends, 10 weeks with first week at 14/10. 4, maybe 5 nice phenos worth another run to see how they behave as clones, a few of them are looking good, very vibrant.
Will have to judge once they've had some cure but 4 of them I've tested so far have a lot of flavour in there. The BR2-3 pheno which is almost identical to BR2-5 is the strongest I've tried so far in flavours, heavy indica-leaning stone that lasts a couple of hours. Puffed on some BR2-5 earlier and not much different but more of head stone, still buzzing pretty good
There were originally 16, 8x BR1 seeds and 8x BR2 seeds, culled down to 13, then 4 males were culled. The BR2 seeds produced the best overall plants in smell, flavour and size. The only BR1 seed worth another run is that "JTR" pheno, BR1-4. The BR2's have a funkier smell and similar colouring. If you were to run a pack of BR2 seeds pretty sure you'd end up with at least a couple worth running again.Will pop BR2's looking for a male when I get some time to focus on that. Looking to find an F2 male like the F1 male that made these seeds and make some F3's. Have 40-50 of the original F2's plus 200+ that were just de-seeded from the BR2 F1 female, should find something there
Here's how they started and ended up in flowering:
Harvest time:
Good bunch of colas for an old 315w lamp
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Will have to judge once they've had some cure but 4 of them I've tested so far have a lot of flavour in there. The BR2-3 pheno which is almost identical to BR2-5 is the strongest I've tried so far in flavours, heavy indica-leaning stone that lasts a couple of hours. Puffed on some BR2-5 earlier and not much different but more of head stone, still buzzing pretty good
There were originally 16, 8x BR1 seeds and 8x BR2 seeds, culled down to 13, then 4 males were culled. The BR2 seeds produced the best overall plants in smell, flavour and size. The only BR1 seed worth another run is that "JTR" pheno, BR1-4. The BR2's have a funkier smell and similar colouring. If you were to run a pack of BR2 seeds pretty sure you'd end up with at least a couple worth running again.Will pop BR2's looking for a male when I get some time to focus on that. Looking to find an F2 male like the F1 male that made these seeds and make some F3's. Have 40-50 of the original F2's plus 200+ that were just de-seeded from the BR2 F1 female, should find something there
Here's how they started and ended up in flowering:
Harvest time:
Good bunch of colas for an old 315w lamp
Cheers
