Why do you newbs always grow auto's?

[racerboy71]

How am I wrong? I've never had regular bean go hermie on me ever! Like I said 70% of the fems went hermie late in flower and had seeds.

I've been growing for a long time and I usually grow well over 200 plants per cycle.

Fem went hermie, regular beans didn't..

You can NOT say that my personal experiences are wrong.

it was the wonky genetics, not the fact that they were fem, that caused them to hermie though, that's the difference..

 

[.ODanksta.]

Bullshit dude.

That's the flowering time. It will take a month before it starts to flower. 90 days at minimum.

Wrong again. That strongly depends on genetics. I have a shoreline x herijuana cross that so heavily indica it starts preflowers under 24hours and from the second set of leaves, it's not a auto.

Ok let clear this up. You have three stages of growth.

Veg.
Transition.
Flower.

Once you flip you go through about a week transition stage. But that's still considered flower.

I've grown 12/12 from start. Yeah it sucks. But but it only takes about 10 days for the transition not a month

 

[.ODanksta.]

it was the wonky genetics, not the fact that they were fem, that caused them to hermie though, that's the difference..

So all these people including myself that bought from Cali connect and got swerved are lying? My RP seeds of denver were fem, 2 out 4 would go hermie.

I'm not making this up. But I'm not saying all go hermie. My secret sauce strain was from a fem.

And from a breeders stand point fem is useless for the gene pool.
You can't breed a fem to a fem.

That's the reason some breeder release only fem "swerve" so you can't get the pollen.

 

[Trich_holmes]

swerve....haha he who's name must not be spoken.

 

[Bbcchance]

Good thread, fun read.........
But....the reason people run autos for their first grow is because they think auto means easy, then with absolutely no experience they try to grow a cannabis plant that has no time to correct any mistakes made along the way and end up with 3 grams of shit.......obviously the seeds fault right?

 

[$bkbbudz$]

guess your reading comprehension isn't up to snuff either. 6 yrs of all fem seeds for me. no herms.

i grow stable strains, not crap rushed out the door cause it's got a cute name.

I have always grown femmed seeds...no freaky freaks and certainly not any pure males ever.

 

[.ODanksta.]

5 weeks veg.
9 weeks of flower
600watts
Organic
22 ounces of nug
4 ounce of larf
14 week start to finish.

Explain to me how an auto could ever compete?

4 weeks more for 22 ounces

Or the claim 10 weeks for an auto that yields maybe an ounce two at best..

 

[$bkbbudz$]

Good thread, fun read.........
But....the reason people run autos for their first grow is because they think auto means easy, then with absolutely no experience they try to grow a cannabis plant that has no time to correct any mistakes made along the way and end up with 3 grams of shit.......obviously the seeds fault right?

 

[Bangaman]

Y'all do know they suck right? They are a horrible idea to even start with.

You can't take cuttings, they yield like shit and they use more light..

Can one of y'all share with me why you would possibly ever want to grow shit genetics?

Resistance to change is something for fools!

The same was said about female seeds and though the jury is in that their yield is based on strain genetics, and grower just as good as any, you still have stubborn folks who for some reason try and fight for the world to stay where they are comfortable. These stubborn folk no matter what proof you have will knock anything new and claim old is better. Shit, grandpa still hand writes letters and swears snail mail beats email and computers suck.

same was said when indoor growing became the thing.
Some folk will hang on to the old by the skin of their teeth. You should hear some of the ridiculous bro science behind their reasoning

Autoflower is next gen after female seeds and is just as good and here to stay get over it and stop hating. It is a smart move, no sexing, no fussing with lights, lower cost due to quicker harvest. Its like a smart phone compared to an old 2.5 pound NiCad Cellphone with 1 memory button (smart button)

 

[.ODanksta.]

Wrong. Period.

If treated with cs it can't pass it down. Please explain how a plant can pass down a chemical treatment.

You are just repeating rhetoric to.

The cannabis community is so full of myth it is unreal.

There is two way to make fem beans, one with colloidal silver and the other is to let a plant go over ripe and it will throw nanners in an effort to save itself.



No doubt there are breeders that sell FEMS that will herm. It is not due to them being fem though. It is from crappy or herm prone genetics to begin with.

A good breeder with good genetics will NOT cause herms.

I've grown a lot of fem beans. I do so for a good reason, as do others. Some people don't have the space to run a lot of plants.

Out of all the fem beans I've run I have yet to have to have any hermie on me. That is with pinhole light leaks, opening the doors at lights out, high temps and other stresses.

I research and buy from reputable breeders.

Over ripe buds should not release seeds. That's like saying my grandmother will grow a set of balls?

Pinholes and minor light leaks should not cause a plant to go hermie. I've had plenty of rooms that were not light tight and did not go hermie.

And what you are saying is if I reveg it will go hermie..

I reveg all the time and no hermies..

 

[.ODanksta.]

Yea if you're getting 70% hermie rate on FEM seeds you're doing something wrong

I think I know what I am doing

 

[Corso312]

Resistance to change is something for fools!

The same was said about female seeds and though the jury is in that their yield is based on strain genetics, and grower just as good as any, you still have stubborn folks who for some reason try and fight for the world to stay where they are comfortable. These stubborn folk no matter what proof you have will knock anything new and claim old is better. Shit, grandpa still hand writes letters and swears snail mail beats email and computers suck.

same was said when indoor growing became the thing.
Some folk will hang on to the old by the skin of their teeth. You should hear some of the ridiculous bro science behind their reasoning

Autoflower is next gen after female seeds and is just as good and here to stay get over it and stop hating. It is a smart move, no sexing, no fussing with lights, lower cost due to quicker harvest. Its like a smart phone compared to an old 2.5 pound NiCad Cellphone with 1 memory button (smart button)

Horrible analogy.

 

[.ODanksta.]

Ok let me further my point. Why is it that not one warehouse anywhere in Denver runs autos if they are so good?

Yup that's what I thought..

 

[racerboy71]

So all these people including myself that bought from Cali connect and got swerved are lying? My RP seeds of denver were fem, 2 out 4 would go hermie.

I'm not making this up. But I'm not saying all go hermie. My secret sauce strain was from a fem.

And from a breeders stand point fem is useless for the gene pool.
You can't breed a fem to a fem.

That's the reason some breeder release only fem "swerve" so you can't get the pollen.

not at all, i think you just proved my point, it was swerves wonky ass genetics, not the fact they were fems..

 

[Bangaman]

Horrible analogy.

But true. Lots of it on here. I'd tell any newbie to go for it. Heck, Ima try some autos next crop

 

[Corso312]

Ok let me further my point. Why is it that not one warehouse anywhere in Denver runs autos if they are so good?

Yup that's what I thought..

You could have said " not one warehouse on the planet"

Autos are a niche sub cultural and they are easier to grow than photos. But they are inferior and always will be. I'd go bankrupt if I had to hustle autos instead of photos.

 

[racerboy71]

Over ripe buds should not release seeds. That's like saying my grandmother will grow a set of balls?

Pinholes and minor light leaks should not cause a plant to go hermie. I've had plenty of rooms that were not light tight and did not go hermie.

And what you are saying is if I reveg it will go hermie..

I reveg all the time and no hermies..

check out Rodelization method by soma.. no, not all plants will do so, but some plants will throw a late nanner in an effort to keep the strain alive..

 

[racerboy71]

oops. forgot link..

http://www.hightimes.com/read/rodelization-somas-way-female-seeds

 

[.ODanksta.]

I don't know, yeah definitely bored. I'm a breeder getting ready to launch a seed company.
~i dont remember you ever being a breeder. Breeders have seeds and have been breeding for years. So do you mean you bred a plant like once? By accident or on purpose? My motto is no fems or autos.~to have a motto for a seed company you have to actually be a seed company producing seeds. Not just come up with a motto thats...well stolen from other REAL breeders. I don't care if they sell better. <(business stratagy lacking here if you ignore market trends) im pretty sure the breeding stock of real breeders comes from reg plants if they have that option. But from a breeders stand point (or the standpoint of not a breeder, just some guy with some plants in a basement) I can only see one reason to sell them and that's for buyers to return to buy more seeds. Great business idea, but I believe in quality.

I'm not saying they are completely trash. But I just think they are a waste of time. How many autos have you run again? And when you reply zero or less than five, read the post i just made up there again to explain to you why theyre not a waste of time.

Dank youre too easy man. You make a thread like this and your asking to get called out on your bullshit. You just called everyone whos had a good auto grow a noob. Usually once you get your foot out of your mouth with one group of people you dont just ram it back in there two days later. All i think when im reading your posts is that head into wall emoji guy.

I don't know, yeah definitely bored. I'm a breeder getting ready to launch a seed company.
~i dont remember you ever being a breeder. Breeders have seeds and have been breeding for years. So do you mean you bred a plant like once? By accident or on purpose? My motto is no fems or autos.~to have a motto for a seed company you have to actually be a seed company producing seeds. Not just come up with a motto thats...well stolen from other REAL breeders. I don't care if they sell better. <(business stratagy lacking here if you ignore market trends) im pretty sure the breeding stock of real breeders comes from reg plants if they have that option. But from a breeders stand point (or the standpoint of not a breeder, just some guy with some plants in a basement) I can only see one reason to sell them and that's for buyers to return to buy more seeds. Great business idea, but I believe in quality.

I'm not saying they are completely trash. But I just think they are a waste of time. How many autos have you run again? And when you reply zero or less than five, read the post i just made up there again to explain to you why theyre not a waste of time.

Dank youre too easy man. You make a thread like this and your asking to get called out on your bullshit. You just called everyone whos had a good auto grow a noob. Usually once you get your foot out of your mouth with one group of people you dont just ram it back in there two days later. All i think when im reading your posts is that head into wall emoji guy.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/original-dank-genetics.855120/

Your point is invalid..

I've been breeding for 8 years.
I currently have 28 strains in my growroom. I have thousands of beans from hundreds of genetics stashed away. My sister in laws dad was Lonestar the owner Texas Resin Company.

Google Odanksta first legal grow..

Ignorance is bliss

 

[$bkbbudz$]

Resistance to change is something for fools!

The same was said about female seeds and though the jury is in that their yield is based on strain genetics, and grower just as good as any, you still have stubborn folks who for some reason try and fight for the world to stay where they are comfortable. These stubborn folk no matter what proof you have will knock anything new and claim old is better. Shit, grandpa still hand writes letters and swears snail mail beats email and computers suck.

same was said when indoor growing became the thing.
Some folk will hang on to the old by the skin of their teeth. You should hear some of the ridiculous bro science behind their reasoning

Autoflower is next gen after female seeds and is just as good and here to stay get over it and stop hating. It is a smart move, no sexing, no fussing with lights, lower cost due to quicker harvest. Its like a smart phone compared to an old 2.5 pound NiCad Cellphone with 1 memory button (smart button)

While genetically altered ruderalis is a relatively new event in cultivation...cannabis ruderalis plants have existed a VERY long time. Some auto strains can be quite good if they are indica or sativa dominant. But, if the ruderalis component is dominant...the resulting genetics will be less than pleasing to most growerz...Just my humble opinion.